I am tired of people posting "Aliens do not exist" threads. We HAVE contact.

Originally posted by kindred
To the OP:

You have absolutely no proof or evidence whatsoever to backup your claim, not even a commemorative badge from the intergalactic federation of light, but why is it so important to you that people should believe in Aliens? What difference would it make?

edit on 17-8-2011 by kindred because: Update

a huge one.
State of being matters. Its all about the Hundredth monkey effect .

Originally posted by kauskau


For example: believe it or not: this is a painting of a city on another planet..and yeah i know-> it will hard to believe for many that this is not fantasy.

just read it (its free): www.galactic.no...

The exact date and time of this first contact event are in fact known as well as other evidential support. There are other witnesses and there is material evidence supporting this story, but in keeping with the contactee's solemn promise never to try to PROVE the reality of the story or the actual existence of the Iargans, for very good reason, we have chosen not to reveal it. Wendelle C.Stevens

And they always have evidence that they cannot reveal

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


There are apox. 8 or more well educated men who are selected to be among the elite..These men have had to balls to speak of the flying objects theve seen in space...These Hero astronauts have seen ufos and have far more to loose than gain by speaking of the objects being piloted around in space.

I dont doubt demons exist ...but...Do You think they need to fly ships????

Aliens are indeed Real....

Aliens Are not Demonic.....Simply Older more advanced space brothers.....Look for a new target for the religious finger pointing! Silly Silly Stuff

reply to post by kauskau


All of the "alien" depictions in ancient paintings are easily debunked if you know the history surrounding what is actually being painted. Not that Daeniken wants you to know the history, then his books wouldn't sell.


Things are different when taken into context, and "ancient alien" proponents exploit context by removing it, while shoving their interpretation down your face.

Keep thinking critically.

reply to post by romanmel


Only in your fantasy world..

reply to post by kauskau


Yes,we have contact.But you are wrong,they do not come from any planet.they are demons

Originally posted by APOCALYPSEWATCHMAN
reply to post by kauskau

 

Yes,we have contact.But you are wrong,they do not come from any planet.they are demons

We neither have evidence for contact, nor demons. So that is a pretty bold claim of faith, right there.

Originally posted by APOCALYPSEWATCHMAN
reply to post by kauskau

 

Yes,we have contact.But you are wrong,they do not come from any planet.they are demons

And how would you view ANGELS??

From the source in the OP:

"When our radar warns us of dust or material, we make the banking maneuver that you have just seen. This then presents the smallest possible surface area to the danger. Nevertheless, each particle of dust makes burn marks on the plating. For this reason we always fly in line formation. The command consists of five ships and the lead ship is always unmanned, because this one runs the greatest risk. The ships are connected by a cable, because at relative speeds radio contact is impossible. "

How does the radar work but the radio not work? This story is nothing but well thought out rubbish.

reply to post by romanmel


I don't personally believe in the theory that Aliens are demons. Subscribing to this scenario makes our entire existence completely futile & pointless, basically just one giant deception, where everything we believe to be true is nothing but a lie, including our very existence and the reality we are living in. Welcome to the matrix.

Or welcome to the demonic game of life:

If you happen to meet your demise earlier than expected, maybe you should give that tunnel of white light a wide berth or you might just end up in the Alien Greys soul recycler. But whose brave enough to go down that dark tunnel, the one that supposedly leads to hell? Can I phone a friend?

“Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself”:

reply to post by Gorman91


Gorman91- I don't believe the human race is a "freak of nature," anymore than I don't believe that ET's are a freak of nature either.

I can prove that, by looking a the diversity of the human races on our planet- Black, White, Oriental, Arab and Indian origins.

I believe that the apes on our planet are only different from one chromosome than the human race. So whats so freaky about that?

The human race has filled an ecological niche on our planet, just like birds, plants, fish, animals, microbes, etc etc.

Though sometimes I question what good has become of our ecological niche on our planet, when the human race is consumed by greed, intolerance and injustice.

So far as I know- The ET races that have visited our planet have not committed any violent acts against the human race, neither have they destroyed or hampered with any of the species of our planet Earth; save for a few involuntary anal probings. lol Therefore, the ET's that visit our planet should be considered as "peaceful."


In conclusion- If humanoids fill an ecological need on our planet Earth, who's too say that ET's on other typical Earth type planet's do not need to fill an ecological niche on there planet as well?


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Erno86

reply to post by kauskau


Let's take a critical thinking moment and present the other side of your argument.

"I'm tired of people blindly claiming that ET exists and we have contact with them, despite there being NO, NOT ONE piece of submittable evidence to confirm their wild and fantastical accusations."

One side uses logic the other uses fairytales.

Believe what you want to believe, just don't expect everyone to throw aside their logic and critical thinking abilities to enable you to live in fantasy land more comfortably.

reply to post by kauskau


You still didn't answer my question. How does believing in Aliens make things better?

reply to post by Erno86


Didn't say ETs are a freak of nature. I'd imagine they're quite naturally there like a crow or a whale, having evolved over the course of dozens of millions of years.

The various races are a testimony to our adaptability. This is because we survived an unlikely series of events that forces us to be adaptable. That sort of stuff doesn't happen very often. After all in the 4.5 billion years of life on Earth we only know of that once 10,000 year or so time period that caused us to be this way 50,000 years ago or so. That's quite low chances when applied across a cosmos that has no other interest than, more or less, "wreak our s**t."

As to the Chromosome, well you'd have to know a bit about genetics to understand. Imagine a chromosome as a gigantic sheet of ice. Some parts of this ice sheet are weak, having only been there since the last winter. Other parts of the ice sheet are unimaginably strong, having been there for thousands of years. A chromosome is very similar. Some genes are new, and change a lot. Skin color, hair style, etc etc. Other genes are ancient, and rarely change, if ever, like the fact we have 2 eyes, one tongue, etc etc. Any changes and you're liable to have a nonviable subject.

Well now that you can imagine it, imagine taking one of those chromosomes, and either ripping it in half, or smashing it into another. You can imagine the improbability of anything useful and/or viable coming out of that.

A lot of times, chromosomal mutations of fusion or splitting occur a very long time ago from genetic drift. A good example is the American and Eurasian Beaver. One has 48 chromosomes, the other has 40. Because they are very similar to the Squirrel, its likely they are an ancient species going back eons. These sort of mutations do not simply occur and go along happy-go-easy. They are mutations that usually start of as negative or useless to the species, and over a process of trial and error, become more useful. For humans, an example of this is our backbones. To which walking upright clearly was not a good mutation. But over some time, the bones aligned and the weak were killed by animals.

So again, just because we are similar to a species that's been here for millions of years, does not mean we ourselves are so easily able to be born. Again, that's why there are dozens of species of primates, but there's never been more than 2-3 hominids living at the same time, usually resulting in one exterminating the other, leaving us with ourselves. Never forget that before humans, many other hominids left Africa and tried to survive, and failed. Either by the environment, or by murder by our own hands. So not only are we not likely to evolve somewhere else out there, but those that do by miraculous chance evolve into something even somewhat similar to us in mind and/or body will have a very good chance of killing itself off.

I honestly wouldn't be so surprised if we do discover at least 2 other humanoids in this galaxy...as irradiated fossils.

Thing is, we don't fill a niche on this planet. We never have. Look at ourselves. Our feet are incompatible with even the natural terrain of the planet! We can't live in the world. We have to change it to fit our biology. We're like the ill child of nature. We evolved to be hunter-gatherers on the desert plains of Africa. That's the only place were you'll find humans naked and living half-way decently. Our form simply isn't compatible with advancement. The only reason we've gotten this far is by benefit of the human brain. Take the human brain and put it into the body of an octopus, or a crow, and you'd likely have something a lot more successful.

I'm ever reminded of Agent Smith's speech in the Matrix. How could that which we are evolve, let alone stay alive, elsewhere in the cosmos?

Originally posted by seedofchucky
reply to post by kauskau

 

sooooo your going to tell me the first contact with an alien is portrayed through a book?


You know why some people believe aliens don't exist? because of tools like you that make foolish threads like this


with


NO EVIDENCE ( A book is not evidence just as the christians and the bible how well thats doing for them)


No EVIDENCE


No Evidence



Why should i take you seriously ? When you brought nothing but hearsay and fairy tales ?


Wanna read my book on talking unicorns ? COME ON ITS A BOOK

Why don't you pull your ego out your ....


and call the aliens to come talk to me ?

you have a book on talking unicorns? can I read it?

Originally posted by kindred
reply to post by kauskau

 

You still didn't answer my question. How does believing in Aliens make things better?

where could i start. The list is endless.

The book about iarga describes in my eyes the perfects society. The perfect social structure. They have technique which can make us stop working so hard for the future.
Its all about abundance.

DO you believe there is a society out there that has technique with which you dont need to learn anymore but can just download any information and understand it as you want. Well i do.

Aliens who can travel here surely have a society we can learn from.

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13

Originally posted by APOCALYPSEWATCHMAN
reply to post by kauskau

 

Yes,we have contact.But you are wrong,they do not come from any planet.they are demons

And how would you view ANGELS??

Demons ARE angels....but fallen in nature.

Aliens are these fallen angels, here to deceive and confuse the masses into accepting a lie.

Originally posted by seedofchucky
reply to post by kauskau

 

sooooo your going to tell me the first contact with an alien is portrayed through a book?
You know why some people believe aliens don't exist? because of tools like you that make foolish threads like this
with
NO EVIDENCE ( A book is not evidence just as the christians and the bible how well thats doing for them)
No EVIDENCE
No Evidence
Why should i take you seriously ? When you brought nothing but hearsay and fairy tales ?
Wanna read my book on talking unicorns ? COME ON ITS A BOOK

Why don't you pull your ego out your ....
and call the aliens to come talk to me ?

Where did you go to school? Did they use books?
So can we logically assume that you know nothing at all because you learned from books?
When will this be called trolling? I wonder.

Originally posted by romanmel

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13

Originally posted by APOCALYPSEWATCHMAN
reply to post by kauskau

 

Yes,we have contact.But you are wrong,they do not come from any planet.they are demons

And how would you view ANGELS??

Demons ARE angels....but fallen in nature.

Aliens are these fallen angels, here to deceive and confuse the masses into accepting a lie.

k thanks