"Snitch Mom", London, turns her rioting daughter to the Police!

There is no way in hell that I'd entrust any of my kids to the machinery of the state.

If one of mine was looting, I'd give em a hiding and dump all their swag. I wouldn't want them to get a record and maybe suffer the other crap that the law would throw their way.

My local bike club has a saying "Snitches are a dying breed." Which I think is a pertinent sentiment.

reply to post by SprocketUK


snitches get stitches is our saying.

hell, go over there and teach mom a lesson or 2.

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by SprocketUK

 

snitches get stitches is our saying.

hell, go over there and teach mom a lesson or 2.

like it!

Though I doubt very much that this particular mum is capable of learning anything.
Besides, she snitched on her own, karma will take care of her.

reply to post by BigBruddah

Good on her, If my father saw me breaking the law hed do the same in a heartbeat. Why should she get special treatment from her mother if shes taking part in a useless riot thats going to accomplish absolutely nothing good?

Well then, next time you cheat on your taxes, smoke a joint, speed on the road, do anything illegal (which you will do at some point, we all do) I hope you get snatched in by your family and end in jail.

You 1984-type people can move to North Korea.

Originally posted by Thurisaz

Originally posted by Azdraik
Well, you do stupid things you pay the piper. Also remember we are not talking about a 10 year old kid. We are talking about a 18 year old adult.

If the girl did not know she could get in trouble for this then she doesn't need to be in any dam committee making decisions.

LISTEN UP PEOPLE....

the person is 18 years old !!!

some are carrying on as if the Daughter is a minor... pfft

Doesn't matter if she was 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 or 35...
I've have still dragged any child of mine involved in it down the cop shop by the scruff of their neck!

Some people on here should really pay attention..For many years many of us haven't been threatened with the boogyman we were threatened with the bobbies if we did bad things. I've had members of my own family do stupid things as children, like nicking make up - Guess what? They got dragged the bobbies for a good talking to...Make a fake call to the fire brigade or ambulance?..Got dragged to the bobbies. None of those people have actually suffered later in life....But boy did it sink in...

When my father was a young lad he was caught, by a copper, throwing bricks at the back door of a warehouse. The copper had stern words with my father and ended it by giving him a "clipped ear" (smack around the side of the head). My father was only 10 years old but was old enough to know that what he was doing was wrong... he cried all the way home... I remember him telling me that once he got home his father (my grandfather), seeing that he was distressed and holding his ear, asked him what was wrong. My father explained to my grandfather "A copper just wacked me round the ear" Immediately my grandfathers face turned to anger and he smacked him on the other ear saying "If a copper hit you it must have been for a good reason"

When I was told this story, as a young lad, I always thought about the injustice of this story. My grandfather didn’t even listen to my father’s side of the story and immediately took the police officers side. It always seemed odd, in my mind, that my grandfather would take the word of a stranger of that of his own son and it was even more baffling that my father spoke of the incident with an "I got what I deserved" attitude!.

This story would never happen these days...

This was in the days when Children would give up their seat on a bus and politely say good morning to passersby. The days when children would respect their elders and take pride in doing good deeds.

It’s only now that I am older and have kids of my own that I can sympathise with my grandfathers position and understand his actions. He taught my father a painful, but valuable, lesson... "if you break the laws of society and bring the police to our home there are serious consequences"

It may seem oppressive and barbaric, to some, but you must also remember that my father had a fantastic childhood. His father used to take him camping regularly, taught him to fish, tie knots, whittle wood etc... My father, at the age of ten, could jump on his bike and cycle for hours knowing he only had to be back in time for dinner. He had freedoms that many of today’s X-Box kids will never know. There is a whole underclass of society who think that "going out" means hanging around the entrance to their particular block of flats and abusing the older residents. They think that freedom means exemption from the law and the right to do as you please. And when they do get caught they know they can rely on their morally questionable parents to come running to their defence rather than chastise them.

My father raised me in a similar way to how my grandfather raised him. A mixture of love and discipline. And it is how i am raising my children. Some of my friends feel that i am to strict with my children. One friend cannot understand why I will not allow my 12 years old daughter to go on facebook or have her own TV in her bedroom, however, all of the people i know that are employing modern parenting simply have unruly children and make constant excuses for their children’s bad behaviour. "Oh but that’s what children do" they will say as their children go running and screaming between diners at a restaurant. "er... no they don’t" I think to myself as i look across at my kids simply eating their food and chatting amongst themselves.

This, on its own does not explain the events of last week... it is far deeper and complex issue than just discipline in the home... however, it definitely plays a part.

If you mix lack of discipline and moral guidance, break down in family values, over tolerance and respect for children who don’t deserve it, too much focus and respect for junk culture, materialistic society, widening gap between rich and poor, lazy parenting, lack of cultural identity, media influence, anti-heroes and dark role models, violent and over sexualised media aimed at kids, teachers powerless to employ effective punishments, parents who abuse and systematically beat the children, parents who think that a smack is child abuse, no real understanding of the value of things (not financial), all of these things mixed together, in my opinion, lead to the mess we have today.


My wife and I have finally accepted that we cannot fix societies woes, it has gone too far. All we can do is run from the influence of it... we are getting out.

Peace.




ETA: It strikes me as hypocritical that some people seem to think of discipline for children as oppressive, while believing that burning down people’s homes and looting their businesses is somehow just some a form of expression, while ignoring the oppression of the victims of these crimes.

If every parent had this responsibility, there would have been no rioting.

I cant believe people are saying its wrong. If she doesnt get turned in, the girl will learn she can do whatever she wants with no consequences and will then likely get arrested for something a lot worse later on in life.

The parents that defend their kids behaviour no matter what are the reason theres so many horrible little brats in this country.

Originally posted by seedofchucky
Its people like you who confuse good parenting with your twisted version of parenting .

You have no clue what your talking about and i hope if your a parent you learn to teach your children about responsiblity and holding them accountable for what they have done !

She is European. You are American.

Before you talk down to her, please go and look up some statistics, on comparitive quality of life in those two parts of the world. What you will find, will probably not be consistent with what you have been taught.

What? No racist comments?

Originally posted by Skittle
What? No racist comments?

Whatever your race is, that race is disgusting.

No wonder so there's so much of hatred of God. So many people think justice should be tossed away in the name of nepotism. Would you really support your kids commiting crimes?


The second part is not directed to the poster I quoted.

Originally posted by Flyer
If every parent had this responsibility, there would have been no rioting.

I cant believe people are saying its wrong. If she doesnt get turned in, the girl will learn she can do whatever she wants with no consequences and will then likely get arrested for something a lot worse later on in life.

The parents that defend their kids behaviour no matter what are the reason theres so many horrible little brats in this country.

If wishes were fishes, we could all swim.

The cops had her face from cctv, and unless your technology is way worse than the U.S., the cops would be able to track her easily and find out who she is and where she lived. her mother didn't need to turn her in, they would've found her anyway. By her mother turning her in the girl found out that she can't even trust her own family, so the next time something happens and she needs help, she will not feel safe going to her mother for help. THAT, is why you don't turn your kids in. You don't EVER want to be in a position where your children feel like they cannot trust you. You let things happen as they will, you don't take action and help it along, you solve nothing and only make matters worse for the relationship between you and your child.

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by SprocketUK

 

snitches get stitches is our saying.

hell, go over there and teach mom a lesson or 2.

LOL, i like that saying. Being a nation largely decended from criminals, alot of us in the U.S. to this day dislike being snitches. It doesnt mean we're a Godless lot, just alot of us subscribe to the "judge not lest ye be judged" teaching from Jesus. I'm not for murdering or robbing banks or any of that stuff, but in my family we have always been taught to deal with our own. Our cops have their hands full tracking down pedophile child porno rings, serial killers and taking druglords. We will deal with our own and let them get to the business of hunting down REAL crime.

Wow, I can't believe people would willingly shop their own children, to a bunch of corrupt, sadistic thugs in uniforms.
And then subject them too the British justice system, (with all its faults) and claim it's for their own good.
Why do you need the government to do your job for you, don't you people have faith in yourselves to discipline your own child?

If any of you have children, then I feel really sorry for them....and they should be careful what they say around you.

As for me, I would do anything to protect my kids from anyone who wanted to harm them.
Even if that means breaking the law myself.

Originally posted by SprocketUK
There is no way in hell that I'd entrust any of my kids to the machinery of the state.

If one of mine was looting, I'd give em a hiding and dump all their swag. I wouldn't want them to get a record and maybe suffer the other crap that the law would throw their way.

My local bike club has a saying "Snitches are a dying breed." Which I think is a pertinent sentiment.

100% agree.

This "mother" has committed a despicable and disgusting act upon her own. What a selfish display of utter betrayal against her daughter. If I was in that situation with one of my kids I would ask them to do whatever they think is right and support that decision.

Yes, the looting was deplorable. Yes, punishments must be handed out. But shop your own flesh and blood? A flagrant act of disloyalty that I personally find utterly reprehensible and inexcusable.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by SearchLightsInc

 

exactly how i feel. this was a foolish thing to do on the mother's part. if you're going to punish them, do it yourself, don't bring in the police.

the mother has now permanently alienated her daughter by robbing her future. how her daughter has nothing productive to do but participate in another riot.

What part of she robbed her own future are you guys NOT understanding? They had her on video anyway if she HADNT have turned her in it was gonna be done ANYWAY

If she was worried about her future she shouldnt have broken the law.........

What is wrong with you people

The thing is, People of that age are a little absent-minded when it comes to the future, they are well known for not thinking things through or caring about the long-term consequence - Hence where the parenting comes in.

Yano what they should do with these yobs? Round em all up, cart them like cattle to a nice little camp in the countryside for "Re-education"

Yup, the law is always looking to protect the average joe, Isnt that why the metropolitan police was formed in the first place? /End sarcasm

Originally posted by Flyer
If every parent had this responsibility, there would have been no rioting.

I cant believe people are saying its wrong. If she doesnt get turned in, the girl will learn she can do whatever she wants with no consequences and will then likely get arrested for something a lot worse later on in life.

The parents that defend their kids behaviour no matter what are the reason theres so many horrible little brats in this country.

I could believe people have the mentality to say this is wrong and that last line is very true, not just in any one country either but that is universal. Do you want to see what is wrong with any civilization start with the lawyers who teach society to be dishonest and make it seem ok.

So when I have children and my 18 year old son comes through the door and says "Hi dad I just raped and killed a 4 year old child" I'm supposed to beat him a bit...then tell him "Right I wont turn you into the police because that would be 'mean' of me... so apart from some harsh words and a small beating you're free to go."?


Or are we setting some sort of limit here for what we think is worthy of 'snitching' on your own family for? Because if we are I definitly put taking part in violent riots, stealing items and throwing heavy items at vehicles and people on the list of. "Thats pretty bad kiddo I'm going to have to report it."

I can't believe you guys are applauding this 1984 behavior.
The only mom that should act this way is Tony Blair or Camerons ones .

reply to post by StevenDye


If my kid came home and says he raped and killed a 4 year old, then its obvious they're a very sick person and needs help, and should be locked away for their own safety, and the safety of the public.

But if my kid came home and says they looted some high street store, then I would punish them myself.
And donate their loot to a charity shop.