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The Mark of the Beast, IMHO truley simple.

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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by autowrench

Sigh. I think it is time to dispel all of these false notions of 666, the Anti-Christ, Devil and so on. My, my have religious people been brainwashed! We are Carbon Based Human Beings. The Carbon Atom is composed of:

6 Protons
6 Neutrons
6 Electrons

There is your "666," friend.

How would that keep us from buying and selling?



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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1st; These are the kind of honest responses I need to respond properly to you, so there is no need to apologize because I understand that You dont fully Understand the Bible or How what I'm saying could possibly be True. So I believe that GOD our Father And Mother, sent He/r only begotten son Jesus Christ as Her/His Representative and that Jesus Christ himself, is the only Male in the Trinity Family, the other two members of the trinity family are all FeMales or Xs whereas he is the only "y" or male seed in the Xy as in all fathers and XX= all mothers and if you add them together as the word And suggest you get X(yX)X the view of a FeMale GOD with a Twin son "y" And Daughter X Within Itself or Herself. Read Gen. 25:22-25 to see How GOD describe the two nations in the womb of Rebeccah. So the only difference between the Spirited God and Human's womb is that Rebeccah had twins sons; whereas GOD had one Son and Daughter. This is why the bible says throughout; Male and Female Made He them; and It is for this cause that the Man is to leave His father and mother; and cleave unto his wife. So if the word (FAMILY means Father And Mother I Love You) than the Trinity Family of a Father, Son and Holy Ghost or XyXX shows this family is really, a Father, Son, Mother, Daughter Xy-XX.

So as you know GOD always allowed us to be TESTed. God tested Job, Abraham, Noah and even Jesus Christ when he was sent into the wilderness to be Tested, Tempted by Satan. Now you really need to go back and re-read that conversation, because before Jesus went to the cross; Satan did all that She could to talk Him out of going to the cross, because as the story goes, Than Satan had all the Power. This was shortly after Jesus was Baptised, and People heard a Voice; saying this is my Beloved Son as the spirit ascended upon him as a Dove. So than How Come; Satan kept saying to Him; If thou be the Son of God, etc......; But alls they talked about; over and over was What Is Written! So that's what We all have to use; the Bible as the word of God; that GOD made men write down since the beginning of Time. Lots of people think Satan appeared to Jesus as a Serpent, but I contend Satan appeared to Jesus as a Dark Mysterious Angelic Woman, because that's the only thing this Perfectly Good, Sinless, Virgin, 30+ unmarried man and Son of GOD Hadnt Had Yet. Satan offered Him All the Power She had, but instead Jesus Christ as the only Male, Son etc....Knew He Had To Die For US and his lying so called friends like Simon Peter. So Consider this; What if Satan want Jesus to get down on one knee and ask Her hand in Holy Matrimony, but Jesus knew He had to Die, and Rise to Save Man from themselves.

Now Satan on the Other Hand of GOD's and You know whose on the Right side was given the Mission to Deceive the Whole World, remain Silent, Let folks blame all kinds of things on Her instead of coming clean before GOD. So Satan, is like GOD Other Kid, Escape Goat, Burnt Offering and Black Sheep in the Trinity FAMILY, because GOD, Jesus & Satan are the 3 in Agreement from the start; every since GOD said; Let us make man in our own image, after our own likeness and let them have dominion. So after the tempation in the wilderness; the bible says; Satan Left Him; but only for a Season, and Some Other Very Good Reasons. But before she left; Jesus told Satan to Get Behind Him because He had to Go 1st; and Then Her 2nd.

You said women were deem less than men from the start; That's Wrong as the above shows Dominion was given to THem. Then after Adam gave Eve too much information or added to the word of God that GOD said; she couldnt even Touch the Tree or She would die; this was Not only a Lie, but exactly what beguiled, bewildered and betwitched her into thinking the fruit of the Tree was Good for the Eating. GOD knew all along what Eve would do; and that's why GOD put the serpent there to TEST What She Knew. How many times have you seen the Garden of Eden pictured with Adam and Eve and a Big ole Serpent Wrapped All Around the Tree.
The answer to the Bible's mystery was Right; or should I say Write in the beginning of the Book.

This is what Jesus was trying to get US to see using Proverbs, Psalms, Songs, Symbolism, and Litteral Scripture But We didnt Get it because We were Taught Wrong in the first place. Its like being told all your life; which hand is the left or the right; only to find out your Left hand is really the Right; because its the Righteous side of GOD or the closest to Her Heart and so actually closer to the left than the right.

I never said God excuses the woman, but God is Just and gave Her a 50/50 chance to escape because GOD knew Adam knowing sinned, added to what God said and then put the blame on Her. Man has blamed Her for this since the beginning of Time; which is why you said; women were deemed lesser. But after Jesus Christ Died; and Rose; there's a Whole Different Kind of Party going one. So you can hold on to the 10 Commandments if you want; but I contend there are only three laws now; LOVE GOD With all of Your Heart, Honor thy Father and Mother, not one over the other, especially if One sacrificed more so you could be born and 3 Do this in Rememberance of HIM, Jesus Christ.

So I just contend; after Jesus Christ rose from the cross, and DEFEATED SATAN just as planned, He cast Her into a Bed; and told her to play Dead for about 1000 years. So in closin, I am not twistin the word of the Bible; I'm just tryin to show you another way of lookin at it and End Up with a Win Win. Or think of it like a Mother Coose tale about a woman who lived in a shoe and had so many children she didnt know what to do, So they came up with a plan for Jesus and Satan to have real bodies and live happily forever after the Fall.


Originally posted by theRhenn
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Im sorry, I do not and could never agree with you on any of these points. The bible is the word of God as Jesus himself said that it is infalible. Man took no part in creating the Bible, IMO, he was just the tool to put it down on paper. If there errors in the bible, IF, then there could not be such an error to stear mankind wrong.

Just because the bible uses "Man" as a refrence, does not mean that woman is excused. wo"man"... Woman was deemed less than man in the first books of the bible. Why would it contradict itself?

You voice confusion and twist scriptures to come up with wild ideas. I'm sorry miss, but confusion does not have a place in such order. Chaos breeds confusion. Order breeds perfection. God is not evil, he is jealous. Satan is mentioned as HE and never a She in the bible. The many points you try to make simply breeds confusion. God would never be the trickster you would make him out to be. He would not give us something to confuse us. Even if satan himself created the bible, I seriously doubt that beings it's really the only refrence that mankind has to learn from, he would alow us to fall into such. There would always be a light for us to see, and as of now, the Bible seems to be the only one on an earthly existance at the moment. If the bible was what you say, then why would you use it, twist it, to make your points? Why would you take from it, explain from it, then say it's a tool to decieve?

I really honestly think you are on a very wrong path, my friend.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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I suppose it goes hand in hand. When you take from Gods word or add to it to make it your own, then you're doing something very wrong against him, thus you stand to fall under his judgement. If any and all examples were any indication, then I see that those would meet the same fate in the end. I dont want to say you're not a person of common sense, for I've seen your posts and find some truth in them, but for a lack of better words, I would think that it's common sense



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by 1MrsJesusChrist
You dont fully Understand the Bible.


I stopped reading at this... Why would think that I did not understand the bible? What would make your words more correct? Just because I dont agree with you, and I take the bible quite litteraly, does not mean that I do not understand it. Matter of fact, I feel that I understand a great deal of it. Though, I completely accept that there is much I do not understand, but I can hardly believe that with what you just said that you would understand it anymore than you deem me not understanding it.

Judge a person by their works. If they speak against the word, then everything else they would say would hold just as much water... none.

No one speaks for God, not one. You would have to be a "chosen one" and I dont see any miracles flowing from you.
I'm not badgering you or putting you down, at least that is not my intentions. I simply feel and believe that what you say is incorrect to the fullest degree by what you have said thus far. If you are correct, then I will know one day, I assure you, but untill then, I feel safer sticking to what I have pulled from the bible simply, without much thought. The rest comes from contemplation, yet without adding or taking away. Giving a word another meaning is not truth. It's speculation, unless you can show me more evidence of what you say is true.

Something akin to numerology. Does it exist? I think so. Why would God not alow it if it were completely real? To keep us from knowing? No, because it is twisted and used to fit any cituation one wants it to be. Perhaps another reason is because God does not want us to rely on that for knowledge but him for complete truth and understanding. We originaly are supposed to rely on him for EVERY thing, and only then (Pure Faith) would we understand and move mountains. Though I admit, there are some aspects of moving moutains with the faith of a mustard seed that baffles me, but then, I know of no one that can do such on earth today (without weapons) or kill trees with a word.... because simply, I beleieve that mankind is simply faithless, as we doubt more than our faith.. even that small faith, we doubt. But.... Yet we pray so we must have some. This is where I am split.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by theRhenn
When you take from Gods word or add to it to make it your own, then you're doing something very wrong against him, thus you stand to fall under his judgement.
How do you know that the Bible is an accurate representation of the word of a god? How do you know it is the word of a god at all, and how do you know that it is even remotely close to what the original writings said as there are none to go by?

It's not like the sumerian tablets that we have which are dated to be from the same time they were created. Would that mean that the sumerian tablets and what they say are true since they are more than likely originals?
edit on 26-7-2011 by Hydroman because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:41 PM
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Sorry, once more..


You said this:

So I believe that GOD our Father And Mother....

I wish to touch on this a little. You refer to God being both mother and father. You gather all of this from the bible. But, my issue with this is... The bible came from the Hebrew. That's where it began. It continued with the new testament, the words of Christ. The old testament, much of which is part of the Tora, is for Israel, the Jews. Those same people believed that there was a totaly seperate being that was God's wife, but spoken only in old Jewish texts. I'm not sure if there is any refrence to it in the bible itself. But the name was Asherah according to one theologist. You can read about it Here. This is one researcher's belief that it was taken out of the bible on purpose. If you wish, you can find more examples of this name and possition on wiki or through google. Since it's almost time for me to head home from work, I will not be able to offer more than that.

Point being.. God would not be husband and wife if he had a wife.
Though, I really cant say that I believe there is a "wife" one way or the other. I simply dont know and do not have the correct resources to make a call on that one, but for the sake of where you're going, I thought I would throw that out there. This comming from documents far older than any of us as well as the bible in it's current form.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by theRhenn
When you take from Gods word or add to it to make it your own, then you're doing something very wrong against him, thus you stand to fall under his judgement.
How do you know that the Bible is an accurate representation of the word of a god? How do you know it is the word of a god at all, and how do you know that it is even remotely close to what the original writings said as there are none to go by?

It's not like the sumerian tablets that we have which are dated to be from the same time they were created. Would that mean that the sumerian tablets and what they say are true since they are more than likely originals?
edit on 26-7-2011 by Hydroman because: (no reason given)


Because I feel it is. If God exists, and I've already explained this... Why would he have something before us, our only source of truth and knowledge of him, to stray us?

If you know your bible and the history it gives, the sumerians were not here first. They came after and they worshiped false Gods. To me, the bible is an ABSOLUTE record of everything the Hebrew/Jewish people went through since the beginning of time. That record book tells every step since the beginning, and it tells the history of everything of those people. It is writen as though it was before the sumerians and it also speaks of them in a fashion in that they came after. There is an order to it. The sumerians only spoke of the jews as slaves and people conquered. So does the bible. But all history branches from the bible, not from the sumerian text. I believe the bible came before those texts. It just didnt get put together in the fashion we have today, in that time. Adam and Eve spawned all the nations more less, including the sumerians. This is why I dont believe the sumerian texts are something to go by since knowledge that came before them labled them as followers of false gods. Not to mention, of all the nations that ever existed... The Jews are still here as a people, even though others dont believe they are the real people from the beginning.

I could speak for days on how this branches from the beginning, but I'm afraid I do not have the time today. Perhaps tomorrow



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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I wonder why the biblical god has a gender. We know that Jesus calls this god "Father" and it says "He" but how do they come to this conclusion? Does this god have a penis? If so, why? If not, why is it a "he" or a "father"?

Or, is it meant as a metaphor and this god, if it exists, is not really a male being, but some kind of asexual being?



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by theRhenn

Because I feel it is.
Muslims feel the Koran is correct.


Originally posted by theRhenn
If God exists, and I've already explained this... Why would he have something before us, our only source of truth and knowledge of him, to stray us?
Same thing can be said about any of the gods who have stories written about them and their exploits. The Hindu gods for example.


Originally posted by theRhenn
If you know your bible and the history it gives, the sumerians were not here first. They came after and they worshiped false Gods. To me, the bible is an ABSOLUTE record of everything the Hebrew/Jewish people went through since the beginning of time. That record book tells every step since the beginning, and it tells the history of everything of those people. It is writen as though it was before the sumerians and it also speaks of them in a fashion in that they came after. There is an order to it. The sumerians only spoke of the jews as slaves and people conquered. So does the bible. But all history branches from the bible, not from the sumerian text. I believe the bible came before those texts. It just didnt get put together in the fashion we have today, in that time. Adam and Eve spawned all the nations more less, including the sumerians. This is why I dont believe the sumerian texts are something to go by since knowledge that came before them labled them as followers of false gods. Not to mention, of all the nations that ever existed... The Jews are still here as a people, even though others dont believe they are the real people from the beginning.

I could speak for days on how this branches from the beginning, but I'm afraid I do not have the time today. Perhaps tomorrow

What do you mean the Jews were the real people from the beginning? That would make us all Jews, wouldn't it, since we would all come from the same common ancestor?

The Sumerian civilization came into being at about 6000 years ago if I'm not mistaken. According to the Bible, Abraham came out of Ur, which was in Sumeria. The Hebrews came from Abraham. Sumeria existed before the Hebrews. Don't you think Abraham would have learned of the flood stories and other things like that from the Sumerian teachings, as he was Sumerian himself?
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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by Hydroman
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I wonder why the biblical god has a gender. We know that Jesus calls this god "Father" and it says "He" but how do they come to this conclusion? Does this god have a penis? If so, why? If not, why is it a "he" or a "father"?

Or, is it meant as a metaphor and this god, if it exists, is not really a male being, but some kind of asexual being?


You would be better off asking him when you get there.

If he's the "Father" then he's simply that. We're made in his image.. so perhaps so. I wouldnt see why not. But then, I have no idea. I've never seen him face to face, and if I had, that's probably not on my list of things to ask him. It would be a little creepy asking your own father such things.. why would you ask that? You ok, hydro?



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by theRhenn


You would be better off asking him when you get there.

If he's the "Father" then he's simply that. We're made in his image.. so perhaps so. I wouldnt see why not. But then, I have no idea. I've never seen him face to face, and if I had, that's probably not on my list of things to ask him. It would be a little creepy asking your own father such things.. why would you ask that? You ok, hydro?
I don't have to ask my father that, I know he is a man, I have seen his penis and sack o' nuts.


Why would a god need such things? Does he need to urinate? Does he need to reproduce? What if in all actuality this god looks like a giant slimy genderless slug? How would you react to that, that all this time you pictured this being as a man, but when you meet it, it is something you never imagined?



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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"Muslims feel the Koran is correct. "


Maybe they are. Our books are similar.

"What do you mean the Jews were the real people from the beginning? That would make us all Jews, wouldn't it, since we would all come from the same common ancestor? "

Yes, you are correct. But Jews to me are those that kept returning to Israel and following God's laws. Anyone can be a Jew.


The Sumerian civilization came into being at about 6000 years ago if I'm not mistaken. Abraham came out of Ur, which was in Sumeria. The Hebrews came from Abraham. Sumeria existed before the Hebrews.


I dont believe that. I believe that it's possible they were there pre-flood and the inhabitants after took up that place and called themselves thus. But I do not believe anyone was around before the original tribes from adam and eve. Eventually, after abram, or later, they became jews. Before they were just Hebrew.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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again as in another thread someone may have already brought these up but anyway here are what I believe are some pretty good clues in regards to "the beast" and his mark, keeping in mind things like "there is no one[flesh] righteous on earth" and "no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon","in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth" (except he who came and took it) as well as all the human history in literal (blood-shed type) human sacrifice for their god/s


as it is writun, The firste man Adam was maad in to a soule lyuynge, the laste Adam in to a spirit quykenynge.But the firste is not that that is spiritual, but that that is beestlich, aftirward that that is spiritual.
The firste man of erthe is ertheli; the secounde man of heuene is heuenelich. Such as the ertheli man is, such ben the ertheli men; and such as the heueneli man is, suche ben also the heueneli men.Therfor as we han bore the ymage of the ertheli man, bere we also the ymage of the heuenli. 1Corinthis15
en.wikisource.org...(Wycliffe)

For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer.
2Corinthians5

I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
11

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians3

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,
The leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
The calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little child shall lead them.
Isaiah11

And looking at Jesus as He walked, he said, “Behold the Lamb of God!”
John1

the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.
1Peter1

For behold, the stone That I have laid before Joshua: Upon the stone are seven eyes. Behold, I will engrave its inscription,’ Says the LORD of hosts, ‘ And I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Zecheriah3

And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
Revelation4

The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
17

be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
23

He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
10

And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest. And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
Luke22
www.biblegateway.com...

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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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Yes the bible was derived from the Hebrew and they didnt uses vowels, and sometimes the priest had to have a rope tided around him, so when he went into places only he could they could pull him out in case he was overcome by the spirit. I say you dont understand the bible because I know; you were not chosen to show it; because if you were chosen you would be posting the things I do. Also if you knew your bible you wouldnt be expecting miracles since Jesus himself said; This is an evil generation, you seek a miracle; but none will be gibven except for the sign of Jona and the Queen of the South to rise up in the Last Day of Judgment.

But just imagine if you will if In the Beginning we all spoke the Kings English, before God turned it into Babble; then we as God's disobedient kids; Unknowingly made a game of it like Scrabble. Where each letter of the Alpha Bet has a certain power, principle and place as well as a number associated with it. So in the last day; Each word of the Bible will be fulfilled; but only If You LOok at it Another Way. I am not bringing another Gospel at all; Just giving you a different Viewpoint. No One Has Ever Heard the Viewpoint of Satan, but did you think you Never Would?

God was Married to Isreal and Divorced Isreal but Israel and Judah were considered as Sister Twin; Are you telling me that Men and Women cant be dedicated to the Bridegroom to Come when We are the Church or His Bride? Do you think God would p;rovide a wife for Adam, Moses, Josep;h, etc; but Not the Son of GOD, King of Kings, than you would be wrong. Me saying that Satan is to be His Bride; makes sense since Satan said in His Heart; I sit as a Queen and Shall be No Widow, .....Well Jesus Christ is Risen, and Alive Forever is he not?

Do you think God coulld raise up Satan who was once like Dead, very much the same way Jesus rose the ruler of the synoogoes daughter from the Dead. When Jesus said; She was Just Sleeping even his own brothers and Disciples laughed at Him; think He had lost His Mind; they KNEW She was Dead and Didnt Believe Him; which is why Jesus Cast them out of the House. Every word of the Bible is symbolic, litteral, mathematically and even scientific; down to the Male And female theory Xy-XX . Just because I showed this as an example doesnt mean I changed the bible.


Originally posted by theRhenn
reply to post by 1MrsJesusChrist
 


Sorry, once more..


You said this:

So I believe that GOD our Father And Mother....

I wish to touch on this a little. You refer to God being both mother and father. You gather all of this from the bible. But, my issue with this is... The bible came from the Hebrew. That's where it began. It continued with the new testament, the words of Christ. The old testament, much of which is part of the Tora, is for Israel, the Jews. Those same people believed that there was a totaly seperate being that was God's wife, but spoken only in old Jewish texts. I'm not sure if there is any refrence to it in the bible itself. But the name was Asherah according to one theologist. You can read about it Here. This is one researcher's belief that it was taken out of the bible on purpose. If you wish, you can find more examples of this name and possition on wiki or through google. Since it's almost time for me to head home from work, I will not be able to offer more than that.

Point being.. God would not be husband and wife if he had a wife.
Though, I really cant say that I believe there is a "wife" one way or the other. I simply dont know and do not have the correct resources to make a call on that one, but for the sake of where you're going, I thought I would throw that out there. This comming from documents far older than any of us as well as the bible in it's current form.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by autowrench

Sigh. I think it is time to dispel all of these false notions of 666, the Anti-Christ, Devil and so on. My, my have religious people been brainwashed! We are Carbon Based Human Beings. The Carbon Atom is composed of:

6 Protons
6 Neutrons
6 Electrons

There is your "666," friend.

How would that keep us from buying and selling?


Read my posts, friend, and you will see my view of the Bible. Like a double edged sword, there is much wisdom in there, but a lot of untruths also. Remember, written by men with an agenda, not God. If the economy does what people think it will, you will not be buying or selling even without a "mark." The money just won't be any good.



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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If you know your bible and the history it gives, the sumerians were not here first. They came after and they worshiped false Gods.


Sorry, but Sumeria came long before Israel and the Hebrews did, I have come to believe even Moses was a Sumerian, there is some reference to that in history. The Gods and Goddesses of Sumeria were the creators of humankind, the Annunaki. Face it, Sumeria was the very first civilization ever. nothing of humanistic reality came before it did.

Question for you: How do you know your God is real? Have you seen him?



posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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I have actually read this whole theory. As it also goes into golden ratio's and something about the light barers lying to us. That we are stuck in a illusion of light. And that the light is our prison.
It goes on to say Light =Bad and Darkness =Good.

And yes I even considered what you said before you posted it here. If you go under my profile I did a thread on it (Is the Matrix Real) with a very long video. But at that point I did not read the whole thing. Like I said I am a seeker and have even read up on the essence's. Their beliefs and all.

But thanks for the thought's



LOTZA LUV 2 U



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:01 AM
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Good Morning, I apologize it took me so long to respond. But I wanted to actually listen to all you had to say.
I can make a big butt outta my self if I do not LOL. First just let me say Rhenn is comeing from a complete place of love, so dont hold it against them. I can see by you're message, you believe it to be 100% true.

I do not believe that thinking GOD can be both MAN/Female is a deal breaker on salvation. It would explain what seem's to be the 2 face's of GOD. The disaplinarion and the nurturer. I also heard a theory once that we are all in GODS brain or utterace.GOD haveing a wife was before the single god worship era for the hebrew's. Many believe she is represented by the tree of life.Am I 100% sure of that theory no but I dont think it is bad to think on the mysteries of this universe and GOD theirself. It was never forbidden to do so.

The Satan/Lucifer thing is were you throw me off a bit. But I can also add that in Judism Lucifer is still an angel just doing his job. Which was to test the faith of humanity.
The other part that confusses me is you seem not to touch on why when Jesus states the true church is his bride it doesnt mean us but you.
My other question is, Is our whole exsistence based on just satan and Jesus becomeing married. I am not sure if that is implied or not.
Also how is you're message our salvation?

No disrespect intended just confused. Thanks for when ever you get around to it.

LOTZA LUV 2 U



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by theRhenn


You would be better off asking him when you get there.

If he's the "Father" then he's simply that. We're made in his image.. so perhaps so. I wouldnt see why not. But then, I have no idea. I've never seen him face to face, and if I had, that's probably not on my list of things to ask him. It would be a little creepy asking your own father such things.. why would you ask that? You ok, hydro?
I don't have to ask my father that, I know he is a man, I have seen his penis and sack o' nuts.


Why would a god need such things? Does he need to urinate? Does he need to reproduce? What if in all actuality this god looks like a giant slimy genderless slug? How would you react to that, that all this time you pictured this being as a man, but when you meet it, it is something you never imagined?


Get help... now you're just being silly, hydro.



posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 07:17 AM
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Yes the bible was derived from the Hebrew and they didnt uses vowels, and sometimes the priest had to have a rope tided around him, so when he went into places only he could they could pull him out in case he was overcome by the spirit. I say you dont understand the bible because I know; you were not chosen to show it; because if you were chosen you would be posting the things I do. Also if you knew your bible you wouldnt be expecting miracles since Jesus himself said; This is an evil generation, you seek a miracle; but none will be gibven except for the sign of Jona and the Queen of the South to rise up in the Last Day of Judgment.



lol

Are you serious? So you... Of all the people in the world... Are alone able to decypher some hidden message in the bible? Hardly. Is your name Sasha Fawl (sp?)

I gave you the benifit of a doubt before, now... I'm just doubting everything you say. What makes you the almighty of scripture? Just because it's in YOUR head, does not mean it is true.

I wouldnt normaly say this... But you seriously might need to look into profesional help, miss. Seriously. It's not like me to call anyone out like this, but wow! You really believe this ... crap?




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