Massive UFO disclosure in USA : A challenge for ATS

reply to post by IsaacKoi


Who owns www.footnote.com and does this site have any affiliation with abovetopsecret.com -

I have to ask seeing as this thread has 200+ flags

Epic thread good man
2nd line

may i ask you how long it took you to create this thread?

reply to post by samaka

Sadly still there's not one shred of evidence of alien life

well theres not one shred of evidence god exists either, but hey, if believing in god makes you feel a little more comfortable about whats going to happen to you when you die then good for you.

i'm often amazed at how malleable the human mind can be, like playdoh, moulded into a belief by the hands of their own fears and then it sets like rock.

You need a mind like a sponge, a mind able to absorb information, bend and twist with thought and wonder while still having the ability to take it's original form, common sense.

reply to post by Peloquin

500 years ago, it was an "extraordinary" claim, that the earth wasn't flat. And the guys promoting the idea, that the earth was round, couln't rely on witness accounts, photos, videos or anything like that.

thats a perfect example with shows my post is 100% correct..thank you..

as you said..

500 years ago saying that the Earth wasn't flat was an Extraordinary Claim..


UNTIL..

Extraordinary evidence was presented..

Did you ever heard about the Wooden Stick Shadow experiment..its what proved that the Earth wasn't flat..and guess what..they calculated the circumference of the planet with immaculate precision..only few miles short i think..


Now as i said ..this thread brings nothing new to the table..just a Flag Bonanza to the OP for all the time taken

Same old stuff bluebook, fbi, 1950 sightings....
I don't see anything new here

Originally posted by NeoVain
I would say the reason for people largely ignoring these documents are several.

1. They are old.
2. Very few pictures(no proof)
3. Most of the material only offer a short writeup of a supposed sighting of something they cannot identify(could be anything) from some random person with no backround check (may be a known prankster/attention whore)
4. The clearer of a discription of the object given, the easier to imagine it to be something natural it becomes. Like the us coast guard one, exact discription of a ball lightning.
5. After getting disappointed in looking at 5 different sightings, most ppl usually give up.

I did a quick and dirty search on the phenomena of ball lightning because I've seen it mentioned in regards to UFO sightings. I wondered how often a sighting of ball lightning is reported. The answers I saw varied from mythological, hypothetical, to descriptions from pea size to basketball size. Often confused with St Elmos Fire. I did not get an answer on its commonality. Reports are made during thunderstorms and sometimes in the absence of storms all together.

Originally posted by toomanyideas
Related to UFO sightings. I am in the area of New Brunswick, Canada. Tonight at 9:00pm on a very foggy day the atmosphere became very bright and yellow, which slowly transitioned to pink, purple, green, and etc. After the bright color scheme was over, the sky went pitch black. In the last while, there has been many sudden flashes, resembling something brightly appearing with a flash and dissipating while moving in a downward direction. Hours before this, during the initial color changes, I received a message from a friend indicating that "something has arrived from the sky". I talked to him, and he elaborated that he saw a brightness come from the sky and fill the horizon, which created the initial "bright-out". We discussed the entire phenomenon, but I'm posting it here, because this thread seems related, and I cannot create a thread yet. New member, and I hope this is not off topic since it is a contribution to sightings.

Has anyone addressed this person yet? I ask because on another thread yesterday or the day before I can't remember, someone else mentioned an anomalous atmospheric conditions in the north east north american continent.

Manmade craft or aliens, either way we are being lied to by our "superiors"

It sounds more likely to me that USA created so many undisclosed flying crafts to spy on the rest of the world, notice how the entire world reports their ufo experiences but USA barely does?

Take the whole nuclear weapon power race, we detonated 1000 nuclear test explosives before the rest of the world combined reached 1000.

We also spend billions a year on black budget projects that we don't even get a receipt.

But that does not remove the possibility that aliens are observing us and always have been. people say "well why don't they show themselves why play hide and seek?" Well even humans know that the act of observation changes the way people think, i would bet that they would know that too.

Try this, go in your backyard and look at a colony of ants, do you feel the need to try to befriend them or be one of them? No, you just sit back and observe the greatness of nature, or smash the entire colony and not think twice.

some interesting results on , nazi , bell , ufo ,

ended up reading about nazi financiers , and all sorts of interesting USO reports from japan WW2 , from carriers and subs !

interesting stuff
some nice pictures of UFO;s as well you just have to dig !

reply to post by flyingkiwi


hmm well , extremophile bacteria growing on the ISS thats alien life !

DAMN good job. This is the most informative thread I've seen on ATS in a long time. With this much info to sift through I can stay busy for quite a while. Thanks for taking the time and effort to put this together.

Hi man

Butifull post you got here.

I must say that since I consider myself to belive in Aliens I have already read all Danish reports there is also public and also read all English.

After watching endless shows regarding space I am however unconvinced if Aliens can come to our planet unless they actually move around near the speed of thoughts. - (Problery a system like that would req. you to go first to one star system, then next etc etc still taking some time to get anywhere ofc).

I am actually starting to believe that all this alien cover ups by the government is so we do not focus on the more relevant stuff going around. Examples? - Use search botton on above topsecret and read about politicians cheating with funds getting richer and richer.

Ex: In Denmark you just have to be voted in to the house of politics called Christiansborg: www.ft.dk...

There you can sit for a few months doing nothing getting payed a lot i mean A LOT everymonth. If you then are kicked out because you quite frankly suck, you will still no matter what recv. around 60.000DKK (That is a lot of dollars) each month for the rest of your live en pensions. - Isnt that just redicules?

I think that is more relevant for the public and the youth to think about.

Also this post is damn awsome I think. Unfortunatly there is no change in hell I can read 160.000 documents in my lifetime regarding this one subject, just think like this it takes a minut to open each and minimum 5 to examine it good. - So we are problery talking around 1 to 2 million minuttes instead of just 160.000.

This is just another large cover up so we do not look at what is important. This post is problery put here by the government so we can waste time

Thanks,

regarding getting all the documents, have you tried contacting the site owner and seeing if they can transfer the documents to a hard drive if you were to send them one?

reply to post by IsaacKoi


Great thread IsaacKoi.
Gonna take a while to get through it all.

It just goes to show all this info that something is really going on.
So much evidence and witness testimony compiled how can anyone ignore all that.

Any non believers here seeing all that i hope you have a good look as there is so much weight here its incredible not to believe something is going on with UFO activity around our planet.

Thanks OP,thats alot of information.

I enjoyed reading it,thanks.

Cheers

reply to post by flyingkiwi


Do you know what's so funny about aliens and God? That aliens are afraid of God/Jesus... think about it why is that? Concerning aliens, yes there's been countless reports of people during abduction calling out the name God would halt the abduction in it's process, don't believe me? matter of fact I've even seen those type of reports in the FBI government files, look it up and that's just one relation between alien to demons and there's many many more parallel relations from aliens to demons

I don't consider myself a religious person I just call it like I see it. If you people really want to know the answer you guys are going to have look waaaaaaay beyond google and "undisclosed" government documents because that too all goes back to 1 source. You guys have to look at the big picture here and look at the ROOT of it all.

After having a near death experience and being in a coma for 4 days I have come to the conclusion that aliens control our every thought, action, and move. There is no addiction. We are literally puppets. They control us through our thoughts.

Originally posted by schuyler
In the final analysis it seems to me that the best place for this stuff is an easily accessible, searchable location that requires the least work. In other words, a web site. And, of course, it's already there. So if the idea is to make a better site than the one it is on now, that means a very different project and skill set than the idea of grabbing that stuff off of the existing site. So I think some clarification of intent is necessary here. What is the end result you would like to see and how will that help?

Well, my objectives with this thread were:

(1) To highlight the resource.

(2) To find out if anyone can tell me an efficient way to download the collection of documents (or - as a more modest fall-back - the administrative files in the directories ending with a blank for location, i.e. blank year blank month blank location or with a year and month but a blank location) so that I can read them without being dependent upon a very unreliable website (with loading times which vary considerably from reasonable to taking forever).

The first objective has - at least to some extent - now been met.

The second objective has not.

I do not intend to put all the 139,000 on another website. I agree that would be a waste of time and (considerable) effort.

Also, as I indicated in Section 7 of my article, I am keen to retain as much data associated with each image as possible when saving the images - but I'd focus on that issue more once anyone puts forward any feasible ideas for actually downloading the images in the first place. One step at a time.

If you spend a few hours using the Footnote.com website to look at these documents, I think you will have a better idea of why I want to avoid using that interface to read the documents - it simply is incredibly frustrating when first two pages of a document download quite quickly but the third page will not display at all and then when you try going back to the second page bits of it will suddenly not display regardless of how many times you click refresh...

All the best,

Isaac

Originally posted by zorgon
I see what you mean... no nice PDF format and very slow loading a file you want through their viewer. That will take a long time to wade through

Hi Zorgon,

Thanks for taking the time to look at the Footnote.com website and post your experience.

Some of the pages can be quite quick but others, as you say, can be VERY slow...

All the best,

Isaac