This is a condensed version of the entire thread so far. Please read if you have not read anything else, its a bit long but better than sifting
through 40 pages - Currently I'm attempting to post a recap every 5 pages or so - the link will be in my signature
Thanks so much! .
John 8: 3-11 was mentioned on page 3
post by DamaSan and page 10
post by Cuervo
1 Samuel 8:3-11 -
Kamesan pointed out it may reference 1 Samuel 8:3-11,
which I
transcribed here
Pictures of both the boy and girl are on
page 9, and the
top of page 10
originally found by
David291 on page 7 but for your quick viewing
pleasure
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6da644e0847a.png[/atsimg]
Damasan examined the EXIF data for the "sightings" photos on page 2.
Domo1 shows a hidden picture within the picture on page 3 - and
rushunt found this video in the same regard.
Domo1 shows an image of weird symbols in the photo that look like
constellations, and
close up of lips to show the skin disease on page
10.
Domo1 shows an example of why her face is altered and how on page 26.
Also check out the very creepy videos shared by
AnIntellectualRedneck
here
- Their decoded alphabet was posted
by Domo1, here
Also (could be noted below but image relevant) they claim they'll show us the "original" Belle image on 8/3/11
BrnBrdy found an interesting tombstone saying "Belle A Babb, Mansfield,
May 23, 1846, Aug 1, 1911"
rushunt freaked me out with his mirrored reptilian image on page 34!!!
ewwww!
TNTarheel found this picture of twins (in black and white) found in one
of the Q&A connections - possibly relating to "duality" as mentioned about the original photoshopped Belle image
Note: in the Q&A they claim the image is just that, their image, and that the person in the image, "Belle" is related to the group but NOT involved
What we know from the
formspring Q & A (external link)
- Members of 8•3•11 go by names of
175.000 = The one who responds to questions. This in North America. The leader (18,000) got in touch with him.
18.000 = The leader. Have you read the novel "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. Only can be tier 1.
36.000 = is a woman. This tier 2 level. Oldest member
68.000 = Encode messages. It is not human
21.000 = Have you read the novel "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. Tier 2. (list from
TNTarHeel thank you for updating me
- 8/15 is Jake's birthday (no clue who Jake is..)
- They claim they are NOT RELATED to the 8-3-11 facebook page
- They do however support this Facebook page
8•3•11 (external link) but claim the administrator is
not related to their group
- They like the constellation Cassiopeia
- They use the Gregorian calendar
- They are not terrorists
- They have a female member and a member in South Africa
- They don't drink coffee or smoke
- They claim this is not related to money in any way
- They claim this is not related to aliens in any way
- They claim this is not related to "Guy Fawkes" in any way
- They claim it is a "recantment" of some kind.
- They claim it COULD be considered art (as speculated by several people throughout the thread)
- Correction here from previous updates regarding SAM
- - - it was pointed out to me by
Neil1972 that they claim they have one
Non-Human Member named SAM (dog? cat? pigeon? algorithm?)
- Sam is listed in the "site info" on page 3 by
DesertedIsland (Billing Name:Sam
Eightthreeeleven)
- The responder on the Q&A also claims to be "nervous" about the upcoming date.
- Whatever THEY are doing is because YOU won't
- They claim it will NOT be illegal
- They claim it has nothing to do with Marble Hornets
- Only those who are involved will know details before August the 3rd.
- Only they can answer the "indicated" questions.
- It's the opposite of a political group trying to promote an unilateral thinking
- They believe this is a positive movement.
- This wasn't planned
- EXACTLY 38.451% of the world is injustice (thank you
BeaverTail what
could that mean?????
Extra Thanks to
this post by harlot7 and
this post by grey580 (please visit grey580's post for more info, it was
too much to copy)
What we know about Belle (thanks to
youngminds92
for the list)
- is not dead.
- is not in danger
- is a symbol of the cause
- is American
- It is NOT the fault of the group that she is sick
- was not tortured or physically damaged
- is NOT hospitalized
- The photo looks like you have photoshop because the child has a skin disease
Its been noted by
dethduck that
- "Sam" runs the facebook page (guessing 175,000 didn't have that info at the time?)
- "He (175,000) already said on the Formspring that it's a photoshop of two pictures of the same person. One when she was six"
- That
conetproject (external link) is a copycat
- Confirmed by
p4rs3c on page 13 (the link jump doesn't work)
dethduck called (conet) out here, AND!!
explains the Conetproject in detail here! (the id jump isn't working but
its at the very bottom) - They are absolutely not related.
Other Interesting facts mentioned
- 8311 spells BELL - and "Belle" is supposedly 83 years old.
- 83113 is the Zip Code for Big Piney, Wyoming. (thank you
BrnBdry)
- 8+3+1+1=13 (thank you
Phasma
- 1/1/83: 1/1/83: ARPANET adopted the standard TCP/IP protocol
nice find
AstroBuzz! who went on to point out (possibly in regards to their "levels"/"tiers"
A tier 1 network is an Internet Protocol (IP) network that participates in the Internet solely via settlement-free interconnection, also known as
settlement-free peering.
A Tier 2 Network is an Internet service provider who engages in the practice of peering with other networks, but who still purchases IP transit to
reach some portion of the Internet
- -
This follows the thinking that it is somehow related to Mary Bell, child murderess mentioned by
Libertygal on page 3 - her partner in crime was 13 years old
-
tsawyer2 had a good theory with 18,000 troops to afghanistan, another
68,000 added last year, and as of 3/31 a total of 175,000 total troops
- 8*3*11=264 and Google is dropping H.264 from Chrome (thank you
Harlot7)
-
Copyfight vs Copywrite?
lynn112 believes it has something to do with being AGAINST intellectual
property laws.
-
IceFlower is sure that their code numbers are not radio frequencies
-
potential_problem found some interesting things in the mp3 ID tags. And
when played backwards found "carnival" type music with the word "help" repeating (as if it couldn't get more creepier)
-
harlot7 noted there were email addresses ending in *.gov (potential
thinks its not a real list, but its up for speculation)
The overall consensus is that this'll turn out to be a religious thing (re: john 8:3-11; and the cork tree information posted by
DustbowlDebutante and the 1 Samuel 8:3-11) - possibly related to the
movie THX1138
Something else that jives with the religion aspected pointed out
here by
plewis51 - apparently there is a religious movement described on
This facebook page (external link) that starts on 8/3 and needs
18,000 members.
Other speculations include ..
- a sociology project.
- a marketing gimmick for a game/movie release (the most compelling evidence from
IceFlower)
- an announcement regarding the holocaust
- something to do with Elenin entering the atmosphere on August
- something to do with the US debt deadline on 8/2
- some type of ARG (Alternate Reality Game; speculated by
Zyril here
- a very nice theory from
QBSneak000 about
rememberance day ♥ (Domo1 said someone else brought it up first though, oh well, I can't get them all!)
All links go to their respective posts here at ATS, in this thread, EXCEPT where specifically noted
if I missed anything, please let me know ♥
Questions to Answer...
Is there a relation to Boyd Bell, confederate spy, speculation from
lesisgod
lesisgod also speculated Yhf (asked on the Q&A in morse code) was related to Wilco (there's a recap
here, by plewis51
Is there a relation to model Camilla "Bell Alberta" and/or Lady Gaga...
Is there a relation to
Ultrasonic Testing
(external link] shared by
shushu in reference to the Q&A noting
there are "levels"
- - What is SAM?
- - What could they be recanting? Everything maybe?
Is there a relation to John Proffitt? (thank you
WarminIndy - closest
info recap
here
Also from
WarminIndy, whats up with the "Look both ways before cross the
street"?
I found this so far in relation to that:
-
IMDB 2005 Movie: Look Both Ways - about a train wreck....
- I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road. —
Stephen Hawking
- its also almost a direct quote from the movie CryBaby (Depp; 1990)
Could the frequency of wing beats per second account for their code names?
Why do "sighting photos" have the University of South Florida on them? thanks to
Jagx1981
Rushunt found this3.8.11 It is Georgi Markov was poisoned / killed by his
wife Anna Belle Markov Dilke, which killed him with a umbrella poisoned, 08/03/11 is the date the org .. BELLE is trying to save their trauma. (and
included some more very creepy videos in his post, don't miss them if you need another nightmare!)
drphilxr reminded me that 175,000 women denied a womens rights movement affiliation and that Arabella Mansfield was a "shemale" lawyer
(wiki didn't confirm the shemale part, but did say she was a womens rights lawyer) - it was asked about on the Q&A but no real answer was given
(response was "the first shemale lawyer" like they were poking fun of the shemale part)
Someone pointed it out it may be related to steganography, and if anyone has any input on Wilco or the movie THX -
harlot7 has been working on that - tons of similarities but nothing solid
yet ♥
Also, we would like more people to peek at the original images in the OP - the text has been deciphered already. I'm curious about the stars
myself.
Additional Thanks to
Tripwire for some recap info, as well as
grey580 for his ulti-list
edit on 20-7-2011 by Forevever because:
tweak
edit on 20-7-2011 by Forevever because: tweak 2
edit on 21-7-2011 by Forevever because: I need a shot of
Tequila!!!