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Originally posted by jmdewey60
Is there a counterpart to LOL, something for, Yelling, NO, out loud?
(this remark is in response to the answer from KJV, to IAMIAM's question)edit on 26-9-2011 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
Heres another one just for fun...
29And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
30And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
yet.. john states clearly...
17For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Originally posted by KJV1611
Jeremiah most certainly could have "said this", he just didn't "write it". Zechariah was the one that wrote it!
Hints the:not written.
Then was fulfilled that which was SPOKEN by Jeremy the prophet
25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
29And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
8And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth. 9And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. 10And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. 11And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
The Holy Bible is always right. I am wrong more often than not!
This one just thinks hes always right, which anyone can easily prove otherwise
Matthew could have been inspired to make the error that a later prophecy could be fulfilled.
For example...
Originally posted by KJV1611
I just can't buy this premise. If I did then I would be denying the word of God in multiple places. Here for one:
This is one thing in the world of Christianity we cannot budge on, at all. Either the Bible speaks true about itself, or it does not. No room for doubts with this subject. For if just one item is wrong, just one topic is wrong, then the WHOLE Bible is trash. Its been 3,500 years now....and has yet to be proven wrong. But has been proven right and changed millions of peoples lives for the better.
Jacob is not the only one who had seen God and lived in the old testament!
Hos 12:4-5
Deut 24:13 and 30:16-18
most of the prophets too.
Rom 10:1-10 for more
But to answer you, No. No one has seen God the FATHER face to face and lived. The only one who even came close would be Moses, and even then Moses only saw God from behind in the cleft of the rock.
So this begs the question, what are these people seeing who claim to see God? The answer is obvious. They are seeing God in the form of flesh...or in other words....
1 Timothy 3:16
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
God appeared in the form of the "Angel of the Lord" in the old testament many times as well. Don't you remember Jacob was WRESTLING? That was flesh to flesh, face to face anyway you look at it!
This basic truth you are missing is the trinity.
God the father is the soul: Gen 2:7, 1 Thess 5:23, Gen 1:26....ect, which read.
God the Holy Spirit is a ghost: (no verses needed....you can't see spirits/ghosts obviously, just as you can't see the soul.)
God the Son: Which is Jesus Christ. The Son of God, who is 100% equal to God (John 10:30, Phil 2:16, John 5:46 )
Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by Akragon
The Holy Bible is always right. I am wrong more often than not!
This one just thinks hes always right, which anyone can easily prove otherwise
Not so sure about that either....
All things are possible unto God my friend.
Your could is just as much speculation as mine. If Christians cannot fathom a world where God speaks directly to his children, not needing any book, then I suppose they will get the God they choose.
How about, a lot of the so-called history in the OT is myth, and the NT is right?
So are you right or is God right?
John 10:29
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
John 13:16
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him
John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I
Jesus was not God.... he says it himself. Or are you like the others in this thread on your side of this debate? Do you deny his words?
......my God man...do not post here any more Most people hold to the old testament being true and the new testament is the one that is false! I rarely here the other way around!
How about, a lot of the so-called history in the OT is myth, and the NT is right?
You should try hanging out with Christians.
Most people hold to the old testament being true and the new testament is the one that is false!
The main characters in myths are usually gods, supernatural heroes and humans.
As sacred stories, myths are often endorsed by rulers and priests and closely linked to religion or spirituality.
In the society in which it is told, a myth is usually regarded as a true account of the remote past.
Your other comments were not worth dealing with as they were your personal opinions.
You have to remember that Jesus was born as a man, in the flesh, and experienced the same emotions, desires, temptations and passions as we do.
Jesus is clearly just as much God as the Great I AM in Exodus. One in the same.
You know this because of the many times Jesus did claim equality with God.
Matter of fact...why do you think the Jews wanted Jesus dead....what crime did He comment that was so bad that they wanted Him dead
I"ll tell you as it appears the Pharisees had more Biblical sense than you do.
They wanted Jesus dead because Jesus called Himself....wait for it.................GOD!.
John 5:18
"Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself EQUAL with God."
Chew on that for a while. I have hundreds more!
I really am enjoying being back on topic! Thanks for having the courage (if not the intelligence) to ask some serious questions! I see bogo hasn't tried yet. Must be looking up some more words in his thesaurus
Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by Akragon
but...you didn't disprove anything I said...? You just placed more worthless opinions in this thread with too many opinions as it is. I don't understand your point? You didn't disprove a thing I wrote with scripture.
You didn't even come close. How can you even discusses Biblical matters if you obviously have no clue whatsoever as to what the scriptures are? I'm curious, what exactly do you think are the scriptures?