Israeli police will not face trial over death of Palestinian girl

Originally posted by backinblack

What country(s) did Israel invade to earn the title of invading force?

If illegal settlements are NOT an invasion then I don't know what is..
Once setup the settlements are then surrounded by exclusion zones and armed guards..

Strawman.

Again. What country did Israel invade?

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

Strawman.

Again. What country did Israel invade?

Strawman

How can a fact be a strawman?

Israel continues to illegally steal land for settlements and brings in troops to protect construction and the ongoing settlements once built..

If that's not an invasion then what is it ??

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

 

Strawman.

Again. What country did Israel invade?

Strawman

How can a fact be a strawman?

Israel continues to illegally steal land for settlements and brings in troops to protect construction and the ongoing settlements once built..

If that's not an invasion then what is it ??

It is a strawman because you are not answering my question. You are putting up a defense that has nothing to do with the question.

A third time, but I will make it easy for you. What country did Israel invade and steal land from by building up settlements?

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

What country did Israel invade and steal land from by building up settlements?

To people who do not belong nor are owned by governments;

The entering and forcing out of homes, with jail time or death as a result for not following the orders of mercenaries wearing soldier outfits - is as an invasion. I don't care if it's a country or a home being raided - when people are forced out of their homes with violence with death or jail time as a result for disobeying.

It would seem however that you are the one building straw men(notice the plural) to avoid answering this question or addressing this fact. (the one written above about the settlers and their ways of dealing with people who don't wish to leave their homes).

The straw man you employ in this instance is by claiming there is no country being invaded. Why? Because you as a person do not recognize Palestine as a country and neither does the Israeli regime.

Take good notice of these tactics people, they use it on the internet, on tv, in newspapers...everywhere. The same tactics and arguments are used when they have to avoid talking about an issue; for instance, this guy avoids the argument about the invasion and tries to get away using semantics.

Deny ignorance.

Yeah, sad tactics IMO..Semantics rather than facts..

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by backinblack


I predict that certain posters will disappear.

last i heard, palistine is not a COUNTRY.

or a people.

reply to post by fooks

last i heard, palistine is not a COUNTRY.

or a people.

You know, last time I asked I didn't get a response. How much are you receiving in financial incentives to continue posting such obvious troll comments? Or are you doing it from a purely idealistic, albeit delusional, viewpoint?

I just wonder how long more the mods will let you keep doing what you do. It's obvious to me, as well as to some other posters that you are...how do I put it...not posting your own opinion but an opinion you get through the electronic mail.

Originally posted by hxc408
reply to post by gem_man

 

Oh my God, the world isn't a perfect place? I have a good idea, let's smear Israel even though it offers the best living conditions and personal freedoms to it's people in the entire middle east. If you want to talk about gross injustices please go to the rest of the middle eastern and African countries that are controlled by sharia law. This link might open your eyes
Rape victim

And these things happen all the time under sharia law LEGALLY. You're ignorance really should be a crime and as you try to make Israel out to be the bad guy they are surrounded by barbarians like this. So yea, let's hate the most democratic and free state in the middle east that actually offers it's people great oppurtunities and living conditions so we can have another extreme Islamic state that will offer nothing more than more violence and slums. Great idea!

My God man, what does ANY of that have to do with letting a murderer walk? We are not discussing what has happened in other countries. This thread is specific to the topic of the murderer of a young girl not receiving any punishment. Not even a trial! Who cares what his nationalality is. He is a killer and deserves punishment.

Stay on topic.

Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

 

What country did Israel invade and steal land from by building up settlements?

To people who do not belong nor are owned by governments;

That is not an answer. Everyone has a government, whether they like it or not.

The entering and forcing out of homes, with jail time or death as a result for not following the orders of mercenaries wearing soldier outfits - is as an invasion. I don't care if it's a country or a home being raided - when people are forced out of their homes with violence with death or jail time as a result for disobeying.

Either way, someone has to own something. So who owns the land?

It would seem however that you are the one building straw men(notice the plural) to avoid answering this question or addressing this fact. (the one written above about the settlers and their ways of dealing with people who don't wish to leave their homes).

No straw men here. I am not the one who can't answer questions without beating around bushes. You two seem pretty good at that,

The straw man you employ in this instance is by claiming there is no country being invaded. Why? Because you as a person do not recognize Palestine as a country and neither does the Israeli regime.

You assume much. That, actually, was NOT where I was going.

Take good notice of these tactics people, they use it on the internet, on tv, in newspapers...everywhere. The same tactics and arguments are used when they have to avoid talking about an issue; for instance, this guy avoids the argument about the invasion and tries to get away using semantics.

Deny ignorance.

Deny ignorance indeed. And with all that blathering, you have failed to give a legitimate answer.

Semantics? No semantics here, I want honesty. So will you provide, or will you join in on beating around the bush?

Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by fooks

 

last i heard, palistine is not a COUNTRY.

or a people.

You know, last time I asked I didn't get a response. How much are you receiving in financial incentives to continue posting such obvious troll comments? Or are you doing it from a purely idealistic, albeit delusional, viewpoint?

I just wonder how long more the mods will let you keep doing what you do. It's obvious to me, as well as to some other posters that you are...how do I put it...not posting your own opinion but an opinion you get through the electronic mail.

ask yourself the same question.

how bout that?

you probably get more than i do, dude.

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh


It's great you assume I'm an idiot while you're posting in a thread about the murder of a young girl and the letting go and walking free of her murderer, about how Palestine is not a country and it certainly is not being invaded In fact, it is the very first and ONLY sentence you post in this thread. It shows what you are here to do, and it most certainly is not to deny ignorance.

Semantics? No semantics here, I want honesty. So will you provide, or will you join in on beating around the bush?

Not semantics??

Many consider it the Palestinian territories.
Some actually DO consider it a country..

It does NOT alter one thing that I said merely because YOU do not recognize Palestine as a country..

Who really has the right to decide what is and isn't a country anyway??

Now argue the important parts of the debate..
Not this crap...

Originally posted by backinblack
Yeah, sad tactics IMO..Semantics rather than facts..

en.wikipedia.org...

Yay. Now we are getting somewhere.

Although, by strict definition, and since your buddy up there brought it up . . . in international politics, a territory is a non-sovereign geographic area which has come under the authority of another government; which has not been granted the powers of self-government normally devolved to secondary territorial divisions; or both.

i.e. It is not a country. But we will roll with it.


So when was this country called Palestinian Territory founded, and what are it's borders?

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

That is not an answer.

There will never be a need for me to answer to people like you.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

It is a strawman because you are not answering my question. You are putting up a defense that has nothing to do with the question.

You are the one asking questions that have nothing to do with the original OP.
SO,,,,,,,,,, I have a question for you.
Why do you think it is ok to kill a palistinian child?

A third time, but I will make it easy for you. What country did Israel invade and steal land from by building up settlements?

Are you that stupid that you really need to ask this
But after reading your posts, well,,, i would have to answer my own question and say,,,,, yes, you are that stupid

reply to post by Zamini


I was actually responding to backinblack. So blame him for going off track. He brought it up.

Never called you an idiot, by the way. I just said you blather.

reply to post by backinblack


Why did it take you so many posts to answer, then.

You were thinking too far ahead in the chess game, my friend.

Time to stop feeding the TROLLS..

Yes, I called Palestine a country and yes, many people agree with that..

But who the hell cares?
It doesn't alter the debate..
It's just a frekin title.
The place, whatever the hell you wish to call it, is still there and being invaded..

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh


During the June-1967 war Israel seized land from Egypt (which it later retreated from), Syria and Jordan. The land which it seized from Jordan has long been recognized by many as the Palestinian territories. So are you denying there is an occupation now?