Where do the loyalties of Israeli /American dual citizens lie?

reply to post by buster2010


Well pal, my loyalties are to the Commonwealth of Nations, Israel and all it's allies.

So shove that up where the sun don't shine.

Good question. Honestly, though, the U.S. and Israel are so ridiculously tight knit that it probably doesn't really matter.

If the world countries were to suddenly become humanoid, the U.S. and Israel would be lovers.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by buster2010

 

Well pal, my loyalties are to the Commonwealth of Nations, Israel and all it's allies.

So shove that up where the sun don't shine.

What the hell is "the commonwealth of nations"? Is that what the zionists are calling it these days?

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by buster2010

 

Well pal, my loyalties are to the Commonwealth of Nations, Israel and all it's allies.

So shove that up where the sun don't shine.

Well goody for you. If you didn't like my comment then I guess you wouldn't like what I have to say about what can be done with the ADL and AIPAC. These groups should be driven out of this country.

Israel is like the Salt Lake City of the middle east. If all hell breaks loose Iran will reduce it to a smoldering parking lot. If it where up to the people of the USA Israel would get 0$ of our tax dollars, then it would have to fend for itself instead of sucking off the American tax payer for their weapons and defense projects.

reply to post by discharged77


Jeeze you don't know much about the world do you!

The Commonweath of Nations = en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by discharged77


If thats the case then I suggest you stay away from your doctors and you ought to turn off your plasma TVs and shut down your internet and turn off your computer, because without Israel's technology, none of those things would work.

But because you are a bigot, my bet is you can't go without your computer for one single day!

My feeling is that there should be no dual citizenship period, you pick one or the other. The fact of the matter is the USA gives israel billions of dollars a year and it is going to stop. We dont have enough money to take care of our own right now, so how long do you think the gravy train is going to last? Not much longer,,,and then what? Do you think that they will still be land grabbing and building more settlements? Doubt it..

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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by discharged77

 

Turn off your computer.....and throw it in the bin. You hate us but you want our technology. So which way is it going to be pal?

Listen bud, do not put words in my mouth, I never said I hated anyone, its the israeli government that I dont like. If you side with their stance on things then YES I disagree with you, but not hate. I have no idea what in the hell you are talking about as far as technology goes?

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how do Americans obtain Israeli "citizenship" ?

Is there a criteria or requirements set by Israel ?

we know the U.S. stance from this

travel.state.gov...

Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.[color=limegreen]The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship. Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.

you honestly think if war was declared, someone like wolfowitz, the architect of the war against iraq, who has a sister living in israel, would support bombing tel aviv, were she lives.

the only reason there isn't peace in the middle east is because the majority of jews in powerful positions are friends with, do business with and support with major american politicians.

notice how cnn never publishes a poll or survey of average grass root americans if they support israels policy against the palestinians. why, because easy over 60% of good, decent hard working amercans would vote that they don't agree with that policy.

I don't personally know where the loyalties of dual citizens, Israeli Americans lie, but I feel that we have no place in government for such dual type citizens. I will elaborate on my thoughts regarding dual citizenship to make my point.

Being loyal to a single nation is desired and to have dual citizenship is to me like a man having two wives. How can such a man with two wives be loyal to both? It don't think in reality that anyone of a dual citizenship can be loyal to America in the manner that a full citizen would be.

While this dual citizenship status among Israeli's has grown out of control over time, I feel that anyone who is in a dual citizenship status should not be allowed to serve or hold any elected position, or any local, state or federal service job and or be allowed to CEO any company that does business with the federal government while in a dual citizenship status.

Dual citizens should not be allowed to serve in any type of media news capacity because of course I feel that as a citizen, preference for these key jobs should be to only Americans and not some dual citizen looking to join the current trend of getting over on America at Americas expense.

Dual citizens should also be in my opinion excluded from serving in the military services which to my knowledge has never been an issue, but I find it personally insulting to find that an Israeli dual citizen will serve in the IDF but wont serve in the US military while supporting or writing legislation to send Americans into war.

Dual citizenship is perhaps something that the common and newly arriving citizen could use until a determination is made of what permanent citizenship will be pursued, but to allow dual citizenship and continue to allow those in such a status to run our nation, our congress, our senate, our state and federal offices of authority and more over the allowed use of dual citizens in our intelligence community should all be forbidden to dual citizenship status. In fact I would not issue a security clearance to any dual citizen until they became Americans first and only.

Either become an American full time or not at all. These dual citizens should not be allowed to continue abusing a government system that has gotten out of control and which has allowed too many dual citizens into our system of government and positions of authority over American citizens.

We have too many dual citizens acting in the best interests of Israel and too many Americans see this fact and yet say nothing because of course to acknowledge the truth of this matter probably will generate the typical Jewish response of being anti-Semitic, when in reality, antisemitism has nothing to do with requiring only loyal American citizens to hold office or represent the American public.

While my observation and opinion on this matter may not endear me to the Israeli's, if the shoe where on the other foot and Israel found itself being governed and controlled in every aspect of their daily lives by only American Jewish dual citizens running the government and all aspects of society, I am certain that Israel would not tolerate such Americans coming into Israel and controlling by undermining Israel in their every daily function while in some dual citizenship status.

These thoughts are not in any way intended to demean the dual citizen, but in my honest opinion, we have seen what damage dual citizens from Israel have done to our government, science, medicine, music industry, movie industry and the entire intelligence and military industrial complex. Israelis are for Israel first and America is left to pay for the bills and the systemic corruption, as such America usually gets the world blame for supporting Israeli dual citizens in their one sided globalist plans to benefit Israel and no one else.

My solution is to forbid dual citizens from holding any elected office and from any position that must serve the needs of Americans first. While this idea may not be embraced by those current dual citizens, I remind you that a dual citizen can no more be loyal to America while in such a status than a man with two wives.

Make a choice where you seek to live and die and then live by that choice. At present, Israeli's have shown that such a dual citizenship status only works for Israel and that is not what is best for America.

Stop the outsider dual citizens from being allowed inside the government and I have no doubt we would see an overall improvement in what America does and why it does so. We might even save billions in dollars that are currently spent on Israel and the Israeli programs that get funded and payed for by American tax payers to the detriment of American interests abroad.

Americans first, all others should stop pretending to be loyal Americans while claiming dual citizenship because as I see it, it would be a lie to state that they are loyal to America when we can see that their historical actions in America while in such a dual status say otherwise. Dual citizenship is wrong and detrimental to America.

Make a choice and live by it or else go back to where you came from, but don't pretend to be a loyal American because only a full American should be allowed the benefits of America. All others should be made to make a decision or be deported to where they came from. That's how I see it and that is what I feel would benefit this nation.

Thank your for considering these thoughts on the status of dual citizenship.

That's a great point about there being a clear conflict of interest at work with politicians that have dual-citizenship, especially considering that the country in question is Israel, which is a very divisive country at the moment with people in the US.

But the bigger picture is WHY are there so many politicians in high office that share dual-citizenship with Israel? The Jewish population in America is at most .5%. It defies all odds and it really makes no sense unless certain conspiracy theories in regards to Israel are true. How else can anyone explain it?