There Will Be No Galactic Alignment in 2012

Time to start looking for terrible events that happened on those dates.... all of them.

Anything will do. Earthquake, tidal wave, volcano, someone shot, slow news day, terrorist attack.

Pretty sure these alignments are significant. Of course mathematically they are totally insignificant from a gravitational perspective. But never let science ruin a good story.

Still a bit concerned that horrible events happen even when there aren't any alignments. Maybe we should look at the fibs. You know, if we have a 61.8% alignment and the like. Make the whole sport really mathematical.

Thanks for being the voice of reason Phage. This 2012 stuff is just stealing money from suckers. I was talking to a friend at work and he was talking about 2012 and I was smirking the whole time. Well I jumped onto the Wikipedia and I was reading about 2012 and there was a list of event for that year...

So I get to one event and I let out a -GASP- and I said, "do you know whats going to happen on 12-25-2012?!" and my co-worker got all serious and said "what?" and I said "Christmas!"

Phage is this post even legal ? I mean, no death, no doom, no planetoids run amuck ? What about stars and flags ? Oh FnS by the way. This is akin to a symbolic slap in the face and jerking a toy away from a kid
whose to big to have it. You meany.




There are a lot of propagated lies being thrown at the public. I'm for ATS and it's experts. People should listen to reason and not argue if they're not with the expertise to do so. I get pretty bent in my profession when a rookie
try's to reinvent the wheel.

reply to post by iamusic


Great post, the Mayans never said anything about Apocalypse or end of the world but there it is. If nothing else these flares will knock out ALL electricity and electrical devices, sounds like apocalypse to our culture who depend on these devices almost exclusively. This cycle was repeated back in the 18th century but we didn't depend on electricity as we do today. Robert Anton Wilson wrote that scientists fed info into a computer about Tofler's Future Shock (The acceleration of technology & knowledge) and found 2012 to be date of reaching critical mass. Either we with save ourselves and the planet or utterly destroy it. Something's got to give. See any signs, anyone? Climate change? Solar flare cycles? Social unrest threatening governments? Food shortages? Fresh water shortage? World economies? Texas, Arizona, Colorado, etc bursting into flames? Super tornadoes? Super hurricanes? These solar flares predicted will trigger Super volcanoes of which I'm sure will take me out since I am close to Yellowstone. My money is with what Agartala said about reality being an illusion or hologram, Quantum mechanics, molecules vibrating, frequencies, etc. Open your minds your brains won't fall out like Christianity would have you believe. You can always return to your regular scheduled DOGMA anytime you'd like. Take a look at the writings of Zachariah Sitichin if you want more background on where the Olmecs and Mayans come from. You folks who discount ALL of his books because of his interpretation of ONE word, Shem can leave your DOGMA behind too because he answers more of the mysteries of the Sumerians/Egyptians/Olmecs/Mayans than you ever could.

reply to post by Phage


I say let's wait and see. We are on an era of spiritual development and understanding our true meaning and location in the universe is to come. Alignment happens on a regular basis, alright, but I doubt a civilization would have been right since 16,4 billion years to finally say that the date of great changes would simply be a mistake ... I don't think so. Either way bunker or debunker we will all need to wait and see because everything is relative and we ain't no Nostradamus out there.


Thruthseek3r

Photon Belts....God...Creator....Stargates...."Dark Matter"...Consciousness...Dimensions...Other Universes...


these Human eyes can not see ALL there is, although when you are ascending with all of your DNA activated you will see more than now...


Truth is Truth


you can deny the Truth, but it is still there...


galactic alignments do not matter to me, it's all about consciousness....love and light


everyone will be where they desire to be consciously or sub consciously...karma, law of attraction, frequency/vibration....very complex and simple at the same time...

i am ascending and will ascend when the time is right for me...maybe 2012, i am ready for utopia here on earth....we deserve it and so it shall be..thank you

use your intuition...

we all are of/from God, we all are brothers and sisters on the soul level...

where you go and who you are is up to you

thank you

hugs

reply to post by thruthseek3r

Stellarium doesn't show spiritual development (ah, if only...). It shows where the stars and Sun were and will be. It shows the talk about a galactic alignment is nonsense.

reply to post by Phage


"There Will Be No Galactic Alignment in 2012.

At least not one that doesn't happen on a regular basis. It's claimed that on December 21, 2012 a very rare event will occur; the Sun will "align" with the center of the Milky Way galaxy causing...something to happen. The trouble is, it is not a rare event. It happens every year. "


ITS CLAIMED ?

Who claim that ??

What are you taking about here, I have heard about such claims but they are NOT very uniform so you need to give a source.

Are you a 10 year old ? Do you know how to write ? You need to work on INTRODUCTIONS, ESSAY FORMAT, just take a basic writing class, grammar schools have night classes for foreign language speakers but they also work on English fundaments for people that need it, this would be right up your alley.

If you EVER progress to the level required in your skills and believe me it WILL take YEARS try reading a few scientific papers in the top science journals like the one called, NATURE.

I would HOPE that you would notice how EVERYTHING said in each paper is referenced to another source usually of higher authority or, more scholarly, when introducing their work and substantiating findings.

For instance here you use this software, your findings are TOTALLY dependent on this piece software that generates your conclusion, YOU DON'T GENERATE THOSE CONCLUSIONS, I am sure YOU have no clue as to how to do that, BUT YOU DON'T EVEN REFERENCE THAT SOFTWARE.

Please go back to school you NEED to do a lot of work on yourself.

This is all I have to say, please don't take offense, just a little piece of friendly advice from an elder.

I won't comment in your threads anymore beyond this, IT WOULD BE EMBARRASSING FOR EVERYONE.

AND please DO NOT bother with my threads or comment in them as I am SURE you would not be interested, I include a LOT of references and fine little details and points so YOU WOULD JUST BE EXTREMELY CONFUSED it would NOT be FUN for you !!!


Thank you

reply to post by MACchine

Unfortunately, I am not the topic of the thread.
Do you have anything to contribute? Something to refute? Something to support?

Great thread Phage, when you talk people listen on this site. I still think with all the classified government activity going on that the whole 2012 doomsday stuff is going to be hiped up even more and used as a ruse for what ever power grab those in control are planning. Like de-population, better for them if a "natural" event did the dirty work.

What???

A thread about planets that aren't going to kill us all in 2012???

I feel hard done by......

Couldn't you be wrong??

You must of missed summet..... There has to be some thing out there that is
On course to wipe us out???

That other fella's YouTube vids were so convincing... and tied in nicely
With the Fab Four breaking up..... lol

No??..... Nowt out there??

So it's just calendar that finishes next year then???

Sorted.

reply to post by MACchine


The alignment theory has been mainly popularized by John Major Jenkins, but pretty much every 2012 writer has broached on it at one point or another. It probably started with Arguelles, but currently is a concept more associated with Jenkins than anyone else. Considering how much research you have claimed to do on this topic I'm surprised you've never heard of Jenkins or Arguelles as they are the two that originally brought the 2012 date into the public consciousness.

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I posed two questions to you on page 1 post 6. As they were not addressed I posted a sarcastic thank you on page 4 post 7 and that still did not get you to even address my questions. Here it is page 7 post 13 and still no reply. With this I will assume that my information is correct and that you have no Idea what you are talking about. Please don't bother replying as your opinion no longer means anything to me. Flag removed.

Originally posted by MACchine
"There Will Be No Galactic Alignment in 2012.

At least not one that doesn't happen on a regular basis. It's claimed that on December 21, 2012 a very rare event will occur; the Sun will "align" with the center of the Milky Way galaxy causing...something to happen. The trouble is, it is not a rare event. It happens every year. "


ITS CLAIMED ?

Who claim that ??

What are you taking about here, I have heard about such claims but they are NOT very uniform so you need to give a source.

I was wondering the same thing...

If 2012 is going to be a bust, I am going to be so disappointed.

You need a perfect alignment to get a hole in one. Not saaying that this happens every year. Maybe in 2012 that extra millimeter of approx distance to the galaxy center will be the hole in one. who knows, it is only a year away

1. Are you aware of technology that allows us to see the sky on December 21, 2012? This alone should debunk your argument.



2. To understand the Galactic Alignment, you have to understand why it's happening and what information can be given from it's occurrence. The last time this happened was during the end of the last Ice Age, yes, 25,920 years ago. Seems that was a huge ending, wasn't it? Now, the 25,920 years it takes for each zodiac sign to complete it's age always comes to an end in the event of a Galactic Alignment. That is when the center of the Milky Way Galaxy is eclipsed by the Sun, an extremely rare and scary occurrence. Each age takes 2,160 years to complete its day in the Sun. Our current age, Pisces is a weak age in my opinion. Atlantis was in the age of Leo, and from my understanding the world must have been created during the age of Taurus. If you know anything about the of precision the equinoxes you will know that we are moving backwards in the Zodiac. So at the end of our current age, we will move into the age of the 11th sign, since we are currently in the 12th. In astrology there is something called the four angles: The ASC, IC, DSC, and MC which represent the self, roots of self, partner, and professional standing. These 4 fundamental energies govern everyones life everyday, just in different ways and completely different energies. I'm able to read this stuff fairly easily when it comes to reading birth charts of people or events... And from evaluating the very fact that we are currently in the age of Pisces, and given my knowledge of eclipses and what they represent, and given the fact that the Galactic Alignment last happened 25,920 years ago corresponding with an ending to a great cosmic cycle, I'm able to determine that the creation of the world happened during the Age of Taurus because you see, if the age we are moving into is Aquarius, that means Aquarius must be a sign on the MC in the birth chart of the creation of the world. That means the ages or houses are just the same thing as your houses in your birth chart except of a smaller scale. These ages are the houses in the world's birth chart! So, when an eclipse happens to your MC big changes occur and the age of Aquarius; what a grand age it will be! Now, I've researched when scientists or anthropologists think the age of Aquarius will begin and it seems they don't think for a hundred years or so... wrong, wrong, wrong. The GA is all the proof I need to prove it. The only time we see the Sun being eclipsed by the center of the milky way galaxy is when 25,920 years have passed because that is just how the cycle is. It's called the precession of the Equinoxes. I will say however, that the 13th Zodiac sign is highly mysterious to me. If it exists, it should be given an age as well, correct? This would require more research.

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Phage I don't know if this question has been asked of you yet. Can you determine for us if Pluto has actually
turned red ?

Stellarium doesn't show spiritual development

Oh my God that's to funny.

Phage is not comprehending what it is that is supposed to happen on 21 December 2012. Phage is correct that the Sun eclipses the Galactium Zentrum each year as we orbit around the Sun. This means that our Solar System is very affected by the gravity field that sits at the centre of the Milkyway Galaxy. The PLANE OF THE ECLIPTIC in which all the planets of our entire Solar System are orbiting some how is aligned with the central hub of our Galaxy. That is a bit huge. Every 26,000 terrestrial years our Solar System oscillates above the ecliptic plane of the Milkyway Galaxy and then below the ecliptic plane of the Milkyway Galaxy. So a mere eclipse, something that occurs each year on 25 December, which is the real reason why we celebrate Christmas Day, is not the big deal. What is so special about this December 2012 eclipse of the Galactic hub is that simultaneously our Solar System is going to cross into and through the plane of the Galactic Ecliptic. Obviously this occurred twice every 26,000 years. For 13,000 terrestrial years we are above the plane of the Galactic ecliptic, and then for another 13,000 terrestrial years we are then below the plane of the Galactic ecliptic. There are some who are theorizing that there is a kind of force field inhabiting the plane of the Galactic ecliptic and that as we pass through it we will be buffeted by it. Personally I am not worried about this crossing the Galactic Plane as it is only of symbolic significance to those who want to see it as some kind of calibration point in their history or individual life span. We have many such calibration points in our calender that are related to events in the sky. Especially since agriculture requires that we understand the coming and going of the seasons as we as a planet orbit around the Sun. It is also theorized and in my opinion probably the truth that the 26,000 year oscillation is being caused by our Sun being in orbit around a Black Hole object, or at least a star that we are not being told about, although it might be in the charts. In other words we live in a binary star system. Phage has a comprehension that is good up to a point but is not yet the full comprehension. It is more complicated than he is thinking it to be. Science is full of such partial comprehensions. Also I notice that Phage has red hair. This indicates according to DNA research that some of his ancestores were of the Neanderthal Species by cross breeding. Perhaps this is the cause of his only partial comprehensions regarding very complex subject matter ? But that is not the subject of the thread. Did the Neanderthals have astronomy ? How far back do our astronomy observations go ? When and who were our first astronomers ? We know from archeology that the Stonehenge monument in the British Isles built cerca 3500 BC was a stellar observatory capable of predicting Lunar Eclipses according to the 52 year cycle there of. According to Zakaria Sitchin the ancient Sumarians in Mesopotamia had advanced astronomy even such that they knew about the outer planets Uranus and Neptune. So in this regard we should not be surprised if the Mayans knew things too.

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Wow, you are such a dis-info agent and a very hard person to convince of anything "not normal to mainstream".

If you saw an alien or Bigfoot for real, you probably wouldn't know how to react. You will most likely still deny they exist afterwards.