You Want Proof, ELEnin <-- Extinction, I'll Give You Proof -- You Can't Handle!!!

reply to post by randyvs


They are distant galaxies. The light from the visual spectrum was not bright enough to be seen from Earth. I don't have access to the full paper anymore, so I can't tell you the designations for the galaxies, but I know that Phage has it.

OP, why are you being such a jerk calling people lazy, etc. That leads me to believe you're full of crap.

reply to post by MACchine

There is certainly evidence to support the idea that they would give a politically correct answer as if you go to the Google news paper web site that I linked you to you can read many other news paper reports of the discovery and some quotes from the Profs from NASA saying, "WE DON'T WANT ANYONE GETTING EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS BODY IS VERY FAR AWAY !", so they were ALREADY trying to deflect TOO MANY GOOD QUESTIONS !

Now some papers NOTED that there was an uproar in the populous over this story, and soon afterwards they SAY IT WAS A MISTAKE, somehow they did not find anything, so wether it was a mistake or not you know politics took over the story right after it was released.

I have already demonstrated numerous times now that this is false. If you continue to espouse this fact you are knowingly spreading a falsehood which is forbidden on ATS. We prefer to deny ignorance here, but you are embracing it with open arms. Just in case you have somehow missed all of my posts showing this to be false, here is the thread I created on this very subject.

reply to post by granpabobby


To that, I woulkd like to add, that my wife hates cockroaches.

Crash
Ya ! I was going to mention that to OP as well. Without the ad-hominem. I'm sure OP feels the need to retaliate at some of the comments. Understandable. I also think OP put alot of time into bringing up a new issue to this topic. To which the only compensation are a fair amount of flags. W?E.

reply to post by MACchine


But we can trust you, right?

Even though you LOUDLY tell us what to THINK, how to ACT and even how to RESPOND to your THREAD.

Lets say you are right.

The Federal Government are liars? I'll buy that. After all, most of those in Congress, the President, and on the Supreme court are Lawyers, and that's close enough for me. So riddle me this: What is their end-game? What are they trying to accomplish? If the death star is approaching and we are facing extinction, what is the Fed planning for us that might be worse yet? How will they control their troops from underground bunkers? How will they maintain discipline above ground? What purpose does moving people to "Fema Camps" serve if we are facing destruction by Brown Dwarf Star?

Finally -- were YOU in charge, what would you do? Would you appear on TV and tell everyone they were all going to die soon? Would you appeal to the Pleidian High Command for more life-boats? Hand out shovels? Distribute suicide pills?

The problem with these kinds of threads is technology. If a comet or brown dwarf star were on a collision course with our planet, it would be visible in the sky from somewhere. Showing us evidence that the Federal Government keeps secrets, lies and manipulates data is one thing, but it does not logically follow that "Comet Elenin" is now a cover up because they do. Hell -- by that logic, one could argue that any proof showing our Federal government are liars "proves" the existence of the Easter Bunny, or any number of other silly beliefs and ideas.

If Elenin is incoming, and if it is the threat you believe it is, show us where we can see it for ourselves, either directly, or indirectly, through the perturbation of the Kuiper belt, the asteroid belt, or any one of the planets and / or their moons. Such evidence would be simple to confirm by anyone with access to a telescope. let's see it.

reply to post by randyvs

It's the Frosty Leonis Nebula. It's 3,000 light years away.
www.applewood-astro.com...
www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de...

Sorry I have never really followed this whole ELENIN/Niberu thing.
So what exactly does this mean.
Are we talking 2012 and Blue star Hopie thing.

Help a sista out and give me a clue.
And if this has anything to do with the Anunaki, grrrr

reply to post by MACchine

You are working with numbers that the NASA scientists posted with the original announcement of the discovery, right after the original discovery. I have heard from astronomers on talk show radio that it takes at least 6 months, and they prefer 9 months to a year of watching a new object to get its path in space.

This certainly makes sense as shooting a laser at it and then measuring the light coming back, a direct measurement, would require 8+ years if it were that far away. Triangulation, which is what I think they use can be done quickly but gets better with time A LOT OF TIME !

You have absolutely no idea how distance is measured in space, do you?

reply to post by Phage


Bink ! Not that Phage is a God ? Just, I can't remember him being wrong in his definitive statements as such. So now were getting somewhere. Thank you for the speedy rosponse Phage.

Mividau
Ok everyone ! One more time from the top.

reply to post by bjsmi2


can you give a link to the sumerian text being translated? would help me a lot
,thnx

You know, someone should really make a screenshot compilation of all of these Comet Elenin doomsday threads and posts, that way we be sure to remind the people who are propagating this nonsense when the Comet Elenin doomsday date comes and goes and they latch back onto the December 2012 date and start spouting 2012 end of the world nonsense again.

Another PSK writes a diatribe of BS this time linking Oliver North, an object 8 light years away , NIburu and Elenin.

Where were you when comic books started running out of material? Priceless.

This will all be over October/November, whenever they say the comet is supposed to arrive.

reply to post by bjsmi2


Totally agree. This was great reading through!

It's useless trying to get some people to see the truth.. takes a lot of energy.

Alright, so we keep on hearing on about this over and over and over again. Yet no one can say what coordinates its at. Or where it will be. Yet we can "plot" a path. Then where is it? Where are pics from ATS memebers, saying HERE IT IS!!! When we start getting people with their own telescopes looking, finding, then taking video or getting pictures. Then I will start to believe. This is turning into a 2012, Y2K thing. Fear is a Virus, catch it, it spreads faster then anything.

Some of you are just plain rude and don't know how to have civilized learning exchanges. Its obvious most of you aren't in touch with certain realties, but it's okay. Do not be rude about it, just accept that you don't know very much about the subject presented. As far as 2012 goes, I for one know for fact an ending is in store. I have studied since 2007. What have any of you 2012 skeptics done? I'm betting zero research, and zero thought.

reply to post by athenegoddess


People look for patterns in everything. Even when they arent there. Its how our brains are programmed, we look at things and try to connect them even when there isnt a connection.

reply to post by MidnightTide


Would love to think that will be the end of it but...from past history shows that there will always be A: another ELE just around the corner...B: some excuse that shows why they are not wrong and that the comet will turn around for another shot at us we just have to wait for it....C: they them selves thru posting the obvious truth forced TPTB (especially WHEN THEY USE ALL CAPS...it makes the TPTB really worried that someone will pay attention to them) to drive the comet off and postponing the ELE until another time which I am sure they will post another YouTube video that expalins it all and provides absoulute truth postive absoulutely that it will happen this time.

reply to post by DrakeDarc


Well, I have news for you. There is a connection. One connection, and I know it. That is all.

reply to post by athenegoddess


So you got some proof with this knowledge. Why dont you make a thread and put it all together for us people who dont know