NYPD Cops going at it after one assaults a handcuffed man **Video**

reply to post by CodexSinaiticus
Regarding the New Orleans case, we will see how that trial comes out. You might take into account that 5 NOPD officers have plead guilty and currently a witness is testifying that he watched a cop shoot one of his family members in the back with a shotgun. Another cop says he witnessed a fellow officer shooting wounded citizens after the rest of the officers involved had stopped shooting and were aware that there was no gunfire coming from the citizens.
You can back them up if you want.

People should respect the police, as they are just are mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, sisters and brothers. They are us, and are paid to do their jobs. 99% of them do it well and to it to the best of their abilities every day. They are there to protect and serve, and people should really respect the jobs they do.

reply to post by Newbomb Turk


I see two sides to this story.

But one thing I don't see right is people justifying this kind of behavior.

This guy was handcuffed...he was obviously no longer a threat. Now if these police officers can't subdue him in a less harmful way, they should not be on the force. Simple as that.

When you start justifying force like this when the guy is NO LONGER a threat, it is nothing short of insane. Maybe the guy had a mental problem or maybe he was telling the truth about being hurt. But even if he was lying there is no justification for treating him like that. Is making noise a criminal offence? I didn't think so. They can subdue that guy no problem without being so physical.

Originally posted by buttafuqua
People should respect the police, as they are just are mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, sisters and brothers. They are us, and are paid to do their jobs. 99% of them do it well and to it to the best of their abilities every day. They are there to protect and serve, and people should really respect the jobs they do.

Nonsense.

Respect is earned. If we don't respect the Police its because they have not earned it or have squandered the respect we originally credited to them. They have become militarized, aggressive, violent mobile extortion units. They have become part of the problem, rather than the solution.

Is that a generalization? Yes, just as much as your comments were. Except that mine is closer to the truth.

If they really were our 'fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers', or if they want to be seen that way then its time THEY started showing us the same consideration and respect that one would expect of family, rather than treating us like dirt.

reply to post by Manhater


The cop must have been doing something wrong for the other cop to push him away. and like YOU said we did't see what happened. maybe he did nothing at all.

Originally posted by buttafuqua
People should respect the police, as they are just are mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, sisters and brothers. They are us, and are paid to do their jobs. 99% of them do it well and to it to the best of their abilities every day. They are there to protect and serve, and people should really respect the jobs they do.

PS. What part of what you wrote could not have been written about NAZI Police and soldiers by patriotic Germans during WWII?

Thats right, none of it. They received the same kind of support, despite serving evil.

Your sentiments are meaningless.

To me watching the video confirms to me that everyone that seeks to serve the public as LEO or in political office should be screened for empathy. If they are found to have no empathy for their fellow humans then they need to not work for the public.

Those brutal individuals that just got the job because they like to dish out pain to others have got to be kept out of public service. The same goes for politicians. If they have no compassion for fellow humans then it is easy to order them to kill or be killed for the profit of corporations.

Police that are without the ability to feel for others are not able to show compassion and act far more aggressively than the situation often calls for.

Originally posted by Malcram

Originally posted by buttafuqua
People should respect the police, as they are just are mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, sisters and brothers. They are us, and are paid to do their jobs. 99% of them do it well and to it to the best of their abilities every day. They are there to protect and serve, and people should really respect the jobs they do.

Nonsense.

Respect is earned. If we don't respect the Police its because they have not earned it or have squandered the respect we originally credited to them. They have become militarized, aggressive, violent mobile extortion units. They have become part of the problem, rather than the solution.

Is that a generalization? Yes, just as much as your comments were. Except that mine is closer to the truth.

If they really were our 'fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers', or if they want to be seen that way then its time THEY started showing us the same consideration and respect that one would expect of family, rather than treating us like dirt.

edit on 6-7-2011 by Malcram because: (no reason given)

"They have become militarized"

This is a true statement, and post 911 most if not all police departments fall under the NIMS hierarchy. This is important, and should really be under another thread of it own but here goes. In substance prior to 911, each department had their own rules and procedures that they followed given the situation.

Under the pretext of streamlining response, and AUTHORITY, the feds offered municipalities millions of dollars to retrain their officers under the NIMS model. So what? Right? Why is this important?

Well, for the first time in history a representative from FEMA can step in and control any scene, anywhere in the country and be the sole authority in charge. There will be no argument, the officers have completed their reprogramming.

Oh, here is a link to NIMS: www.fema.gov...

reply to post by Manhater

4] I would of beat the guy up, just to shut his mouth. You have to admit he was annoying and the officer wasn't even doing anything.

So if you were a police officer and someone annoyed you .........you would beat them up?

You are taking me so out of context. I almost did go to the academy, but for medical reasons, I can't be in LE, but I do have a degree in it.

When you studied for your LE degree, is that what your tutor told you?......if an annoying member of the public annoyed you, you could beat them up?


Where exactly did you get your degree?

wow, you people get so worked up over little things. Done explaining myself. A sarcasm remark. geez louise.

Meh, that idiot was clearly resisting arrest. Yea he shouldnt be beat or anything, but the cop certainly has a right to be a little physical and force him to get up and get in the police car. You guys act like he was just standing there punching the guy, I didn't see any of that, looked to me like he was trying to drag the idiot actor to his feet is all. Wtf is he supposed to do? Just let the guy go because he refuses to get up and just yells and jumps on the ground over and over? O well you dont want to be arrested and you refuse to move? Ok sir, sorry youre free to go then.

In case anyone missed the police brutality video on page 1, it went something like this:

Come to think of it, I have NEVER seen a video like this, of one cop actually stopping another one from brutalizing someone. Regardless of whatever else was going on there, I defy anyone to find another video like this. I've seen plenty of videos of cops standing by doing nothing while other ones beat people, taze them, or even shoot them. There is only one reason he did this.

This video is from CopBlock. They have been aggressively going after cops with video cameras all over the place, trying to catch them doing bad stuff, and are getting too well known for the cops to think they can smash their cameras or arrest them for filming. It would be all over the place immediately. The cop knew who they were, and was telling the other one to chill out just because the camera guy was there, and he knew it would be all over youtube if they beat the guy up. That's why he goes towards him at the end trying to wave him away. Watch some of their other videos and you'll see what I mean.

Nevertheless, that guy was just screaming for no reason. Who knows what had happened to get him cuffed in the first place. I could understand wanting to just belt him to shut him up, or letting him accidentally bash his head on the car roof as he is tossed in the back. However, cops aren't supposed to actually do that, you know. But this video is otherwise kind of meaningless. It does show that the cops are starting to get the idea about CopBlock.

Could it be that the cop that was stepping in was concerned about being video taped so he wanted to make sure it didn't look like he was part of the arrest? I'm sure a lot of police are being warned about using excessive force because of all the bad cop videos on YouTube. Maybe this good cop doesn't want to risk losing his job or possibly get a suspension.

As far as the video goes, it doesn't show why this guy was getting arrested. I would be concerned that some "real violent criminals" will now want to play up to someone video taping their arrest in hopes of claiming police abuse. There's really just not enough video to make a judgement call on this. The guy refused to stand up, why?

reply to post by Newbomb Turk


The real reason he told him to back off is that the guy was to combattive and to big.. the cop telling the other cop to stop had called for backup and was most likely awaiting that backup. Just one of them would have hurt him or themselves. The both of them they risk loosing control of the situation and there is no one to watch their backs. So the cop, who probably has more experience and intelligence than the other told him to stop being a moron trying to pick that dude up by himself. It's one of those situations when you're dealing with someone that's probably mentally challenged and beating them doesn't help the situation. But indeed, good cop, he could have just watched as his partner beat the crap out of him, hurt himself, or broke the perps wrist.

reply to post by ghondon


I didn't see it that way. It looked like he noticed him way before the end, he only told him to piss off after he tried talking to the dude on the floor a few times. He then was skirting the thin line of obstruction, I think he didn't want him to get in trouble so told him to go.

Maybe the cuffed guy was scared, the NYPD are real pricks, I can attest to that. Maybe the reason he was so upset is because he has been beaten by the thug squad before. It's really not far fetched, if you have come across these "people" in the wrong neighborhood, you get treated like dirt. They know people in the hood can't afford no liar to sue.

Welcome to NYC, the cops are down to Earth, they've most likely seen everything.
True New Yorkers for you.

Originally posted by mb2591
Nice but that guy was being a little over dramatic for real.

Is this the only video? Because many of you people need to watch the video again.
The video starts with the man making a commotion as if something happened to him prior to being filmed.
Ask yourself, what would compel the bystander to start filming? Maybe he or she wanted to document what they saw as escalating police brutality. This is why the other cop decides to step in, he probably had seen enough of the abuse himself as well.

All Im saying is we saw two minutes of an event that for sure had a history before being documented on film.

reply to post by Newbomb Turk


But right at the end the "good cop" comes over to tell the guy filming that he can't do it, at which point the video ends.

We have no context here, so it is hard to say why the "good cop" is stopping the "bad cop" from doing what he was doing. We can assume it's because of his force.

I'm not one to dismiss these videos wholesale, by the way, I'm just sayin'...

reply to post by FoosM


Yes your probably right but at the end there he was being over dramatic and making the cop use more force because he was refusing to get up/hold himself up.