ATS Reality: CoIntelPro, Shills, Freemasons, and Socks: The Definitive Guide

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Free expression is not free speech. If topics are banned then the site is controlled. Very simple to understand. All sites are controlled. If the truth threatens the establishment then the topic will be banned.

reply to post by Societalgnorance


Your concern has been addressed as thoroughly as it can be. You need to recognize when it's time to Drop It. The time is Now.

reply to post by yeahright


I realize that. That's why I just went back and edited my post.

Sometimes I don't know when to stop, especially when I feel like my point is being misunderstood.

:::back to your regularly scheduled programming:::

Originally posted by Buford2
Free expression is not free speech.

Back to this question, what topics do you feel need to be added on ATS?

Click here for more information.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord



I have no problem with your site or others like it. We both know that things cannot be discussed because of heat from the top. As far as Cointelpro, shills and socks they actually keep people interested in topics. They make people digg more for the truth. I love to see them around stirring the pot. They are on many sites so dont feel upset when one shows up here or when people point them out. Be good Skeptic.

Lets take a look at an IQ chart please.

Yeah, its kinda relevant

Notice the Bell Curve as the seemingly "dullest" make up a small percentage at the left side while those with average IQ make up the majority which is represented by a huge bulge in the middle and then down again on the right side it slowly tapers off as the IQ gets higher.

Millions of hits per month?

Lady Gaga' latest single gets millions of hits per month.
Don't bite my finger charlie gets millions of hits
2 girls and one cup gets millions of hits probably daily...
casey anthony found innocent gets hundreds of millions of hits in 24 hours... need I go on?

The "bulge" is your target audience and just like TPTB would have it, you have made a nice little sanitized sandbox for them to play in...

I find little fault in what you are saying S.O.
I said "little" not "no/none"...

It is like John Stewart from the daily show... or should I say "Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz"
It is what he does not say which may be the most important.

That Jon Stewart' brother is a big wig on Wall Street, that he is more then likely a Zionist etc etc...

Now, what did you not say S.O?

You completely avoided the DRUG ISSUE.

A massive global conspiracy both BIG PHARMA, BIG TOBACCO, BIG ALCOHOL and "Illegal" street drugs involving perhaps every alphabet agency ever conceived.

Would the government TPTB want that? Of course they would...

None! Nein! Nada! No one would have an even close to complete worldview without the knowledge of the massive global "illegal" or "illicit" drug conspiracy...

Your "weed" thread or should I say your "weed" excuse is a feeble one indeed and not truly worthy of discussion here and now although I can rip it a new lil' poopie hole anytime you feel it is neccessary...

You also avoid the discussion on PROFANITY yet as one poster pointed out " we are all adults here" and if we took all those "curse" words one at a time, examined the etymology, studied how language is always in flux, notice how over time good becomes bad and vice versa, uphold the mantra told to us by our parents namely "sticks and stones can break my bones but words will never hurt me" etc etc et al... we would come to find that by avoiding profanity we are creating a very false reality as people have been using slang since words were invented and sooner or later the slang becomes accepted usually precipitated when some "white" guy writes the word in his "book" and over time it is no longer considered slang...

I suppose we must also use our salad forks, keep our elbows off the table, slowly sip our soup and try not to let rip a huge Fart when dining with the King as well?

Civility... is this what your ancestors had as they traveled west, a they kept not one treaty, as they slaughtered indigenous peoples... civility yeah?

No, that is what they said seperated them from the indigenous peoples who they had slaughtered.
That is what they use to justify the enslavement of those deemed "lesser" etc etc...

Robert the Bruce may be written up and held by modern Scot's as a hero but he was a traitor to his people previously and ultimately he and the rest of the nobles sold us out...
Yes, I said "us" as you are not alone "highlander" and you probably have no idea just how many of us remain who know what truly happened.

Back on point...

Is ATS controlled by the .gov?

It certainly seems like the mentality behind ATS is at the very least Mind Controlled by TPTB, wether they like it our not as they are attempting to take subject matter that requires critical thinking and is thus generally not very appealing to the "masses" incapable of critical thinking and trying to make it appeal to the Doped Up, Dumbed Downed, Indoctrinated masses and all the while sanitize this little cyber world from the reality of the real world where alot of people use "curse words" and where alot of people "do drugs" including Alcohol....

A fake world where people can be often heard uttering the phrase "Alcohol and Drugs" with complete confidence...

As if it is is ultra important to make a safe play place for the masses or to disseminate information that most of them could never fully understand etc etc..... no.... thats a huge demographic that does alot of clicking..... is the real deal, when they are not playing Farmville, Cityville or some other "click to play" pyramid scheme that is...

Odd as this is the exact definition of profanity that I subscribe to... teaching subject matter to those who could never fully understand it or who would surely go on to pervert it, subvert and/or manipulate it for their own benefit...

On the other hand, if you want to control CT then you would become CT...wouldnt you now?
You would strive to become The DEFINITIVE SOURCE of CT for that matter... wouldnt you now?

Now, laying government control aside...... you have suceeded in creating a nicely sanitized place where the squishy headed kids can play SAFELY and the slightly above average kids can constantly baffle them with BS... Bravo

Try not to get so upset, its only BUSINESS... and with all this 2012 stuff going on, the history channel in full doomer mode, ideas like peak oil etc etc gaining momentum, the economy seemingly collapsing etc etc et al.... Business must good, no?

There... lil fella, I gave you an easy out as from watching closely I notice how you do so enjoy making a quick get away, cherry picking what you think is the least defendable easily attackable comment, reply to a question with more questions and otherwise avoid the "meat" of the discussion and then bolting.

Heck, just act like the poster is "crazy" or "in need of meds/doctors attention" or "an anti semite" yeah! thats the ticket!

Lastly, for any of you who enjoy believing that what all people say online would never come from their lips in real life... Yeah... you are right! Those people are just TROLLS, nothing to see here, back to your farmville/cityville real world...

reply to post by Buford2


Would you care to explain and expand upon your comment "heat from the top" for the rest of the class please?
Apologizes as no one dictates what goes on here but S.O. and the other Kings and he has pointed that out repeatedly so are you suggesting otherwise? That there is some other "TOP" besides the bottom line $$$???

reply to post by yeahright


Comments like these...
Such an AUTHORITARIAN tone.
So bluntly put as if spoken by someone who is not use to having their authority questioned.

Just an observation.
An observation by someone with more life experience in their little toe then in most peoples entire family history...is all.....hard to be humble and dont call it bragging when it is the truth....

Originally posted by Buford2
We both know that things cannot be discussed because of heat from the top.

Heat form the top? Seriously?

Out with it, don't be coy and beat around bushes. What topics are you referring to?

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Drugs, both big pharma and the ongoing war on drugs aka war on peoples rights...
Oh sorry, not my question?
Thats how it goes usually

Naw, naw... lets pretend that 70/80% of the people here are not using either BIG PHARMA poison or street drugs or both.
Lets pretend that no one does drugs and that it isnt a problem and that legalization and decriminilization wouldnt solve many of the problems associated with the epic failure known as the War on drugs and lets do all this so some government employee can login to ATS while they are at work...

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by Buford2
We both know that things cannot be discussed because of heat from the top.

Heat form the top? Seriously?

Out with it, don't be coy and beat around bushes. What topics are you referring to?

Yeah! What the bald headed guy wearing his underwear on the outside proclaiming hs is not COINTELPRO said!

Originally posted by OverMan
Millions of hits per month?

In so far as "hits," it's closer to half-a-billion a month.

You completely avoided the DRUG ISSUE.
A massive global conspiracy both BIG PHARMA, BIG TOBACCO, BIG ALCOHOL and "Illegal" street drugs involving perhaps every alphabet agency ever conceived.

And we have a members-only forum where all members are free to discuss all of the conspiracies (of which there are many) related to drugs, drug trafficking, the war on drugs, and the wars for drugs.

You also avoid the discussion on PROFANITY

No I don't. Whenever the discussion of profanity/vulgarities on ATS comes up, I always say we don't allow it. The reasons have long been clear.

Robert the Bruce may be written up and held by modern Scot's as a hero but he was a traitor to his people previously and ultimately he and the rest of the nobles sold us out.

Tell me about it. The first namesake in our family (or at least as far back as can be traced), was Aide-de-Camp to The Bruce in the wars with England, and won land for his valor. There is still a town in Scotland of the same name as my last name. The subsequent fall from grace and scoundrels of the era are well known to me.

It certainly seems like the mentality behind ATS is at the very least Mind Controlled by TPTB,

Just because you would like to swear and wax-poetic on the qualities of various weed-growers?

Now, laying government control aside...... you have suceeded in creating a nicely sanitized place where the squishy headed kids can play SAFELY and the slightly above average kids can constantly baffle them with BS... Bravo

Okay, let's stop here and run with that thought with a little more seriousness, shall we?

While I don't agree with it, we could consider condensing and refining your to its essence: ATS is a safe and easily digestible source of subversive topics. We could play around with semantics and such, but I think that's close enough to the essence.

Again, I don't agree, but if true, I would say, so? And more eloquently, "You mean we've created the online equivalent of a gateway drug to introduce people to the idea that much more is happening than that which they are aware?" Bravo.

Seriously. If that's how it shakes out, that ATS has become a sheltered and casual place for people to first learn there are serious conspiracies in this world and that the mainstream media is lying to them, which then leads them to more specialized and obscure websites to learn more -- I'm not necessarily against that.

Everyone needs a starting point. If ATS is it, it can be a good thing.

I got a wee bit tipsy last night...

Ok I got drunken on crown royal...

I really like crown royal yet I rarely drink plus it isnt that cheap...

Oh, Alcohol is a drug isnt it?

I just said that I partook of a drug last night didnt I?

What happens when someone talks about personal drug use on this site please?

See how slippery a slope S.O.?

Yes, A very slippery slope indeed and one that TPTB often put "we the people" on... like a parent puting a child on a merry go round made of wood, rarely maintained and known to have killed dozens of children in the past...

Can you say "weeeeeeee!"

Originally posted by OverMan
Ok I got drunken on crown royal...
I really like crown royal yet I rarely drink plus it isnt that cheap...

I feel sorry for you. Can I recommend a good tequila for next time? We have about 50, and I've become quite the connoisseur of the wonderful desert nectar of the gods. Many well-indulged nights, nary a morning problem.

Isn't Ron Paul in favor of legalizing/decriminalizing drugs? He's everyone's darling around here, we must be able to discuss his rationale for his position and what others have to say on the matter. Intelligent discussions about policy can be had without devolving into stonologues can't they? I have never understood this policy. It sticks out like a sore thumb.

reply to post by Pilot


You discuss the politics of the issue here in our members-only forum (guests don't see it for now), as we continue to experiment with allowing discussion of the scandals, politics, and conspiracies related to the drug prohibition and war on drugs.

reply to post by OverMan


You went to far this time.

Judge of Angels...really?

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


but, hey! even threads claiming you are all disinfo shill agents gets you ad cliks, right

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by Pilot

 

You discuss the politics of the issue here in our members-only forum (guests don't see it for now), as we continue to experiment with allowing discussion of the scandals, politics, and conspiracies related to the drug prohibition and war on drugs.

This little subsection does not even have a title.
A little picture of Barry smoking a joint or is that a cigarette... really?

How was anyone to know it even exists without you pointing it out?
Thank you very much...btw

and to address your question, No, I am not worried nor wanton to talk about "weed" growing, "weed" growers" etc etc yet it happens, it happens alot, just like anyone saying anything.... why does it bother ATS to the point where they make a LAW where people cannot discuss it... is the baffling, something the government would do, part that regardless of how many times you try to explain it will never make sense and always seem like bias censorship... to me and/or a "for more clicks" kinda thing.

I recall when this happened on another website where I might have had over 10k posts in under 2 years

They didnt want anything "taking away" from their pet subject matter so they found a little padded room to put all the 9/11 threads in.... a place easily monitered, away from the prying eye of the mainstream.... perfect...

done it ALL before... saw it, was part of it, been all over and got it all over me...
stuff others can only talk about yet there you are with your truly pre conceived bias notions thinking that all my justifiable indignation is simply juvenile angst directed at not being able to brag about my marijauna exploits on this forum..... and/or wanton to seem so....

Gotta always add those disclaimers in there

I believe what we have here is a simple case of hubris... if it wasnt all about clicks that is...
I mean really, from my posts you gathered this?

You must say "yes" otherwise the king doth express much prejudice!!!

I hear the city of Orlando is hiring Prosecuting Attorneys..... No experience neccessary!!!

Apologies as the cold hard facts of capitolism drive me to seek some levity....

After many turns and much struggling, sometimes one still finds their beloved King and Queen in the position known as Rape at which point most people simply concede and the odds are in their favor that a concession was usually the correct choice yet only those who persevere to the very last, only those special gluttons for punishment will ever learn if it is even possible to fight on and win when all seems lost.

I will concede to all the rest yet the fact that drugs, drug conspiracies et al are being kept from the mainstream in order to generate more revenue... nope sorry.... much trauma from living with a violent scottish alcoholic, lost a sibling to the sad mixture of two types of prescription medications, lost a father to PTSD from serving in a DRUG WAR and have witnessed many many more "casualties" along the way... too numerous to mention.

So no, rape my queen, take all my pieces and like monty pythons black knight I will still be raging for a fight on this issue...

It aint about weed but weed is a part of life, a symbiotic relationship with mankind since perhaps the beginning of mankind yet my anger, my "angst" has very little to do with "weed" and I am now trying to take less offence to those words as I understand that your senses have been dulled by the BULGE IQ who just so happen to partake of marijauna... they make pot look bad and have done so in your eyes and i will go now and try to forgive them for it.

P.S. I know tequila... we are old friends... I was 12 the first time I partook and yer probably not going to believe this yet 19 shots later, my 16 year old girlfriend realized that I wasnt going to be able to go to the movies that night...

You like it straight? salt and lemon lime?