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Originally posted by Ray1850 So to all of you people who think this kind of thing is new WAKE UP
For all the time and energy spent by guys like SFA437, explaining, and so on, there are 15 cops like the one that beat this handicapped kid.
Probably 20 to 1 even. I completely understand the position of SFA437, and appreciate his attempts, but I have to treat his posts and point of view like I would a children's story.
You are saying it is 20 to 1 bad to good? Even if it was 20 to 1 good to bad, these stories would be everywhere at all times. Dozens of occurences each and every day in your own neighborhood. The ratio is much more likely 5000 to 1 good to bad, or something along those lines. It probably mirrors the ratio in your own office, or own family.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Butterbone
For all the time and energy spent by guys like SFA437, explaining, and so on, there are 15 cops like the one that beat this handicapped kid.
Probably 20 to 1 even. I completely understand the position of SFA437, and appreciate his attempts, but I have to treat his posts and point of view like I would a children's story.
Really?
There are over 600,000 law enforcement officers in the country. They each encounter a certain number of civilians every single day. We are talking about millions of interactions between police and civilians each and every day. If the bad ones truly outnumbered the good ones, then we would see nothing but violence in the streets at all times. People would cower and hide from police. 1000's or even 100s of 10000s of violent attacks by police each and every day. Are you seeing that?
You are saying it is 20 to 1 bad to good? Even if it was 20 to 1 good to bad, these stories would be everywhere at all times. Dozens of occurences each and every day in your own neighborhood. The ratio is much more likely 5000 to 1 good to bad, or something along those lines. It probably mirrors the ratio in your own office, or own family.
There are a few bad cops. There are a few bad situations. There are a few tragic outcomes, but when you look at the millions of good situations, good outcomes, and good cops, then it makes claims like yours seem ridiculous and incindiery.
Originally posted by Qwenn
If everyone the Police had attacked unjustly and brutally in the past banded togeather and launched a lawsuit on the Government for allowing this brutal treatment from the very people that WE are paying for their services. They are working for us, but the very people responsible for employing them on our behalfs, should be acountable for their actions. If YOU speak to them in a tone they don't like, you are arrested, If ( or should I say when ) they brutally attack you and put your very life in danger, a blind eye is turned.
If I were in charge of the Police, I would operate a one strike and you are out policy and anyone NOT reporting a fellow officer for wrongdoings would also be out, and forget about your Police pension as well, state benefit for you, after you are released from jail. I can just see in my minds eye where this is all going, it will soon get so bad that NO-ONE will be prepared to work for the Police for the very risks which they have brought about themselves.
I would also enforce a 3 man patrol unit, where one officer was solely responsibe for filming every police intervention from the very first second to the last, also head cams with sound capabilities, which cannot be switched off, if they have to record their own actions, on duty, they will be too scared to step out of line !
And nowadays just think about the new law in Ohio (June 30, 2011) permitting concealed weapons to be carried into bars. Think about it - I surely would not like to be inside the head of an Ohio officer contemplating this new world. "Guns and alcohol"?? No one in their right mind approves of alcohol and driving, so why "guns and alcohol"???
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by MustangDesigns
I haven't read the whole article, but after reading the title it occured to me. I have children, and they will be teens one day. If they are ever attacked, intimidated, abused, or otherwise harmed by someone, in or out of uniform, and if there is ever a need for retribution, I won't be using tasers.
Originally posted by Qwenn
They should equip the young boy with a Taser, a can of pepper spray, a partner equally well equipped, and 20 vicious helpers to restrain the officer and manhandle him into a dark van for a magical mystery tour. If I were that cop, I would never feel safe to walk the street again, in case someone had taken it into their heads to teach him a lesson. Perhaps when he is off duty, the rest of his neighbours and shop owners should all decide to ignore him, and ban him from ever shopping in their store again, I know I would !
Originally posted by Butterbone
Originally posted by Qwenn
They should equip the young boy with a Taser, a can of pepper spray, a partner equally well equipped, and 20 vicious helpers to restrain the officer and manhandle him into a dark van for a magical mystery tour. If I were that cop, I would never feel safe to walk the street again, in case someone had taken it into their heads to teach him a lesson. Perhaps when he is off duty, the rest of his neighbours and shop owners should all decide to ignore him, and ban him from ever shopping in their store again, I know I would !
That cop is going to feel just as safe as the day he got his badge. And even if he does get fired from the force where he is, he'll just get another position in one of the surrounding communities at a slightly lower pay scale, as punishment. Then 2 years from now, he'll be right back on the force like nothing happened.