Gay pride parades make gays look bad.

reply to post by Lysergic


Plenty of straight couples do public acts, I believe you call it Dogging!! Look it up. Gay and Straight, we ain't so far apart

Guys, theres a reason AIDS was originally refered to as GRID: Gay Related Immune Deficiency

reply to post by Gman1803


I believe in the UK its called doggin'

of course we are similar we are humans.

You might think I've got some anti-gay agenda but I don't tbh my last roomie for 2 yrs was gay, so its not like I have gayphobia.

I was just more curious that from what I saw in the fotos it was a piss fetish contest, and well I was going to piss on some cement, and they tried to take me to jail.

Originally posted by SirMike
Guys, theres a reason AIDS was originally refered to as GRID: Gay Related Immune Deficiency

edit on 27-6-2011 by SirMike because: (no reason given)

Your post really shows the degree of your intelligence (or your lack thereof). I appreciate it.

Originally posted by Lysergic
reply to post by Gman1803

 

I believe in the UK its called doggin'

of course we are similar we are humans.

You might think I've got some anti-gay agenda but I don't tbh my last roomie for 2 yrs was gay, so its not like I have gayphobia.

I was just more curious that from what I saw in the fotos it was a piss fetish contest, and well I was going to piss on some cement, and they tried to take me to jail.

You're right. It's not fair. Some homosexuals go about it the completely wrong way, and they shouldn't be above the law. There are tons of good gays too. That's what the topic is about. Thanks for the input.

I have never been to a piss fetish party. Have never been to Gay Pride. It's not for me, but I am liberal enough to accept it. If a guy wants to wear assless chaps then get on with it and rock out I say. It ain't harming me.

Same if a guy wants to dress up as a woman. And for the record, most cross dressers are straight and married. They just like women's clothes! Go figure.

And to be honest, anyone who knows exactly were to find a piss fetish video on the internet is a bit dubious in my opinion. I wouldn't have a clue where to look for something like that!! And that would never be allowed in the street. It's probably a scene from some public porno. You really think police would watch as old men give out BJ's?? Put your brain in gear.

We're hear, we're queer, so now watch us go down the street wearing next to nothing.

In all seriousness, I'm gay, and I hate it too.

It annoys me when people are annoyed with being stereotyped, but then do everything in their power to fit into it.

Originally posted by mahoosta
We're hear, we're queer, so now watch us go down the street wearing next to nothing.

In all seriousness, I'm gay, and I hate it too.

It annoys me when people are annoyed with being stereotyped, but then do everything in their power to fit into it.

a voice of sanity.

I may be misunderstanding this, but what I got from this so far, is. Its ok to be gay, and to celebrate. Just as long as its not offensive to everyone else? If 3 million people came out to celebrate, and not everyone was "out" there with their outfits, and demeanor, isn't that their choice? The place you will not here complaints is in the actual parade, as everyone there is fully aware and respectful for the way they choose to express themselves.

Gay or not, if you attend the parade you are fully aware of what goes on there. Its actual quite festive, as Im from NYC and have been to a few myself. You cant be for their rights, but not for the way that they celebrate, and express their happiness for their rights.

If you dont like it, dont go, do watch, dont listen. There is not ONE person who hasn't just recently moved out of a cave, since the Stonewall incident that is not aware that the parade is flamboyant, outrageous, and down right festive.

Their happy, and they want to show it! Next someone may suggest that they have the right to marry as long as their is a 4 point clothing system, that will not offend others during the parades. Or maybe no floats, just walk quietly, or maybe they can all go into a bar or club, and quietly celebrate, in private, so that it doesn't upset anyone.

That is what the parade is for. For the times they had to be in secret, and were not be able to be themselves. Freedom, happiness, and expression has no rules!! I'm just so sad that some people dont know that.

Peace, NRE.

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


Well said. Let's be honest as well, stereotypes exist for a reason. Some of us love show tunes, some of us like leather, some of us mince down the road rather than walk, some of us are big chubby bears, some of us even like football and are hung like big beefy jocks. The gay population is as diverse as any other community and that's what I love about it.

What I don't like is those gay guys who have attitude about gay men who may be effeminate or camp or whatever and go on about only liking straight acting gay men!! Yeah, right, try saying straight acting when you have a cock in your mouth. LOL. It's all pretty absurd when you think about it.

Originally posted by DeviantMoon
If you haven't been living under a rock, you'll know what recently went down in New York, in regards to same sex marriage.

I want to first start by saying, I support same-sex marriage, 100%.

However, I am sickened by gay pride parades.

First - - the media could start focusing on other areas of gay parades and the events following the parade. The media loves to sensationalize. They go straight for the most outlandish person they can find - - - and that's what is splashed all over the TV screens.

They completely ignore gay families and supporters in the parades. And clergy - professionals - business owners supporting them.

I've been to the gay parade in Long Beach CA. While there were some fun loving outrages costumes - - - it was not the major part of the parade or the events following. The crowd was mostly families.

I've also been to some African American celebration parades - - - with tribal dancing. Should we ban that part of their culture? NO

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
I may be misunderstanding this, but what I got from this so far, is. Its ok to be gay, and to celebrate. Just as long as its not offensive to everyone else? If 3 million people came out to celebrate, and not everyone was "out" there with their outfits, and demeanor, isn't that their choice? The place you will not here complaints is in the actual parade, as everyone there is fully aware and respectful for the way they choose to express themselves.

Gay or not, if you attend the parade you are fully aware of what goes on there. Its actual quite festive, as Im from NYC and have been to a few myself. You cant be for their rights, but not for the way that they celebrate, and express their happiness for their rights.

If you dont like it, dont go, do watch, dont listen. There is not ONE person who hasn't just recently moved out of a cave, since the Stonewall incident that is not aware that the parade is flamboyant, outrageous, and down right festive.

Their happy, and they want to show it! Next someone may suggest that they have the right to marry as long as their is a 4 point clothing system, that will not offend others during the parades. Or maybe no floats, just walk quietly, or maybe they can all go into a bar or club, and quietly celebrate, in private, so that it doesn't upset anyone.

That is what the parade is for. For the times they had to be in secret, and were not be able to be themselves. Freedom, happiness, and expression has no rules!! I'm just so sad that some people dont know that.

Peace, NRE.

I sure as hell can be for their rights, and not the way (all) of them celebrate.

Freedom, happiness, and expression have no rules? That's cute.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by DeviantMoon
If you haven't been living under a rock, you'll know what recently went down in New York, in regards to same sex marriage.

I want to first start by saying, I support same-sex marriage, 100%.

However, I am sickened by gay pride parades.

First - - the media could start focusing on other areas of gay parades and the events following the parade. The media loves to sensationalize. They go straight for the most outlandish person they can find - - - and that's what is splashed all over the TV screens.

They completely ignore gay families and supporters in the parades. And clergy - professionals - business owners supporting them.

I've been to the gay parade in Long Beach CA. While there were some fun loving outrages costumes - - - it was not the major part of the parade or the events following. The crowd was mostly families.

I've also been to some African American celebration parades - - - with tribal dancing. Should we ban that part of their culture? NO

I'm not here to argue about what should and shouldn't be banned. I'm saying that the gays who wear little to no clothing with an 'in your face' mentality give the homophobes more reason to hate the gay community, when not all gays are like that.

The gays want equality and to be taken seriously. The few that are running around naked aren't helping their cause. Capisci?

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Well then I guess we can agree on something, the same way you thought that was cute I also thought this was cute as well

I want to first start by saying, I support same-sex marriage, 100%.

However, I am sickened by gay pride parades.

NRE.

Originally posted by DeviantMoon
I'm saying that the gays who wear little to no clothing with an 'in your face' mentality give the homophobes more reason to hate the gay community, when not all gays are like that.

The gays want equality and to be taken seriously. The few that are running around naked aren't helping their cause. Capisci?

If one gay guy was running around in a gold bikini - - - no one would notice the hundred people looking normal.

I have found gays are more critical of gays - - then anyone else. However - - If you accept gays - - you have to accept all facets of them.

You can not tell the flamboyant ones to stay in the closet - - - while the professional ones in suit and tie - - - get to come out an play.

So - - I don't blame the gays at all. I blame those who want to say which ones are acceptable and which ones are not.

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
reply to post by DeviantMoon

 

Well then I guess we can agree on something, the same way you thought that was cute I also thought this was cute as well

I want to first start by saying, I support same-sex marriage, 100%.

However, I am sickened by gay pride parades.

NRE.

I support equality. Not public indecency and lewd conduct, gay or straight.

Good luck with that.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by DeviantMoon
I'm saying that the gays who wear little to no clothing with an 'in your face' mentality give the homophobes more reason to hate the gay community, when not all gays are like that.

The gays want equality and to be taken seriously. The few that are running around naked aren't helping their cause. Capisci?

If one gay guy was running around in a gold bikini - - - no one would notice the hundred people looking normal.

I have found gays are more critical of gays - - then anyone else. However - - If you accept gays - - you have to accept all facets of them.

You can not tell the flamboyant ones to stay in the closet - - - while the professional ones in suit and tie - - - get to come out an play.

So - - I don't blame the gays at all. I blame those who want to say which ones are acceptable and which ones are not.

I accept homosexuals. I'm not saying that transvestites should stay in the closet. I'm saying, you can get out of the closet, but shaking your dick in public isn't going to persuade the homophobes to think any differently.

Originally posted by DeviantMoon

I support equality. Not public indecency and lewd conduct, gay or straight.

Good luck with that.

OK - - and who draws the line on what is decent and what is lewd?

Who makes that decision?

We already have laws against certain behaviors. So if you don't break those existing laws are you lewd and indecent?

Originally posted by DeviantMoon
I'm saying, you can get out of the closet, but shaking your dick in public isn't going to persuade the homophobes to think any differently.

That is against the law.

No one can do that.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by DeviantMoon

I support equality. Not public indecency and lewd conduct, gay or straight.

Good luck with that.

OK - - and who draws the line on what is decent and what is lewd?

Who makes that decision?

We already have laws against certain behaviors. So if you don't break those existing laws are you lewd and indecent?

In the beginning of the thread, an individual posted a link that redirected you to pictures of a gay pride parade in San Francisco, in which there were naked men and other lewd acts occurring.

That's lewd. That's against the law.

In 'normal' gay pride parades, you're right, laws aren't generally broken. But once again, I sound like a broken record:

If you want to be taken seriously, act serious. Homosexuals who dress inappropriately and do inappropriate things are getting the wrong kind of attention. You'll probably say, 'well define inappropriate'.

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If you didn't have opposing views - - your thread would be boring

Personal responsibility is the key issue. Each person should take responsibility on how they present themselves.

In turn - - those who judge - - should do so on an individual bases.

Judging a group on the behavior of an individual - - - falls on the responsibility of the one doing the judging.

Originally posted by Annee
reply to post by DeviantMoon

 

If you didn't have opposing views - - your thread would be boring

Personal responsibility is the key issue. Each person should take responsibility on how they present themselves.

In turn - - those who judge - - should do so on an individual bases.

Judging a group on the behavior of an individual - - - falls on the responsibility of the one doing the judging.

This is true.

Unfortunately, stereotypes run rampant. My point is that certain individuals who are not generally exposed to the LGBTQ community know only what they see. I know numerous homophobes who could fall into this category.

Since the media has a way of accentuating the 'drag queen' aspects, it can make certain straights feel uncomfortable about homosexuals, because they look at the 'drag queen' and can come to the ignorant assumption that all gay males are glitter-ridden, effeminate individuals who have an affinity for tight clothing.

I have nothing against transvestites and the more effeminate homosexuals. I think it's a beautiful culture, that unfortunately is frequently labeled and judged to be something it's not.

In making the thread, I didn't mean any offense. I was merely trying to point out how some homophobic individuals may perceive and label the community based on a few types of individuals.