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Originally posted by pikestaff
Knowing that stuff just makes it worse! ignorance really is bliss! Seems that the tentacles of Rome and London are everywhere, So I should not really worry about Jihad, the Jews, wall street, etc., but those mentioned in the thread.
Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing
I might be called ignorant... but to me a one world government sounds pretty awesome. (No wars, no passports, food and quality of life for everyone) whats wrong with that??
Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing
I might be called ignorant... but to me a one world government sounds pretty awesome. (No wars, no passports, food and quality of life for everyone) whats wrong with that??
Originally posted by vexati0n
I know this is going to be an unpopular position, but what, exactly is wrong with a universal global government? It could be argued that the United States are a microcosm of just such a system: States have given a measure of sovereignty to the Federal Government, counties to States, cities to counties, and so on. The model is in full swing here and has been for 230 years. What is inherently wrong with expanding that model to a global scale?
I find most of the arguments against a unified world government to be a bit two-faced, at least the American arguments which are the ones I'm familiar with. On one hand, we deplore the idea of anybody telling Americans what to do, unless they are other Americans who have been rightfully elected. On the other hand, we don't seem to mind that we as Americans tell half of everyone else on the planet what they are supposed to do. It seems like most Americans would be okay with a global government, so long as it took the form of an American-ruled empire.
If the argument against global government were a morally honest one, then we would deplore equally the notion of a foreigner ruling over us and the notion of us ruling over foreigners.
But all in all, the OP was great, and really well researched. And anyone who doesn't see the steps being taken toward global government isn't paying much attention. I guess the difference between me and many on ATS is that I actually support a one-world government, because I find it deplorable that billions of people live and die in awful conditions so incompatible with Human dignity, and it's clear that there is no system of International law short of absolute federation that will ever address that problem adequately. The Westphalian System of national sovereignty, like the systems that preceded it, is only as good as the conditions it allows for. It is basically an international "honor system" that leaves billions of people out in the cold.
There is nothing inherently superior about any single nation or any single race of people. I am an American because I live in America; I am a Human because that's what I am. Global politics should reflect that.
Originally posted by TheUniverse
reply to post by rstregooski
Well i read about half of it so far restregooski and i like what you have put together. This is some really damning evidence that shows the World Government has been in the making for a long time.
It seems like there is no democracy its been fascism all along.
Run by the major corporations and the 1450 CFR members who wish to profit of everything thing and the Non-winning war in Vietnam.
So i wonder were the world wars a non-winning war as well that sought to en-debt the nations to reap the profits from them for the eons, centuries.
The world has been duped.
... and soon bow down to your leaders
Since one of your links was Jordan Maxwell i thought this would be appropriate.edit on 26-6-2011 by TheUniverse because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tim3lord
thats one hell of a post.
its too bad the JBS failed in its attempts to stop the infiltration of America. I suspect they themselves were infiltrated and taken over.
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by rstregooski
Here are the two parts to the interview in its entirety. The up-loader of the videos has the right idea.
There was another thread in which they posted documents claiming to have been entered into the Congressional record. It would be that much more compelling if someone could obtain physical copies of these docs. Seems that it would have to be in person as the online catalog only goes as far back as 1994:
www.gpoaccess.gov...
What's difficult is to reconcile is the fact that so many ATS members seem to appreciate and understand the true agenda and who's behind it and yet they continue to buy into this fake war on terror...
Originally posted by sdocpublishing
Fantastic post! The video with was amazing.
Did everyone notice the difference between this interview (common for it's day) and the content, format and respect that is afforded during interviews today?
What a difference. The moderator was even taking notes, he quoted how many times one individual had used the term conspiracy, while very intelligently moderating a debate and asking intelligent questions with comprehension and insight.
And today's interviews are "What magazines do you read" and "Are you against terrorism?".
reply to post by Jrocbaby
50% of the WORLD lives off of or under $2.00 a day and work for wages we would not think twice about turning down. Even our own industry knows this, and replaced like 60% of the manufacturing jobs with robots, or moved them overseas where they can get people to work for $0.03 a shoe they make.
Originally posted by Shura
The way and means which are used to achieve this, do you really think you can build a peacefull world government ontop of countless dead bodies?
I do not.
Sacrificing people for "the greater good" is in my humble opinion not the way humanity should choose.
There will be always people who would resist a world government which foundations are built on human sacrifices.
Originally posted by rstregooski
Originally posted by vexati0n
I know this is going to be an unpopular position, but what, exactly is wrong with a universal global government? It could be argued that the United States are a microcosm of just such a system: States have given a measure of sovereignty to the Federal Government, counties to States, cities to counties, and so on. The model is in full swing here and has been for 230 years. What is inherently wrong with expanding that model to a global scale?
I find most of the arguments against a unified world government to be a bit two-faced, at least the American arguments which are the ones I'm familiar with. On one hand, we deplore the idea of anybody telling Americans what to do, unless they are other Americans who have been rightfully elected. On the other hand, we don't seem to mind that we as Americans tell half of everyone else on the planet what they are supposed to do. It seems like most Americans would be okay with a global government, so long as it took the form of an American-ruled empire.
If the argument against global government were a morally honest one, then we would deplore equally the notion of a foreigner ruling over us and the notion of us ruling over foreigners.
But all in all, the OP was great, and really well researched. And anyone who doesn't see the steps being taken toward global government isn't paying much attention. I guess the difference between me and many on ATS is that I actually support a one-world government, because I find it deplorable that billions of people live and die in awful conditions so incompatible with Human dignity, and it's clear that there is no system of International law short of absolute federation that will ever address that problem adequately. The Westphalian System of national sovereignty, like the systems that preceded it, is only as good as the conditions it allows for. It is basically an international "honor system" that leaves billions of people out in the cold.
There is nothing inherently superior about any single nation or any single race of people. I am an American because I live in America; I am a Human because that's what I am. Global politics should reflect that.
Thanks for the response. I guess I'll post what I responded to on page one, re my position on it..
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"Call me crazy, I just don't like the idea of a select few powerful elite controlling the direction things are headed in.. It's like population control. I have friends that say, "Yea, there should be something done about the expanding population".. But then you stop and think:
-who's in control of said population control?
-by what means will (or is) this being implemented?
-what percentage of this agenda will the public actually be privy to?