Nine Documents From The Last 89 Years You Should Be Aware Of

reply to post by TheUniverse


Well, you're right about one thing.

There is no democracy.

I assume that when you say "fascism" you mean, generically, "any government not directly ruled by the people themselves," and not actual Fascism as a political/ideological philosophy. In the generic sense, of course you're right. There is no democracy, like you already said.

And that's a good thing.

You know what happens when you have democracy? American Idol, Intelligent Design, Reality TV, and every other brain-rotting nonsensical fantasy that The People, in all their nobility, lazily vote for themselves to wallow in. Democracy is exactly what we don't need, because while a singular Human can be very smart, People in large numbers tend to be ignorant, unruly mobs not the least bit concerned with their own common well-being or even that of their progeny.

People must be ruled; they cannot rule themselves for long because eventually self-government succeeds: their society gets prosperous, then it gets comfortable, then it gets complacent, then it gets apathetic, and then it all falls apart because nobody cares about paying any attention. Democracy is great for those without it; for those with it, it's the very first thing we give up. Just look at American history.

reply to post by vexati0n

People must be ruled; they cannot rule themselves for long because eventually self-government succeeds: their society gets prosperous, then it gets comfortable, then it gets complacent, then it gets apathetic, and then it all falls apart because nobody cares about paying any attention. Democracy is great for those without it; for those with it, it's the very first thing we give up. Just look at American history.

And this will be the and is why the Fall of America and/or the Western powers has become ever more prevalent in the past decade.

China Russia Brazil and India are rising.

Other countries as well.

We will have to see how it all plays out Time will tell.

all this info needs to be forwarded to Ron Paul.
a book needs to be written supported by a 5013c and a mass mailer of the book needs to go to everyone in this country

the government must be shut down....period..... before they destroy us

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The flaw in your plan is that you think a significant number of people in this country read books.

News flash: Americans don't read anything with more than two syllables or six pages, unless it's about a teenage wizard. We don't care enough to read. America continues to get exactly what the American People ask for. It just so happens that currently we are asking to be babied and pampered, and lied to, and stabbed in the back.

This IS Democracy!

reply to post by vexati0n

America continues to get exactly what the American People ask for. It just so happens that currently we are asking to be babied and pampered, and lied to, and stabbed in the back. This IS Democracy!

What Americans do is work. Harder and more than any other First world country. We work and work and barely get by and you would blame us for not having read obscure documents outlining a conspiracy far beyond the scope of our daily lives, incremental enough to not be noticed by a single generation or even two.

Really?

We asked for this? This is democracy? You have got to be kidding.

reply to post by rstregooski

You should be aware of this story as well.

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.

"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

Great post! thanks for all of this information
plenty to read tonight..

thats one hell of a post.

its too bad the JBS failed in its attempts to stop the infiltration of America. I suspect they themselves were infiltrated and taken over.

Big deal. The homosexual activists stated domination of the media and political arena's since 1974. They've almost succeeded where global government has become even more of an impossibilty.

Hey, maybe one the world order and domination is by homosexuals?

Thank you for an excellent and well researched post. I intend to study the information you have given and more.
I have been aware of the CFR for years and have always felt that group is the most danger.

That is the absolute finest thread I have ever read on this site or any other. Mega thumbs-up for the OP.

On a side note, I wonder if the whole "UFO-alien invasion" phenonenom is part of an effort to unite "all of mankind against a common enemy".

On a second side note, the Bible says that all of mankind will gather together at the Valley of Armagedo (Armageddon) to fight against the armies of the Lord who will return "in the air".

There does seem to be a pattern here...

Originally posted by joechip
reply to post by vexati0n

 

America continues to get exactly what the American People ask for. It just so happens that currently we are asking to be babied and pampered, and lied to, and stabbed in the back. This IS Democracy!

What Americans do is work. Harder and more than any other First world country. We work and work and barely get by and you would blame us for not having read obscure documents outlining a conspiracy far beyond the scope of our daily lives, incremental enough to not be noticed by a single generation or even two.

Really?

We asked for this? This is democracy? You have got to be kidding.

edit on 26-6-2011 by joechip because: spelling

Please tell me you are kidding...

50% of the WORLD lives off of or under $2.00 a day and work for wages we would not think twice about turning down.

Even our own industry knows this, and replaced like 60% of the manufacturing jobs with robots, or moved them overseas where they can get people to work for $0.03 a shoe they make.

We have a huge group of people that do not work in this country, so I would argue that out of anyone, America does have the time to sit down and read documents that accurately predicted all the events that happened today. Prediction threads are common on this site, and that isn't even anything of value at all..

Anyways, as for the OP, wonderful thread, S&F& favorite.

That was indeed a mind blowing speech, it makes me wonder if people like alex jones are actually onto something and that is why they seem so bat-s@#$ crazy to the general populace screaming about the NWO, when infact maybe we all should be screaming like AJ.

reply to post by rstregooski

Here are the two parts to the interview in its entirety. The up-loader of the videos has the right idea.


There was another thread in which they posted documents claiming to have been entered into the Congressional record. It would be that much more compelling if someone could obtain physical copies of these docs. Seems that it would have to be in person as the online catalog only goes as far back as 1994:

www.gpoaccess.gov...

What's difficult is to reconcile is the fact that so many ATS members seem to appreciate and understand the true agenda and who's behind it and yet they continue to buy into this fake war on terror...

Originally posted by Heckren
As much as there is anti-NWO mood, you should understand that it is not a bad thing. Capitalism is very exploitable in very important way, centralization of wealth and power to those who have money.

Globalization is important step towards better humanity. United under one country, freed of religion and nationalism, we can explore universe as one, and perhaps coexist with other species as one.

In a practical way, what is the meaning of nationalism, or hunting of money ? With a balanced system like participatory economy we can achieve so much more. Democracy is also very bad system because well... majority of people are stupid. You know it. Thing that has more advertisement or propagation will be very likely passed, but it wont be good.

Rule of intelligence would be ideal, without such things as luck today(risking on markets etc..), or treating money like a resource.

Planet must be united. It cannot be achieved through democracy nor capitalism. Maybe that is what our galaxy neighbors are waiting for...

edit on 25-6-2011 by Heckren because: typos

As controversial as your post is, it challenges some long held preconceptions of our society. And will probably be attacked rather than discussed on these boards. However, you bring up good points. The uneducated masses may not be the best authority to entrust with political power. They can easily be tricked by a simple TV add. Most I've noticed, more than anything else, seem to be unable to draw their own conclusions. They immediately latch on to the message which confirms their emotional bias towards those they hate, rather than laying aside the bias and attempting to think clearly with the available information. Not to mention, they always seek to be right and never seek to challenge their own beliefs. I have to ask myself, "Does it make sense to put those who are so easily manipulated in charge of country and world affairs?" It would be tantamount to letting your 10 year old control the family budget.

Now on to the the idea of a United Planet. I don't think this is such an easy subject to talk about. It looks good on paper and I agree with it on paper. However, the amount of people that would have to be forced to subscribe to it would be overwhelming and stained with blood. I firmly believe that the only way this would ever work is if 95% of human beings agreed with it. Much like 95% of us agree it should be illegal to kill your neighbor because his dog crapped on your lawn. We don't label the law to not kill people a totalitarian and socialist control mechanism. We all know that the law is there for a good reason. Then there is the idea of liberty and freedom. I don't think humans can sustain-ably live in peace without liberty and freedom. However, as soon as you inject liberty and freedom into a society, you're stuck with ignorant uneducated people making decisions for the country.

So were stuck. A forced world order would not work. Our current model is not working. Capitalism is failing us in almost every good thing it promised to give us. So on and so forth.

The only solution I can see to any of this is a sudden global elevation of consciousness where we throw out our long held fears and work together as one. But maybe that's at hand...

If the goal of the elite was to have a communist society, then why did they let the US win the Cold War? Wouldnt it have been easier to make the USSR the dominant world force that set world policy? Why allow the opposite of what they wanted to win? That doesnt make any sense.

Just because propaganda was written a long time ago doesnt make it any more valid. Are old Joe McCarthys words something to live by? No, we look back now and laugh at him.

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
If the goal of the elite was to have a communist society, then why did they let the US win the Cold War? Wouldnt it have been easier to make the USSR the dominant world force that set world policy? Why allow the opposite of what they wanted to win? That doesnt make any sense.

Just because propaganda was written a long time ago doesnt make it any more valid. Are old Joe McCarthys words something to live by? No, we look back now and laugh at him.

Maybe there is an equally secret society which protects the people rather than dominate. And maybe they stopped them. Just a thought. If such a organization ever existed it would probably never be researched since most conspiracy theorists always assume the worst. In fact, maybe the organization doing shadowy things behind closed doors who we suspect are up to something evil are the very same people seeking to protect mankind against these kind of plots. The possibilities are endless!

illuminati allways anounce what they plan to do, since they are a secret society (less each day)
they have allways comunicated in code and symbolism, each cult or faction is seperate from
the others (in case of discovery, only that faction will be uncovered) so they work together
without actually direct comunication, perhaps without concious knowledge of their actions.

Originally posted by daggyz
Hey, maybe one the world order and domination is by homosexuals?

It is! I call it homo-socialism, and it seems to be the British who are the driving force behind it, or at least their phony monarchy is to be used as the head of the one world, homo-government. You may detect the homosexual link with reptiles, who long ago invaded Earth.

But don't worry, it is simply not going to happen - the reptiles will not be permitted to destroy human-heterosexuality by introducing a genetically engineered man that can get pregnant. There is someone standing in the way of their dark plans.

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Well I look at it like this... we have two options in this either we roll like Egypt or we lay around and see if that the world would be better off like they think and I almost agree with the other poster saying that ignorance is bliss however that idea goes out with the idea they want to kill most of us to fit the planet better.