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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
People can't just brainlessly parrot ''it's a parent's choice'', ''it's a parent's choice'', without actually attempting to formulate an argument which justifies their view that a parent is entitled to mutilate their baby son's penis.
If someone anaesthetises a non-consenting adult and chops off his foreskin, would that adult be entitled to press charges against his attacker ?
If you agree that it's a crime to forcibly remove an adult's foreskin, then why the blazes would you condone this same crime when it's carried out upon a young child ?!
The whole pro-circumcision argument is as illogical as it's morally reprehensible.
Originally posted by bozotheclown
reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN
I worked in a nursery for 4 years and saw/heard many circumcisions. It is a barbaric practice. Almost no babies excaped the procedure. In 4 years and hundreds of babies I only saw two leave the nursery uncut. (They were to small to cut safely) At least the Jews have a "religous" reason for the procedure. One of our Jewish pediatricians said that really according to the faith does not have to be a complete removal of the foreskin it can be nothing but a symbolic little cut to draw blood and that will suffice. All the babies I saw had the foreskin competely removed. The majority of the patients were christian types and all requested the procedure for "cosmetic" reasons. I can't think of any other cosmetic surgery that would be done to a baby at birth. It is not right. The old fashioned idea that they don't feel it becuase they are babies is crap. They are strapped down and scream like they are dying. It is a special high pitched scream that I could always recognize from far down the hall. It is very different from the normal hungry/cranky scream. The doctors are supposed to numb them but it never works right. I would always invite the dads down to the nursery when their sons were being circumcised. No one ever took me up on the offer. Cowards
How would you know if you have no issues with sensitivity if you've never had a foreskin?
Originally posted by ls1cameric
Originally posted by bozotheclown
reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN
I worked in a nursery for 4 years and saw/heard many circumcisions. It is a barbaric practice. Almost no babies excaped the procedure. In 4 years and hundreds of babies I only saw two leave the nursery uncut. (They were to small to cut safely) At least the Jews have a "religous" reason for the procedure. One of our Jewish pediatricians said that really according to the faith does not have to be a complete removal of the foreskin it can be nothing but a symbolic little cut to draw blood and that will suffice. All the babies I saw had the foreskin competely removed. The majority of the patients were christian types and all requested the procedure for "cosmetic" reasons. I can't think of any other cosmetic surgery that would be done to a baby at birth. It is not right. The old fashioned idea that they don't feel it becuase they are babies is crap. They are strapped down and scream like they are dying. It is a special high pitched scream that I could always recognize from far down the hall. It is very different from the normal hungry/cranky scream. The doctors are supposed to numb them but it never works right. I would always invite the dads down to the nursery when their sons were being circumcised. No one ever took me up on the offer. Cowards
I sense a bit (lot) of biased expression in your comment.
I'm not religious, nor were my parents. My parents chose to have me cut as is i did when my son was born. I also watched our pediatrician snip him and he slept through it. He didnt bat a freaking eye so to say that it's a torturous act is a little bit overboard.
I also want to ad that although i do not know if the foreskin is more sensitive, I certainly have NO ISSUES with sensitivity myself.
Originally posted by amazed
Because male circumcision, which is NOTHING compared to female genitalia mutilation... reduces pretty much completely the chances for cancer. Not to mention all the other positives of male circumcision. Do a little research before you try to pretend that male circumcision and female mutilation are equal. They are not.
Harm None
Peace
Originally posted by bcroper
My best friend told me once, I wish I was cut. Lots of girls freak when they see it cause they have never seen one before. Some would still let him have intercourse but oral was out of the picture. I am cut I have never had that problem. He said he would get done now but it takes a little while to heal, I think he was just scared. That is how I made the decision to have my son cut.
Plus it reduces the risk of cancer, std transmition, infection and all that. When it is done to women it hurts the woman for the rest of her life. When done to a man he will never know until told there was once extra skin there.
Originally posted by bcroper
My best friend told me once, I wish I was cut. Lots of girls freak when they see it cause they have never seen one before. Some would still let him have intercourse but oral was out of the picture. I am cut I have never had that problem. He said he would get done now but it takes a little while to heal, I think he was just scared. That is how I made the decision to have my son cut.
Plus it reduces the risk of cancer, std transmition, infection and all that. When it is done to women it hurts the woman for the rest of her life. When done to a man he will never know until told there was once extra skin there.
Originally posted by amazed
Because male circumcision, which is NOTHING compared to female genitalia mutilation... reduces pretty much completely the chances for cancer. Not to mention all the other positives of male circumcision. Do a little research before you try to pretend that male circumcision and female mutilation are equal. They are not.
Harm None
Peace