Apparently, 75% of Americans want to be Dragged Back to the Jim Crow Era

Funny how the same people who claim to fear government and its bureaucracy want to impose further government regulations in this instance..

Reply to post by mike_trivisonno

Go find a different place to live.

No seriously, DO IT.

The day we restrict voting rights is the final nail in the destruction of our rights as U.S citizens!


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reply to post by Antiquated1


Please tell me how in the hell you could prosecute someone that doesn't exist? You want us to throw Mickey Mouse on trial for voting even though he is a fictional character and couldn't possibly have cast a vote? Your arguments are weak at best. You want us to dig up grandma Neddy that cast her vote even though she has been dead 15 years?
The point is in voter fraud there is no case that makes it to court because how the hell are they going to prosecute anyone unless they are actually caught in the act? This ID thing would catch or weed out most of the ones casting fictitious ballots.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Funny how the same people who claim to fear government and its bureaucracy want to impose further government regulations in this instance..

Nevermind...

everything and everyone one must honestly disclosed or in slips crime. if everything is on the up and up then people and the government should never have any problems, especially when they can see eye to eye,
like that will ever happen in any ones life time

Every time somebody suggests getting the voting fraud under control, somebody screams "racism". Bull*4it! There is NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING that makes it any more difficult for a minority to have ID than anybody else. If you managed to get registered to vote, which requires ID, then you should be covered!

Anybody who cries racism is just grasping at straws to keep voter fraud alive. They will stop at NOTHING to corrupt the election process. Call me a racist, I really don't give a rat's @ss. I know I'm not and that's all that matters. I don't have a problem with ANY race, but I do have a problem with particular cultures; there's a big difference. If it's racist to ask for ID at the polling station then it must be racist for the DMV to ask for your drivers license when you register to vote. Why aren't they crying racist about that? Why aren't they crying racist when they get carded to purchase a jumbo of Colt 45? Why isn't that racist? They use ID to enforce a law at the liquor store and they use ID to enforce a law at a polling station. I'm all for it. I have a drivers license, I'm a law abiding citizen and have nothing to hide. Besides, in most areas, you are required by LAW to carry ID, so it shouldn't be an issue.

reply to post by General.Lee


What about those who make no mention of race, but state that such a requirement is unconstitutional?

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Funny how the same people who claim to fear government and its bureaucracy want to impose further government regulations in this instance..

Funny how people who take endless hand-outs from the government suddenly don't want the government interfering with their lives. See what I did there?

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by General.Lee

 

What about those who make no mention of race, but state that such a requirement is unconstitutional?

You aren't losing your right to vote, you simply have to show that you are legally eligible to vote. What you are suggesting is the idea that anybody, from anywhere can walk into a polling station and vote without any verification, including illegals, nationals from other countries, foreign vacationers, etc, etc. Sorry, but the constitution cared won't fly. We have plenty of rights provided by the constitution but there are also restrictions that go along with them, like don't yell "fire" in a crowded theater if there isn't one.

Again, I defer back to the process of registering to vote, where they ask for ID. Aren't THEY violating your constitutional rights? Or are you being selective of the how and when your "rights" are protected?

Originally posted by Antiquated1

Originally posted by mishigas
I cannot think of a reason why someone would oppose Voter ID, except if they planned on using voter fraud to rig an election.

Because they do not have an ID but still want to exercise their rights as an American citizen?

If THEY or anyone for that matter wishes to exercise their "rights" in THIS country then they should go and GET an ID. ID's are very important, to be able to drive, to be able to vote, to be able to participate in congress, to be able to fly, I could go on and on.

Without an ID voter fraud would be very easy and you better believe there are people who would love nothing better. WIthout a picture ID which also lists your addy, being checked by people in your precinct, how do they know who YOU are? How do they know this is YOUR precinct.


No ID, NO VOTE. That's the way it is, and that is absolutely the way it should be.

PERIOD. End of story.

reply to post by iamcamouflage


With technology, we can fake almost anything, that isn't reason to abolish all laws. I could fake a title to a car, a building permit, a temporary license tag for my car, you name it. But to suggest that those laws should just be trashed because of the possibility of fraud isn't even worth arguing.

Originally posted by General.Lee
Every time somebody suggests getting the voting fraud under control, somebody screams "racism".

You really do think that it's the people going to the polls who commit the fraud, don't you? That's soooo cute! They've got you trained like a dancing monkey. Dance, Jojo, dance!

reply to post by General.Lee


Again, what you are suggesting is unconstitutional.

Perhaps the constitution doesnt matter to you.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


It's your DRIVERS LICENSE.

I am ashamed of my compatriotes sometimes.

Originally posted by Antiquated1
From reading posts by many in this thread, in other threads, I can only take away one thing.

Forcing everyone to buy a photo ID, although unconstitutional, is a pretty good idea. It just makes sense.
Forcing everyong to buy health insurance is just wrong for being unconstitutional.
My only question I guess is how many "K"s do you use to spell out USA again?

edit on 10-6-2011 by Antiquated1 because: (no reason given)

with everything ive seen

3 ks would suit me just fine

Oh my god. I had to stop at page 9. It just keeps going and going, doesn't it? This country has a LOT of problems, and this thread is a nice example of why none of them ever get solved.

A man stands on a railroad track while a train races towards him. Oh no! He should jump to the right to avoid the train! Hmm, no. The grass is a little high over there. He will go to the left instead. There is no excess shrubbery over there. Wait! He is actually heading to the store which is located on the right side of the tracks, so he probably should just walk through the overgrown grass to the sidewalk. Hmm, that's odd. His watch says its 5:32 in the afternoon, but his iphone clearly shows 5:40. Better adj...... Splat.

The comments and responses here make me so very sad for this great country. I pray that this is the minority not the majority.

I personally think that in order to try and be PC, the United States of America has bent over backwards until it's about to break, for the disenfranchised.

If you are illegal. LEAVE. How dare you think you should be allowed to vote. Lord knows you wont be paying taxes. IF you want to come here, COME LEGALLY.

If you want to have your baby here, without being a US citizen, go home, have it in hte bushes.

The US has to crackdown on what is going on, or we are going to be lost. And I am frankly so fed up with people wanting to operate outside the rules, that I am ready for another revolution to get rid of the illegals, criminals from other countries, and others sucking the life out of this country. LEAVE.

The voter fraud in the U.S. is so miniscule as to be non-existent. This is just more power-mongering by TPTB to limit voting rights and anyone with an iota of common sense would see it. Of course everyone reading this thread already has a photo ID since most of the people that don't are not on the internet anyway. What's the big deal? I will tell you.

This country operated without photo ID's for over 200 years and nobody has ever won a national election based on voter fraud. A strong case has been made for election fraud but anybody that actually believes that "Mickey Mouse" voted is a fool or has never voted themselves. The election judges, those people you check in with when you go to the polls, ask your name, birth date and check your name off a list manually. Do you really think one of them is stupid enough to let Mickey or Superman or Batman actually vote? Really?

Welcome to Amerika, corporation style. This is a ruse to lower the numbers of voters and perpetuated by the fascist wing of this country operating under the guise of conservatives. The more people that vote, the greater chance that the monied powers lose so they will conceive of every little trick possible to prevent that. This is like worrying about ants in your house while it is overrun by gorillas.

Get rid of the electronic (and easily hacked) voting machines first to insure that even those with photo ID's have their votes counted. After that, worry about tightening restrictions on those attempting fraud. Until then, those favoring any....ANY...restriction in voting accessibility are not doing anything other than empowering TPTB money "dictators" attempting to drive the U.S. into fascist (corporate) rule. The inability of individuals to see that is staggering in its implication.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox

Originally posted by General.Lee
Every time somebody suggests getting the voting fraud under control, somebody screams "racism".

You really do think that it's the people going to the polls who commit the fraud, don't you? That's soooo cute! They've got you trained like a dancing monkey. Dance, Jojo, dance!

FOX, how is your "mood" revolutionary, could you explain that to me?

reply to post by mishigas


im glad you wernt going the other way with this 1. commen sence if we have the technology should be used in cases like these. but computer fraud is alot easier too its a double edged sword so i guess still the advantages are greater than the disadvantages.