Apparently, 75% of Americans want to be Dragged Back to the Jim Crow Era

According to the head of the DNC, an overwhelming majority of Americans want to "be dragged Back to the Jim Crow Era".

A new Rasmussen poll out today found that 75 percent of respondents support a law requiring voters to show ID at the polls. Or, as DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz recently put it, a law that would “drag us all the way back to the Jim Crow” era.

In fairness:

Wasserman Schultz walked back her hyperbole slightly earlier this week, conceding that “Jim Crow was the wrong analogy to use.” But she still claims that requirements to show ID at the polls – which are designed to cut down on election fraud – are racially discriminatory.

American Thinker

I cannot think of a reason why someone would oppose Voter ID, except if they planned on using voter fraud to rig an election.

Originally posted by mishigas
I cannot think of a reason why someone would oppose Voter ID, except if they planned on using voter fraud to rig an election.

Because they do not have an ID but still want to exercise their rights as an American citizen?

Originally posted by Antiquated1

Originally posted by mishigas
I cannot think of a reason why someone would oppose Voter ID, except if they planned on using voter fraud to rig an election.

Because they do not have an ID but still want to exercise their rights as an American citizen?

Could you give a good reason why someone that is a citizen of this country,would not have some form of identification ? I mean if they will take the time to vote,why not take the time to get a proper id.

Originally posted by daddyroo45
Could you give a good reason why someone that is a citizen of this country,would not have some form of identification ? I mean if they will take the time to vote,why not take the time to get a proper id.

Can you explain to me why someone that is a citizen of this country would have a photo ID? This is about photo ID. Not a SS card or birth certificate. PHOTO ID. Why would a citizen have a photo ID?

A recent national survey sponsored by the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law reveals that millions of American citizens do not have readily available documentary proof of citizenship. Many more – primarily women – do not have proof of citizenship with their current name. The survey also showed that millions of American citizens do not have government-issued photo identification, such as a driver’s license or passport. Finally, the survey demonstrated that certain groups – primarily poor, elderly, and minority citizens – are less likely to possess these forms of documentation than the general population.

As many as 11 percent of United States citizens – more than 21 million individuals – do not have government-issued photo identification.

Elderly citizens are less likely to possess government-issued photo identification.

Minority citizens are less likely to possess government-issued photo identification.

Citizens with comparatively low incomes are less likely to possess photo identification.

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What rights? Certainly the spirit or letter of the 15Th or 19th Amendments are not being violated.

dbl post

Why is there any controversy at all on this topic. Elections are for American citizenry and by American citizens. Is the implication that socio-economically disadvantaged citizens or minority citizens are less likely to possess proper identification indicating their status? No one is trying to establish rules such as only land-owners may vote, or blacks get 3/5 of a vote. Who has a problem with presenting identification and proof of citizenship?

Originally posted by mishigas

But she still claims that requirements to show ID at the polls – which are designed to cut down on election fraud – are racially discriminatory.

Yes, that is correct, it is racially discriminatory because only certain races are granted ID in this country. What, they ran out of logical reasons to argue their point so they had to resort to playing the race card? I am sorry, but if people were forced to show ID in order to vote maybe we could cut back on the ghost votes IE: Mickey Mouse, Captain Kirk, John Wayne etc. etc.

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The right to vote.

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Good then both of you can dispute the data in the above link that I supplied.

Photo ID is not granted at birth, nor is it free. There is a good reason that people do not posses one and why people who do do not care or notice.

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What is the problem with a photo id ? Most people I know take their face with them wherever they go. I am not advocating RFID by any means,but a simple photo id,come on. What right is that infringing upon ?

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All those figures you presented mean very little. Those people probably don't vote to begin with. But this is a wonderful opportunity for them to get something they never had - a picture ID.

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So you provide a survey as a counter point?
Ok. Anything else?

Originally posted by Antiquated1

Originally posted by daddyroo45
Could you give a good reason why someone that is a citizen of this country,would not have some form of identification ? I mean if they will take the time to vote,why not take the time to get a proper id.

Can you explain to me why someone that is a citizen of this country would have a photo ID? This is about photo ID. Not a SS card or birth certificate. PHOTO ID. Why would a citizen have a photo ID?

A recent national survey sponsored by the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law reveals that millions of American citizens do not have readily available documentary proof of citizenship. Many more – primarily women – do not have proof of citizenship with their current name. The survey also showed that millions of American citizens do not have government-issued photo identification, such as a driver’s license or passport. Finally, the survey demonstrated that certain groups – primarily poor, elderly, and minority citizens – are less likely to possess these forms of documentation than the general population.

As many as 11 percent of United States citizens – more than 21 million individuals – do not have government-issued photo identification.

Elderly citizens are less likely to possess government-issued photo identification.

Minority citizens are less likely to possess government-issued photo identification.

Citizens with comparatively low incomes are less likely to possess photo identification.

Read more

edit on 10-6-2011 by Antiquated1 because: (no reason given)

Problem easily solved with very little effort on the part of the voter. Get ID! Go to your local municipality and get a copy of your birth certificate, or just simply go down and apply for a state ID. There problem solved and now you can vote like the rest of us.
Geesh how lazy can people be, I mean really. And please don't come back with the argument that some people have no record of their birth. There are ways to get ID, and if they want to vote or need ID that badly they would do it. In most states now you are required to carry identification with you anyhow, so they would be doing themselves a favor.

Looking at the early responses to this thread, the 75% figure is believable, if not a bit conservative.

Originally posted by daddyroo45
reply to post by Antiquated1

 

What is the problem with a photo id ?

They are not free nor handed out because you exist.

Most people I know take their face with them wherever they go. I am not advocating RFID by any means,but a simple photo id,come on. What right is that infringing upon ?

That would be the government forcing everyone to purchase something, wouldn't it?

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An individual's presence at the polling place does not imply of confer citizenship.

And just to be just, citizens accepting federal or state assistance should not be eligible to participate in the election process. Only employed, tax-paying citizens over the age of 25 should be able to vote.

Too many children electing too many cartoon clowns is one of our problems.

Voting is a holy obligation not theater for the blind.

Originally posted by mishigas
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All those figures you presented mean very little.

Why?

Those people probably don't vote to begin with.

So they should not be allowed to because you do not thin they will anyway based on nothing?

But this is a wonderful opportunity for them to get something they never had - a picture ID.

You gonna go buy it for them?

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Antiquated1

 

So you provide a survey as a counter point?
Ok. Anything else?

So you provide nothing as a counter to that?

Uh...well played.

You can't do anything in this country without an ID. Buy a house, rent a house, drive a car, get utilities setup, get a credit card, go to school, go to the doctor, etc etc etc.

I agree with the OP, voter fraud plain & simple.



Also to add 75% is a huge number! Around 50% of the people vote, so 25% of the population that doesn't vote still wants those who do to have to show ID. Pretty powerful.