Evidence of Extraterrestrial Message in the Shaft Chamber of the Great Pyramid.

GS, that's wshat RATS is for,

But, it is a shame that it has degraded such.

Were you a 4 year guest lurker?
I know we had a lot, back when anonymous
posting was still allowed.

The whole game definitely has changed

Originally posted by ThreeDeuce
GS, that's wshat RATS is for,

But, it is a shame that it has degraded such.

Were you a 4 year guest lurker?
I know we had a lot, back when anonymous
posting was still allowed.

The whole game definitely has changed

Yea i was a major lurker since 2005, however I never posted anything until I registered....

GS

reply to post by GeminiSky


Same here. I was typically under the impression that a concerted effort to discredit serious questions was taking place here, which is why I really didn't want to register -until I found this. Even then, I just needed to find like ,inds as this isnt the only anomaly ive found in this artwork. I really hope DJED Ireleases new scans, although I don't think we have HD capability with endoscope equipment....this may be the best quality images we get to study for a very long time.

I would like to take a moment and say this - to all who say "why wouldn't they leave a message in metal etc..." the Pyramids have outlived virtually every artifact that known man has developed. Perhaps this IS the best method to communicate over long periods of time. As sophisticated as we are, we just this year figured out how to view the contents of this chamber. Adding to this that we have no certain idea how old the pyramids truly are,(and if you claim to know otherwise you're simply taking the word of someone versus researching for yourself) this could be the best means to outlast the ages.

As science practices today, direct observation without intentional intervention is the best means to study natural development. Perhaps we weren't ever intended to have found this information, this also must be taken into account.

The reason the art has degraded is because there is a small opening visible directly in line with the seated figure. This opening appears to be surrounded by "chips" that are perfectly set with the constellation of Orion. Eons of natural wear and air exposure have taken their toll, but that doesn't mean this is an unbreakable riddle. It is my opinion that we finally have what may be the very first case of pure, unaltered art from the age of the interaction, and I think this should be taken seriously. If you disagree, that's great, but I'm puzzled as to why people who clearly disagree want to spend so much time posting in the thread...I don't spend my days hanging out in pro-Republican threads because I disagree with them. I honestly question the motives of anyone that feels compelled to repeatedly belittle others for studying subjects such as this....


With that, I wish you all a great evening....again, great conversation so far!


Keep searching,
-worldriot

reply to post by Qwenn


I am not being rude you made a clear statement to me in your post .. pointing out that this Mr. Hawass is nothing but a fake .. yes these are you thoughts why direct them to me have I ever in this thread claimed that this guy was not a fake or he was right on??

IMO there is a possibility that there is more to this than we may know ,,and i have never made a claim that the Aliens built the Pyramids or any such other claims.

I believe that the Alien connection is a more spiritual connection and if any of these Entity’s passed through the walls of the Pyramids I would like to know how this image was captured .. so all I have is questions too??
post by Qwenn >>>here is what you posted ok

Page 12

The graffiti which you are talking about and Mr Hawass is so proud to show anyone he can drag in there, is fake, and does not even read what he says it does, a mistake which an Egyptian of the time would never make.

Page 8, of this Thread
Are you referring to this man ?

Djedi is a joint international-Egyptian mission being carried out under the supervision of Dr Zahi Hawass, who has recently been reappointed as Minister for Antiquities in the Egyptian government. The team has committed to completing the work by the end of 2011.

I am just so sick of people taking my words and twisting them into what ever they want to! I posted the link to this project NOW what Mr. Hawass does how would I know ??

Do you know him personally ?? I surely DONT !

If you don’t this man on a personal level >>then how can you make a statement like this do you just assume this ??

I have made a reply to worldriot.. still waiting on a answer .. have you watched the video ?? seriously I have brought this up a few times in this thread yet no discussion about >> that room at the end of the narrow passage way.. it has a ? as to what it is in this video it is like a secret chamber room and to me it appears to have red blobs of blood or paint or who knows what in that room..

I haven’t made any claim in this whole thread to anything thus far .. all I said is yes that figure on the right >> to me looks like a grey Alien so holy Sanflippo out come the post dogs just waiting to eat your words up twist em and spit them out at you LOL

reply to post by worldriot


Not trying to assume anything .. for one images online are just perhaps really hard to look at .. and to make a clear judgment sure anyone can make a fair assessment as to what they think it is .. what’s the credibility behind the thread Subject Heading.. is it a message ??

I don’t think its a message If anything they may have caught a image x ray some how of a alien passing through the walls .. wow did I just say that???? lol sounds even silly to me too but who knows right???

Very mysterious and I don’t think this is just a, money making hoax by the Dr Hawass .. If anything they themselves are trying to see if in fact any of their ancient artifacts could be Alien related .. which would/could mean that they too seen strange things in the sky or had ET experiences .. back in the days of the great pyramids. and the Pharaohs ... that alone would not surprise me one bit ..

reply to post by worldriot


I suppose it's fine to speculate on this, but the bottom line in all of this is...

What exactly about these blobs of paint make people think "Alien"? Why this blob of paint? Why aren't people speculating that cave paintings of a woolly mammoth are painted by aliens? Why aren't people speculating that the Mona Lisa was at least partially painted by aliens? There is nothing at all about these markings in this shaft that scream "Alien!", so why are we spending so much time on alien-related speculation for the markings?

Other red paint markings left by the workers who built the Pyramids have been known about for years. While all of these previously found markings are an incredible archeological find for what they are (personal artifacts left behind by a worker 4500 years ago), what is it about these newly-found markings in this shaft that make some people want to speculate alien involvement?

It just seems odd to have an alien involvement fixation regarding these markings, but not be fixated on other ancient marks. I mean there are a lot of other Egyptian markings that no one has speculated about having alien origins.

Reply to NorthStargal52......

This is assuming a great deal about me, I have been a long time follower of this project and am fully aware of Mr Hawass's career and of who funded it and why, he has been an insider and shill since early days. Perhaps you should look into his background and check out the money trail which put him into his position, then look at his claim, " Everything which is there has been found already, there are no new discoveries to be made ". Well there is plenty more to be found, as has been proved by the new satalite project, I would not put my faith in a bought and paid for agent of the Edgar Cayce organisation, without a conviction that he was actually telling the truth about anything, which he clearly is not !

reply to post by Qwenn


Well I am referring to the comment you made on Dr. Hawass ok. I could give a flying fish about how he is funded what is the purpose ???

Like you said they have a new satellite project then why if you know so much don’t you post it ?? yet you mention stuff but its just hot air??

If none of us can see for ourselves what your talking about why not provide some links show me where all these people are discrediting this Dr Hawass .. I have not read one article of such things .. nor the conection he has with Edgar Cayce??

OK now it’s clear you don’t support it cause of Edgar Cayce.. Well what does Edgar have to do with all this ????

Oh dear, well you clearly don't care what the reality is do you, so why did he land himself in prison for dishonesty and corruption ? Links , why should I bother spoonfeeding you with the truth. Just look for yourself, I am not your mother, you are capable of making such educated deductions, look for yourself. I am sure that most others on here, know exactly what I am talking about. You say you don't care what the facts are, you are right, well, you don't care about the truth, you have decided you are right, full-stop. Ahh, the stupidity of youth ! Look at the fact's, then decide. not decide, then ignore the facts !

P.S. Please re-read your own posts, and realise what you are writing is crazy and dissilusioned, you are intent on believing that Aliens are involved in it, so you won't accept any other explanation !

reply to post by tpg65


dude if you think its a red blob and thats all then why are you even reading this dudes thread still? lik what is holding your interest? it seems to me like you just want to give these people crap because you dont agree with them?

i can definitely see the resemblance of the alien type figure on a throne or some kind of space ship maybe?
it should most definitely be looked at in high definition because these pics just arent cuttin it but just because u dont see something doesnt mean it cant be there. you ever been trying to see something that someones pointing out to you and you dont see anything at all ? then when you look at it in just the right way its an entirely different thing thatn it was before or you even thought it could be. trying to use some kind of personal experience janx prolly isnt the best way for me to try and explain what im trying to say. thing will suprise you man

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

It just seems odd to have an alien involvement fixation regarding these markings, but not be fixated on other ancient marks. I mean there are a lot of other Egyptian markings that no one has speculated about having alien origins.

Its to do with the popular culture that surrounds us right now...... von Däniken, the "Stargate" movie and ludicrously ridiculous tv show "Ancient Aliens".

Go back before in time before Von Danike wrote "Chariots of the Gods" and no one would seriously associate these red blobs with "Aliens".

I'm pretty sure there is evidence lying around of some anomalous nature, I'm definitely not against the ET hypothesis or atlantis for that matter, but unless there is more than just simply vague markings, and honestly these markings aren't as compelling unless there were a more definitive figure is presented.

Based on Cayce's prediction, i'd focus more on the sphinx and finding a hidden subterranean chamber there for proof of connection with atlantean people (which also brings up the whole Extraterrestrial relationship indirectly as well).

Of course we all know even if some thing crazy is actually found, it would probably be walled off or forbidden for anyone to find out. I have a feeling something like that would happen.

reply to post by The Ghost Who Walks


If you don't agree then say nothing because all you do is show everyone what a shallow smart a$$ you are

Originally posted by Illustronic
I've wondered why if extraterrestrial beings helped to construct huge monuments of stone why would they not use instead, exotic metal alloys or first construct some large power generating plant inside to assist in construction possibly with exotic power generating crystal molecules ormake use of some carbon nanosheets to help reinforce the heavy weight placed above or something. But alas all we have are stones stacked really high in a continuously tapering form which is the most gravity-centric means of stacking heavy stones. For that matter why did they not just have nanomachines build the structures instead of all of those human workers, that we do have clear evidence that indeed human workers were employed to stack the stones and human engineers drew up the construction plans educated by past observed failures and successes.

Its because the Great Pyramid was not a monument at all. It was a tool to help fast track mans spiritual evolution, stone was used because it lasts for a very long time and dramaticly helped with the electromagnetic fields and energy resonance.
Metals can not be used to create a pyramid structure that amplifies spiralling energy used in balancing the chakra's and for healing.

The Egyptians copied the Great pyramid to use as tombs for the Pharaohs because of the high energy they contained, they wanted the power for them alone.
There was no need for a power plant because they are so far ahead of us in evolution we can not begin to grasp the power they have at their fingertips............you need to start thinking out of the human box and begin to think like highly spiritually evolved beings with the power of what you would call gods, the power to create anything by thought alone.
Contrary to popular belief positive oriented extraterrestrials have no need for the constant striving for technology, instead they live harmoniously with their environment, any technology they require is only a thought away.

Awesome find, interesting read. I hope this turns out to be something a little more than it appears to be!

S+F

Peace

Originally posted by redrezo

Of course we all know even if some thing crazy is actually found, it would probably be walled off or forbidden for anyone to find out. I have a feeling something like that would happen.

edit on 6-6-2011 by redrezo because: (no reason given)

Absolutely !

Something like this has already happened.

Andrew Collins discovered a place known as 'The Caves Of The Birds' near the Mokattam Formation region (opposite side of the pyramids to the Sphinx) in the cave were lot's of bird (and if memory serves cat) mummies. Which in itself was interesting because it indicated that the cave was some kind of shrine or other ritual place ... but what made it a very exciting discovery was the fact that there was a tunnel system at the back of the cave ... and some of this caves lead back towards the pyramids.

However, once Andrew Collins (member of ATS btw), made this public knowledge guess what happened ?

The eminent crook known as Hawass had the cave sealed off with an iron gate ... 'for the safety of the public' and as far as we peasants are told the tunnels are still blocked and no further exploration has taken place !

Read for yourself;

www.andrewcollins.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

On a personal level this discovery was brilliant news because I had suspected for a long time that there would be something of great importance discovered beyond the pyramids ... considering the ancient Egyptians fascination with the 'as above so below' and the 'mirror image' (reflection) principle ... and with the Sphinx being the X that marked the spot back in the day ... I always believed there had to be a reflection of equal importance in the opposite position beyond the pyramids that will be used for the rediscovery of something that goes way beyond the pyramids, in modern times.

Rather than me babbling on about this here and going off topic just check my link for a full explanation;

www.theatlanteananalysis.webeden.co.uk...

Now on subject, it has already been said by many that the markings mentioned in the OP are probably not of great significance ... but simple mundane markings ... maybe even a doodle. The reason I am inclined to think this is because they are in an inaccessible place that is way too small for even a child to climb into ... so what would be the point of putting a vital message in such a place ... of course I could be totally wrong and these markings might be the most important discovery of the millennium

Either way I think it is important that we remind ourselves that in spite of the fact that the plateau / pyramids have been excavated many, many times and as Hawass insisted 'there is nothing left to be discovered there' ... I believe the best discoveries are still waiting to be revealed ... and I believe these discoveries will be subterraneous ... and huge !

Woody

Originally posted by NorthStargal52
reply to post by Qwenn

 

Well I am referring to the comment you made on Dr. Hawass ok. I could give a flying fish about how he is funded what is the purpose ???

Like you said they have a new satellite project then why if you know so much don’t you post it ?? yet you mention stuff but its just hot air??

If none of us can see for ourselves what your talking about why not provide some links show me where all these people are discrediting this Dr Hawass .. I have not read one article of such things .. nor the conection he has with Edgar Cayce??

OK now it’s clear you don’t support it cause of Edgar Cayce.. Well what does Edgar have to do with all this ????

Just to address a couple of points, you say you don't care who paid to put him through his Egyptian qualifications, so that he could be appointed to his antiquities post. Well for anyone with an enquiring and open mind, the first thing to investigate, who he is and where he came from, that helps you to assess how much of the truth he will tell.

As for providing links, apart from the fact that I don't know how to, I only reffer to things which I know other people on here have already researched. There is a big world out there which was there before the internet, called BOOKS, some people now seem to think that the only place to find the truth is the internet.

It is not hard to find information about Mr Hawass and his reputation for fraud, it has even been discussed on ATS many times. Guess what, someone even posted a LINK to an article about how he faked the air shaft footage and how he was in serious trouble for fraud and dishonesty.

Perhaps you need to reserch the Edgar Cayce Foundation and A.R.E. , but you may need to check a book or two if you are really interested in why they needed someone put into the position he was, that was searching for certain artifacts and locations, because they totally believe the Cayce predictions.

You see, Edgar has nothing to do with it, he is long dead, but there are groups which want what he promised was there for the taking.

As for the sattalite project which you think is me spouting hot air, there was a 2 hour doccumentary on it on BBC 1 last weekend, I can't provide a link, does that prove that I am lying, no because others on ATS saw it as well. You probably missed it because you were sitting in front of a computer following LINKS.

There is a great thread on ATS at the moment, about peoples attitudes and manners to others on the internet, I suggest you read it !

reply to post by Qwenn


Bah ,, if I wanted to valid information I would provide a link.. but You on the otherhand spew out assumtions lol weak judgements>>>> oh he went to jail .BIG deal >>.come on really !!!!! dont worrie with your type of attitude and absolutlely no proof for what you say its all BS .. ill move along with my own thoughts and im fully aware of what my post say im not fixed on anything as of yet . ... lol you are funny ..

reply to post by Qwenn


Oh must we be so sarcastic .. this always makes me think im dealing with a child. The point is Dr Hawass even if he is what you say he is what does this have to do with the markings in that shaft chamber????

That is why I said who cares .. I am interested in the project itself and if it is jus a blob of red paint or blood or whatever the marking to the right does resemble something like an outline of a grey ET.

ET's are enitys and whether or not it left it's presence or not who know's .. So the project itself is all rubbish according to you .. and none of the ancient symbols or artifact have noting at all to do with Exrtraterrestrial's is that what your also saying ???

reply to post by woodwytch


Thsnks for the insight .. I come here to find stuff out and other people such as you who have read into this as I have not ..

oh I have but only >>on an off but.... never followed it faithfully. Now that you mention Hawass being a crook and that other person saying he went ot jail brings my mind back to the year 2002 or 3 when I kinda remember the jail thing but I may be all off its been that long .. ok we have a crook .. he claims there is noting else left to discover well like you say .. you have other thoughts as to that issue .. well me too .. For one its not goig to jump out at us. if its a paranormal thing or Alien related ..IMO

I have to agree maybe in time with more intense technology someday something may be revealed ..