A Better World Without Men?

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

You are not understanding the big picture. It can be boiled down to a very basic sentence. This energy is in balance between the two sexes.

Men are the accelerator peddle and women are the break peddle.

Without the male energy most chances for our best advancements would not be made, they would have been deemed to dangerous.

If it were not for the female energy of caution then we would have self imploded long ago.

One energy cannot live without the other. Its the dualistic universe that keeps its balance.

I have no problem with balance. In fact that is what I am arguing for! I'm saying that we have a disproportionate number of men committing violent crimes as opposed to women. When men cut down on the violent crime and can reach the levels that women currently hold, this world would be a far safer place. I'm not advocating the elimination of the male species, I'm advocating a path to reducing the male criminally violent streak.

Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

You dont know what your talking about.

Your speaking off the top of your head and arnt giving a RATIONAL view.

Start posting sources into your thread on where your getting MOST WOMEN from.

edit on 04/30/2011 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

Please explain what parts of my original post you are refuting. Quote them and argue against them. That's the way to a good discussion. What would you like me to post a source for? I posted a source for incarceration rates of men and women in the United States. Anything else you'd like me to post sources on?

The violence I see on a weekly basis is women on women - There are fewer and fewer men around.

When males are not present in their lives, women will become the men and through that, just as violent.

-GM

reply to post by 2manyquestions


Nothing. Aparantly you have had problems in relationships as it is fairly obvious. and your blaming it all on the men. Im not going to say everything i want to say to you as it is over the Internet. Im going to drop it before i flip out.


The problems you have had in a Relationship are your problems. No one else really cares , people will give you sympathy on here or what not , but theyll forget it in 30 minutes. So it seems like you have a problem with relationships and you want to blame it on the general MEN population.

Its your problem. Not ours. Stay single and you wont have to worry about anything. So aggervating.

Originally posted by milkyway12
Yeah guess why. Women werent Generally allowed into power until very recently.

Congragulations on your thread on Bashing men.

If you want to get Technical the only reason men need women is for Sex thats about it , you cant do anything we cant do ... better probably since im getting Frustrated with the idiotic reason this thread is made.


Only thing we would be missing is Sex. Same for women.

I wish a MOD would lock this.

edit on 04/30/2011 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

Good thing you're not a mod. You'd probably lock every thread based on it's title alone. I bet you didn't read the original post. Your frustration with a topic you didn't even read is pretty striking and telling of your character. Good work my friend.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions

Originally posted by YayMayorBee
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

Please re-read my post. It was regarding purpose driven mentalities which in a way you proved with the names above. I also said they are never 100% honorable.

Both men and women are driven by their desires. The difference is that most driven women won't do just about anything to get ahead. Some will, but the male species is most famous for wreaking havoc on a country or culture in order to impose his will on others. This isn't exactly a positive trait in my opinion. You named men who have had some positive influence on our world, and I named men who had a significantly negative effect on the world. I'm sure there have been a couple of female rulers in history who were cruel leaders, but this is just another place where the male species takes a big lead.

edit on 3-6-2011 by 2manyquestions because: (no reason given)

Can you prove women will not do anything to get ahead? and hiding behind a man doesn't count.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
If you examine the news of any day or year, you will find plenty of articles on men who have committed some violent crime or another. From rape, abuse, brutal murder, violent attacks, bar fights, to fraud, drug and human trafficking, most of these are committed by the males.

You are quite correct, the only caveat I would add is that there are many more men who do not participate in such acts than men who do.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Admittedly there are many women who also commit horrific acts. They are not to be left out of this discussion completely, but the ratio of male crimes vs. female crimes seems much higher than it should be.

Agreed.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
I can tell you that if I decide to travel to a seedy neighborhood, I'm not afraid of what some woman might do to me, I'm more afraid of what a man, or group of men might do to me for my car, my money, or any number of things they may not like about me.

Same here, and I'm a guy. By the same token I can drive through a nice neighborhood without a care in the world, so I would argue that eliminating all men is not the answer here.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
So then what is it about the male sex which makes it so prone to committing crimes? Is it the upbringing? Testosterone? Social conditioning? Social pressures on the male that lead them to a powerful desire to overachieve in any way possible? Since not all men are violent or commit crimes, what is it about the male sex that lands so many in a jail cell?

I would say the largest part of it is circumstances. Criminals are typically born to uncaring parents (one of which is often MIA), raised by street thugs and educated in a pathetic shadow of a school system that contains teachers more concerned about staying alive than educating students. They are destined for failure from the moment they are born.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Do you sometimes find yourself out of control? Do you feel like there's no other alternative to causing physical damage? I know that sports can sometimes relieve that pressure, but clearly it may not be enough. What helps you stay in control, and do you believe everyone has the ability to fight off the "natural" urge to become violent?

I've gotten very mad, but then again so has my wife. I've never done physical damage or become violent in any way though, and I don't think there's any justification for that type of behavior.

We've demonstrated as a society that we are incapable of solving this problem, simply throwing the offenders in jail is clearly not fixing things. We can debate over why this happened in the first place and what to do to fix it, but for me, from a Christian perspective, I see this all as the End Times scenario that Christ warned would happen when he said things like there would be an "increase of wickedness", and "the love of most will grow cold". I'm not saying we shouldn't try to do what we can to alleviate it, but I truly believe that regardless of our efforts it will continue to get worse until Christ's return.

Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

Nothing. Aparantly you have had problems in relationships as it is fairly obvious. and your blaming it all on the men. Im not going to say everything i want to say to you as it is over the Internet. Im going to drop it before i flip out.


The problems you have had in a Relationship are your problems. No one else really cares , people will give you sympathy on here or what not , but theyll forget it in 30 minutes. So it seems like you have a problem with relationships and you want to blame it on the general MEN population.

Its your problem. Not ours. Stay single and you wont have to worry about anything. So aggervating.

Oh good! You're arguing a point via personal attacks. That's always a great way to win arguments. You're making unfounded assumptions about my personal life. You know, it would have taken you five minutes to read the original post and realize that you're "flipping out" over nothing.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

You are not understanding the big picture. It can be boiled down to a very basic sentence. This energy is in balance between the two sexes.

Men are the accelerator peddle and women are the break peddle.

Without the male energy most chances for our best advancements would not be made, they would have been deemed to dangerous.

If it were not for the female energy of caution then we would have self imploded long ago.

One energy cannot live without the other. Its the dualistic universe that keeps its balance.

I have no problem with balance. In fact that is what I am arguing for! I'm saying that we have a disproportionate number of men committing violent crimes as opposed to women. When men cut down on the violent crime and can reach the levels that women currently hold, this world would be a far safer place. I'm not advocating the elimination of the male species, I'm advocating a path to reducing the male criminally violent streak.

why not have women rise up to were men are?

reply to post by 2manyquestions


So if we can do it all day long then let’s start?
Ill start with. Your previous page talking about freedom and the freedom of speech. Again, wonder who designed the bill of rights and the Constitution of United States?

You mentioned Hitler? How about the 6,603 American MEN that died during D-day to stop him. One bad apple, 6,603 courageous among hundred of thousands more who were in Europe during that time. Pretty uneven ratio in my favor. Do us a favor, instead of question men and their violence, next time just say thank you and be on your way and happy for what you have been given.


"Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent." ~Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

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What about the violent nagging most men are subjected to through marriage? It becomes a life draining soul killing energy that is worst than death. Almost all women try to change the man into something that fits them, yet he loses what made him what she wanted in the first place then she whines about not having the man she married and wants him back.

I think one of the worlds deepest problems is the all American woman. They have been brainwashed into being very unrealistic and just plain nuts. I could go on and on.

We need to get back to the way we were meant to be.

Not the total confused mess we have become.

Originally posted by 2manyquestions

Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

You dont know what your talking about.

Your speaking off the top of your head and arnt giving a RATIONAL view.

Start posting sources into your thread on where your getting MOST WOMEN from.

edit on 04/30/2011 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

Please explain what parts of my original post you are refuting. Quote them and argue against them. That's the way to a good discussion. What would you like me to post a source for? I posted a source for incarceration rates of men and women in the United States. Anything else you'd like me to post sources on?

yes please post a source for % and actual number of each crime murder, rape, and torture, for both men and women compared to the number of men and women over all.

Originally posted by Doublemint

Originally posted by 2manyquestions

Originally posted by YayMayorBee
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

Please re-read my post. It was regarding purpose driven mentalities which in a way you proved with the names above. I also said they are never 100% honorable.

Both men and women are driven by their desires. The difference is that most driven women won't do just about anything to get ahead. Some will, but the male species is most famous for wreaking havoc on a country or culture in order to impose his will on others. This isn't exactly a positive trait in my opinion. You named men who have had some positive influence on our world, and I named men who had a significantly negative effect on the world. I'm sure there have been a couple of female rulers in history who were cruel leaders, but this is just another place where the male species takes a big lead.

edit on 3-6-2011 by 2manyquestions because: (no reason given)

Can you prove women will not do anything to get ahead? and hiding behind a man doesn't count.

Look at the incarceration statistics. The round-about male incarceration population is 80-86%, while only about 18-20% are women. What does that tell you? It tells me that women are far less likely to commit crimes (petty and violent) as opposed to men. Will some women do anything to get ahead? Yes, there have been cases in which that happened, but clearly men lead the way by a huge margin.

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I was at the UAE for 3 years and what I saw was different from anything I see on the MSM
FYI all women in Suadi Arabia have the Latest cars that u can't afford with drivers 24/7
All Arab women go to school and finish college unlike our women that barely go through highschool which most drop out or get pregnant
our society has turned our women into whores and sluts because too much freedom was given to them
In saudi arabia , they do NOT allow a girl outside the house without any supervision in fear of the worse
which I think is what we should have done years ago !!!

Oi.... my thoughts on this thread......

Feminism... Get over yourself...



Believe me this is a woman dominated society.. Just ask any man with a wife..

Originally posted by 2manyquestions

Originally posted by Doublemint

Originally posted by 2manyquestions

Originally posted by YayMayorBee
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

Please re-read my post. It was regarding purpose driven mentalities which in a way you proved with the names above. I also said they are never 100% honorable.

Both men and women are driven by their desires. The difference is that most driven women won't do just about anything to get ahead. Some will, but the male species is most famous for wreaking havoc on a country or culture in order to impose his will on others. This isn't exactly a positive trait in my opinion. You named men who have had some positive influence on our world, and I named men who had a significantly negative effect on the world. I'm sure there have been a couple of female rulers in history who were cruel leaders, but this is just another place where the male species takes a big lead.

edit on 3-6-2011 by 2manyquestions because: (no reason given)

Can you prove women will not do anything to get ahead? and hiding behind a man doesn't count.

Look at the incarceration statistics. The round-about male incarceration population is 80-86%, while only about 18-20% are women. What does that tell you? It tells me that women are far less likely to commit crimes (petty and violent) as opposed to men. Will some women do anything to get ahead? Yes, there have been cases in which that happened, but clearly men lead the way by a huge margin.

maybe thats the problem this information just doesn't tell me what it tells you. you give a percent for all incarcerations there are non-violent incarcerations and you are makeing a point about violence so you need to remove the percent for non-violent incarcerations. and then you need to come up with a number of how many people don't get caught your numbers are very basic and genral and just doesn't tell me that much.

OP, you have alienated both the men and women of this thread by making harsh generalizations.

Good job. For realz. You come across as being a bitter ball busting man hater.

reply to post by 2manyquestions


I know your arguement, I did read your post. your basically stating that the aggression in males is not necessary. That aggression should be weeded out. Now if you wanted less arguements, maybe the topic title shouldn't read "A better World Without Men?" What your saying through all your jibber jabber is men aren't needed.

Also, why shouldn't you walk down a dark alley and not be worried and afraid, or go for a jog late at night through a park without fear? I ask you this: Why should you not wander into the cage of hungry lions at the zoo?
This really comes down to destroying the evil tendancies in males for violence, when we really look at it, most males do not commit senseless crimes of violence. The ones who commit rape and murder ect... are only a small part of the population.

Just because your living in an environment build of cement and steel away from mother nature, doesn't mean your free from the forces of danger that is apart of nature. Nature being the force that dictates everything outside your tiny scope of control. Some people's nature has no bearing on good intentions whether thats male or female. All you really can do is learn to protect yourself and keep your survival instincts sharp.

To be completely honest with you I have had more altercations with females then with males. Want to know why? These females believe because I am a male that I will be forced to tolerate their BS and bullying. They believe that because they are a female that no real danger applies to them because it is generally viewed as socially unacceptable for a male to strike a female. (Which for the most part I believe in) So they think they were untouchable. Which is not the case. Some of the females I had altercations with believed they could stand toe to toe with me. Its like a poodle vs a T-rex. No chance.

So why do these females act more violent and aggressive then males? I have seen more fights and acts of violence involving females then males in today's youth. So how do you explain that? Where does this stand with your theory that aggression in males is the source of the world's problems??

reply to post by milkyway12


She cant. She just got done with her first Womens Studies course from Northwestern or Berkley or some other school like that. When you take those courses and go to those schools, its no longer about books, its more about yelling, name calling, and nonsense. And is probably real good at believing everything she has been told by her teacher.


"Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties - provided we're only talking about criminals."
Ann Coulter

Funny your political party is strong supporter of these same men who do all of this violence. Seems kind of obvious to me that you should be classified as a hypocrite

You know after being close with the same woman for nearly 18 years I can say ...

that just about everything a man does is for a woman and ...

just about everything a woman does is for a woman.

So I would say women pretty much rule this place ...

though sometimes they just like to pretend they don't

... which I might add is just part of their strategy of control