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Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
Originally posted by Brianegan
reply to post by Quantum_Squirrel
bc it can still be so much better and you are just settleing
i am not settling for anything , we all play the cards we are dealt.. it just that you have an excuse why your cards are not very good .. simple as that...
and whilst you bask in your pre-concieved bubble, the rest of us will deal with reality.
Save yourself!!! no one will do it for you
You judged me incorrectly first buddy.......What you can dish it but when i judge you incorrectly in return you can handel it......
Go tell someone who cares.
until you realize that im so pissed off because of how amazing you really are and how many times you deny it saying god sucks........I want to end your life at that very moment bc you are wasting it and not using it at all......You are a mere fraction of what you could be and this stupid free will nonsense is the only thing holding you back
I tell you how to get passed and you say good enough.......we since its everyone or no one guess what needs to happen?
the world will need to be cleansed of those who will not understand so that the rest can evolve.....
we have been waiting for you for so long......we are not as patient as you would think but we have waited and waited and waited.......Your type of shared thinking is what is keeping us in this circle of progressive agression.....
Did you think really that it was going to be that we choose to follow you and let you take us down with you.......You can forget that sh**. We have waited for you and like to understand and have tried so many different ways to tell you it so you may hear it.....
The only thing that has kept things at bay for this long is the fact that more people keep getting it right so the numbers grow........
Well thats not enough anymore because time is running out and even those who understood would suffer when the clock stops.....
You are truely lost if you believe that you have any will over another and we will show you what you missed while you were enjoying everyhting about yourself.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by Quantum_Squirrel
hahaha...Thank you sooo much! My thoughts are provided by a lot of hours of reading and finding out for myself where it is I will go when I take my last breath. My steps sons death along with other deaths saved me from myself as I would have never been as humble and loving. You are talking to someone who was at one time full of anger and and would rather hit someone that looked at me the wrong way.
I wanted more....especially after my step son died. His dad buried him in his Bulls jacket...for the fear he would be cold. After much reading and conveying to him the love I was feeling through other books than just the Bible...he too is convinced that where Joshua is..he will be also. Its sad that a tragedy can turn many over to the light of love.....but its true and factual. Its a sacrifice in a sense. I mean...we are all destined for death or re birth if you will. This is just a moment in time that will quickly pass. The time spent here on this Planet can be used in a way to help others be happy. Its not all about me or you...its about US as a whole...right? hahaha
Thanks again babe! xoxox Much love for you and yours!
Originally posted by balon0
3 words comes to mind when it comes to Mormons
endless
celestial
sex
Originally posted by seenitall
I think you should take your 'god' drivel and jam it up your arse.
Religion is the root of all suffering, and people such as myself have had an absolute gutful of the hate you all spew. The inquisition, just about any war you can think of, rampant overpopulation (this is partly the fault of our economic paradigm too I will admit), terrorism, violence inspired by 'god'.
I have had enough of tolerating the extremism and insanity of religion and WILL NOT put up with it anymore. Even the other day I had a half smacked out street preacher talking to me like I was a moron, trying to explain that evolution is false and misleading, all religions other than Christianity are the work of the devil, and that if I repent my sins now I will be saved. I'm the hater though right?.... Um ok then.
The ENTIRE problem is the faith in a fuzzy man in the sky who will look after you when you're dead.
How about this; use you common sense and reason, and live your life as if it may be your only chance. You will accomplish more and not be brainwashed with the hate fuelled propoganda of ANY religion, because you will see how stupid than organised religion actually is.
I'm not saying there is nothing after death for I could not know, but organised religion is a curse on our species and should be destroyed. The type of organised religion that inspires hate and fuels massive ego trips.
Have you every thought about what you happen if all of a sudden, everyone lost their sense of ego? The world would change overnight.
You ever read the old testament? Starting to get my point?
I will no longer tolerate organised religion, much like people in the past have not tolerated alien abduction, ghost, monster or fairy stories. Its fantasy for adults, but much more dangerous.
You brainwash your children, you influence global economics and politics, you are the cause of countless wars, you contribute to the deaths of innocent people around the globe, you promote ignorance and denounce reason. Yes this means YOU. If you support organised religion then you are a part of a whole that is slowly but surely dragging our species into, ironically, 'hell on earth'.
Originally posted by allourep
Not sure about everyone else, but I am tired of the front page posts lately. They all seem to be rants/thoughts just typed out in one big paragraph. I didn't read this one and dont plan on it. I am just sick of clicking new threads and all it is is somebody rambling about themselves/their opinions. I remember not long ago you could find stories about current events with links on this site. In fact, yous still can but for some reason this kind of content is what has been displayed on the front. Why?
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
Like others, I did not read the entire piece yet, but I would like to answer the question regarding giving one's free will back to God. That question seems relatively easy, because of one important thing. If one has no free will, and God determines one's actions, then that person is no longer responsible for those actions. So basically what I mean is that God should let you into heaven no matter what.
For a while I wrestled with the belief that God doesn't interfere in the Universe at all, finally deciding that he may indeed interfere regularly. Surely the people who know much more about theology and the Christian religion, for example, would not advocate prayer if they did not believe that God interferes and can change the outcomes of things.
I also asked myself questions regarding quantum mechanics, specifically entanglement and the duality of particles, and how it seemed that these characteristics overall allowed creationism a more valid foothold, at least in my opinion.
So the question of free will can be looked at from two different perspectives. First, is it the physics and chemistry that decide our actions, or is it God, or do we really have free will? To me, again, from the angle of God controlling one's will, it is very easy to see that everyone would get into heaven if this were the case, because God would be the one who caused them to do bad things as well as good, etc...
Free will is simply complicated. The issue at least. Philosophers have puzzled over it for centuries, but I think the answer, right or wrong, can be found only on an individual basis. So many other things come into play, such as the nature of consciousness, and how much of our actions are caused by decisions we made, or are the decisions themselves dictated by the chemistry of the brain? Very sketchy stuff, mainly because it involves more than one discipline; those being scientific, theological, philosophical, logical, etc...
I don't have all the answers for everyone, and only a few of them for myself, but one thing is certain: we would all be better off to consider and debate these ideas, constantly expanding and revising our opinions and beliefs as needed.edit on 6/1/11 by JiggyPotamus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by gabby2011
There is always free will...only consequences
Originally posted by allourep
reply to post by allourep
Another thing. I am surprised how many of you bother reading posts like these. How do you have the time? Not only am I surprised about how many posts like this there are, but the comments that follow are endless. "Well, I still haven't read all of your post because its so long, but I will reply when I am done." "Read some of it now but will have to finish when I get home from work." Really? What is there to gain from reading these sort of posts? DO you read every like this that is posted? There are sooooo many.
Originally posted by cry93
reply to post by TheReturnisNear
Remember Enoch himself here. Recall the wheel within the wheel and Merkaba. I sincerely believe Enoch was "raptured" and taken up due to his extreme spiritual maturity.
Enoch was a very wise man.
Originally posted by seenitall
Let me preempt the expected (and totally canned) response:
If 'god' loves me, and 'god' exists, then he/she/it will be happy that I recognise the collosal misinterpretation by particular members of our species of the 'prophets'.
Basically I think Jesus and the like were just people who were much more in touch with their inner selves and did not rely on massive ego to drive them through life, and thus the message was misinterpreted by those that could know no other way.
I'm done now.
Originally posted by Brianegan
Originally posted by allourep
reply to post by allourep
Another thing. I am surprised how many of you bother reading posts like these. How do you have the time? Not only am I surprised about how many posts like this there are, but the comments that follow are endless. "Well, I still haven't read all of your post because its so long, but I will reply when I am done." "Read some of it now but will have to finish when I get home from work." Really? What is there to gain from reading these sort of posts? DO you read every like this that is posted? There are sooooo many.
They read it because they know something is coming and they search desperately for what it is....Since they know it has something to do with the concepts Im speaking on they wish to test it......all the while committing the same offence they are punishable for in the first place......
Their judgment.
Originally posted by Starwise
I Honor the Goddess in all her forms.......so to you, what does that mean?
Originally posted by cry93
reply to post by seenitall
And IMO this is highly possible. I do believe the original message was misinterpreted. But don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
Is there nothing in KJV of the Bible that speaks to your spiritual self? For me, Psalms and 1Corinthians are beautiful.
Originally posted by babybunnies
God won't have any thing to do with this, at all.
God never helped anyone, people helped themselves. Anyone who says "God did it for me" will find out with a good hard look at themselves that no, he didn't. You did it for yourselves.
Make your own luck, don't rely on God to do it all for you. God never helped anyone in the history of mankind who didn't help themselves.
Originally posted by thedeadwalkk
sorry, but once you mention religion I didn't bother to read on.
I do believe in higher intelligences out there ( IE ET civilizations that have been around for a very very very very very long time ). But thats not a god, just people that are smarter then us and have been around longer then us.
Originally posted by seenitall
reply to post by cry93
Read my first post and you will understand how I feel.
I do not completely discount the idea of something after death, however I am thoroughly Atheist, and I can say this after having been forced into a religious upbringing. I guess god is upset that I questioned things? I embraced what is referred to as reason and critical thought, grew up, and became a scientist.