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Originally posted by facedye
isn't it hilarious how "evidence" gets presented in our human experience? now i don't mean to sound like i'm talking after the fact, because like most of us here, i'm still in limbo on whether or not extraterrestrials REALLY are here on this planet.
the interesting part is that no matter what you believe or what kind of evidence you have, it's all questionable - even at moments like these, when air pilots talk amongst themselves about UFO's like they happen every single day they're on the job. to them, it's obvious they're out there. to the rest of us who don't personally fly around the world or have exceptionally professional capturing/recording equipment, the jury's still out.
what a weird world we live in.
great find! although, the skeptic in me wants to find out the validity in the source. where exactly does this recording come from? also, i'm confused - why mention that digital cameras weren't as readily available in 2001? is this when the event took place?
Originally posted by Thill
With all those sightings of orange/red/yellow "plasma" balls all over the world (I have witnessed it as well above my own house), I am becoming convinced that this might be some kind of organism that has not been discovered yet.edit on 30/5/11 by Thill because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JimOberg
Is there some basic information on the KLM report such as date/time (GMT). location, and viewing azimuth (north, east, what?). Why hasn't anyone else asked for this basic stuff already?
Also, since the first report was relative to the takeoff vector, how about somebody tell us the runway location and number (compass orientation) so we can get an azimuth on the light.
Originally posted by JimOberg
Is there any hope of finding any of this material?
Originally posted by JimOberg
Is there some basic information on the KLM report such as date/time (GMT). location, and viewing azimuth (north, east, what?). Why hasn't anyone else asked for this basic stuff already?
Also, since the first report was relative to the takeoff vector, how about somebody tell us the runway location and number (compass orientation) so we can get an azimuth on the light.
Originally posted by facedye
isn't it hilarious how "evidence" gets presented in our human experience? now i don't mean to sound like i'm talking after the fact, because like most of us here, i'm still in limbo on whether or not extraterrestrials REALLY are here on this planet.
the interesting part is that no matter what you believe or what kind of evidence you have, it's all questionable - even at moments like these, when air pilots talk amongst themselves about UFO's like they happen every single day they're on the job. to them, it's obvious they're out there. to the rest of us who don't personally fly around the world or have exceptionally professional capturing/recording equipment, the jury's still out.
what a weird world we live in.
great find! although, the skeptic in me wants to find out the validity in the source. where exactly does this recording come from? also, i'm confused - why mention that digital cameras weren't as readily available in 2001? is this when the event took place?
Originally posted by JimOberg
Is there some basic information on the KAL report such as date/time (GMT). location, and viewing azimuth (north, east, what?). Why hasn't anyone else asked for this basic stuff already?
Also, since the first report was relative to the takeoff vector, how about somebody tell us the runway location and number (compass orientation) so we can get an azimuth on the light.
edit on 30-5-2011 by JimOberg because: add runway request
Originally posted by ZforZionism
Originally posted by JimOberg
Is there any hope of finding any of this material?
Originally posted by JimOberg
Is there some basic information on the KLM report such as date/time (GMT). location, and viewing azimuth (north, east, what?). Why hasn't anyone else asked for this basic stuff already?
Also, since the first report was relative to the takeoff vector, how about somebody tell us the runway location and number (compass orientation) so we can get an azimuth on the light.
ATC asked the pilots to make a report of the event. So that report should be available from the airliner or whoever those reports are submitted.