Woman spits on another at a local Wal-Mart, faces deportation to Saudi Arabia

Nasty. What's up with the spitting?

Um...does she think she's a camel? Camels are known to spit when they're irritated. But she should know spitting at humans won't resolve anything. I am wondering if she's a muslim woman that happens to be afraid of anyone approaching her or trying to help her out. Anyway...I don't care if she gets deported, she's not assimilating to American culture...and she seems to hate Americans in general. Perhaps Saudi Arabia is better suited for her.

Why not just give a fine and fire her?

She won't get a another job with that and a picture of her in the news anyway.

Deportation to Arabia is like giving the death penalty, if she was an extreme devoted Muslim I doubt they would/could have printed that picture of her with her hair uncovered, without creating more Muslim extremist hate or a lawsuit.

I don't think that any westernised Muslim would sympathize with her case.

Originally posted by Grey Magic
Why not just give a fine and fire her?
She won't get a another job with that and a picture of her in the news anyway.
Deportation to Arabia is like giving the death penalty, if she was an extreme devoted Muslim I doubt they would/could have printed that picture of her with her hair uncovered, without creating more Muslim extremist hate or a lawsuit.
I don't think that any westernised Muslim would sympathize with her case.

a) why would deportation amount to a death sentence?
b) the article clearly states that while the nature of the crime starts off as a misdemeanor, her self-confessed direction of the crime towards one particular group turns it into a hate crime....a felony which triggers a deportation order.
c) her nationality is irrelevant...young ladies don't have to be Saudi to suffer from Princess syndrome. I'd say she would be more than a little naive to try and pull it off in a Walmart to begin with.
d) to the French national who was spat upon in Chicago...just because one is American, that doesn't mean one can't also be a jerk. But as a frequent visitor to the States I can say your experience is not at all typical, and most Americans would be appalled to hear it.

Let us take her to a diffusion center and teach her how to love America

This is not a deportable offense, unless she has some terminal infectious disease and had knowledge of this fact at the time of the assault, e.g., HIV/AIDS.

She's likely a naturalized citizen or, at least, a permanent resident.

So the only way she will be deported is if 1) she is here illegally, 2) she has an outstanding order of removal against her, 3) she's been convicted of other deportable offenses, or 4) she's diseased and gets convicted of the current offense.

If you are going to come here and act like that you should be sent back. We already have enough people that were born here that act like that.

reply to post by mblahnikluver


There could be three possibilities:

1. She snapped at the wrong person.
2. There is more to the story.
3. She is a hater.

The first and second is as plausible as third, because Islambaphobia is widespread in US, taunts and insults has been thrown excessively, physical abuse and even murder has been attempted.

All of that being said, it does not excuse her behavior, but if she just snapped at the wrong people, it is understandable.

Regarding whether her deportation is justified? No, deporting someone for spitting on someone? I would rather refer her to doctors to do a checkup on her psychological status, instead of deporting her.

Originally posted by confreak
Regarding whether her deportation is justified? No, because that would be hate crime as in itself, hence more heinous crimes are committed by immigrants, but they are not deported at all.
The truth is, there could be much, much more to this story.

The key could be the following:

Al-Doaifi had been studying at Florida Tech until earlier this year. The school had initiated procedures to have her sent back to Saudi Arabia after she spat at a professor, according to police. www.newser.com...

...in which case they could be expelling her and thereby nullifying her student visa. Hence being tossed back home. I agree that there is likely more to the story, including a personality disorder, but when you're a guest in another land...best show some manners.

Why do they hate us so much? We "allow" them to come here and enjoy all of our liberties and opportunities. They matriculate into our societies and communities. Yet they bring with them and sustain their enslaving cultural practices with perpetual disdain for us. They self-limit their involvement, isolate themselves and denounce our lifestyles yet they insist on coming here.

Are they all plants to bring us down or what?

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Saying Americans push people around, doesn't make it a hate crime. She didn't say she hates Americans, her attorney confirmed that.

This story has been blown out of proportion, why not, political distraction is exactly what America needs right now.

"A 66-year-old man is facing ethnic intimidation charges after he allegedly verbally abused a female Muslim-American customer at an Oxford Walmart on Tuesday. The woman is speaking out and says she doesn’t want this to happen to anyone else....

James Currin Jr., 66, confronted her and asked: “Hey, are you Muslim?” When she said yes, Currin began swearing, spitting at her and told her to go back “wherever you came from,” she said.
"
Source

The thing about the above case is, that the 66-year-old wasn't charged with hate crime, rather with ethnic intimidation charges which is regarded as misdemeanor.

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Well you summed it up quiet clearly there, thanks for that.

If she is being expelled for spitting on a professor, clearly justifiable therefore ending her student Visa and starting the process of deportation.

Additionally I also agree fully that when you are guest in someone else's home, show some respect, it is the least expected of you.

I'd say the woman has mental issues. Seriously though, spitting is disgusting and can spread disease. If she does not like Americans of her adopted home, I fully support her return to Saudi Arabia, where I'm sure she'll be happy with absolutely no rights at all, so she won't be allowed an education to enable her to spit on professors.

There is nothing that aggravates me more than immigrants who are blatantly racist towards the people of their new home. It's like being invited to someone's house for dinner, and insulting everything they own, as well as their personality, whilst eating the meal they've been given and helping themselves to whatever they want from the fridge and the host's wallet.

I see it this way...

She's a guest in the country and appears to have a 'hatred' for it's people (and probably many other things I would imagine). She is a repeat offender (spitting is considered a form of assault) and the United States is under no obligation to keep her in the country. Simple solution for me!

If someone was a guest in my house, and they spat in the faces of a few of the residents or other guests, she/he would be immediately ejected from the house/property with the clear instructions never to return. I would imagine that my reaction would not be the exception to the rule in that most other civilised people would do the exact same thing.

I see no difference in giving this woman her marching orders from the country. In fact, I feel fairly comfortable with it. One can only wonder what type of treatment she would get in her own country for such an offence. She's getting off lightly by comparison in the US IMHO.

IRM

reply to post by DeepThoughtCriminal


Mental issue? Ya, it's called hatred.

reply to post by mblahnikluver


Deportation seems a bit harsh, unless her visa has expired, in which she should be deported as should anyone here with out proper authorization if they are discovered for any reason.

Better to give her community service at a local Jewish charity.

Send her back! It's a hate crime!

just one question, if i came into your house, invited of course, and i phlegmed in your face would you still be happy entertaining me for the evening? bet youd turf me out onto the street (in effect deport me to the curb!) and everyone you know would support you in your actions!
would anyone take my side if i told them you were a bit pushy at times?
I wholeheartedly agree with the decisions that have been taken, I just wish itd happen to any individual who is a guest in my country who feels the need to disrespect my country by ignoring our laws!