Only the Beginning - The REAL Reason behind May 21st, 2011 and the Rapture Prophecy

reply to post by dilly1


ah the herb, yes very very useful. i know you read less than a fraction of what i wrote. regardless much love and safe discovery ;]]]]]

My two cents/opinion:

All anyone has to do to avoid this potential manipulation is to take a cautious and skeptical, yet nevertheless compassionate and respectful, tact toward such predictions. That way one isn't taken in, yet remains open minded to possibilities (however slight one knows they may be,) and avoids ridiculing or “groupthinking” those who make such predictions.

Thus if a prediction should ever unfold that is true, people won't be too desensitized to at least consider it fairly, but people will also avoid being fooled by charlatans (or simply mistaken people,) and will not contribute to any potential conspiracy (however unlikely some consider such a conspiracy to be) to manipulate them into “boy who cried wolf syndrome” in the event of any future, real, prediction.

(This is all assuming the scenario in which this was part of an ongoing, intentional deception intended to condition people's response to such predictions, mind you... something I neither believe nor disbelieve.)

Again, just my two cents. Peace.

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a privately owned radio broadcasting company wanted some publicity and for his followers to free themselves of the wordly possessions

just old fashioned greed in my eyes

People can't seem to grasp just how much the internet has changed the world.

In 1994, Camping's prediction barely received any press because the internet back then was still in it's very early stages, not to mention the 24 hour news cycle was still in its infancy as well.

I think some of you need to get a grip.

Originally posted by Damian-007
If any of you believe that something "Earth Shattering" is going to happen in 2012, you're also going to be very disappointed. Same as this latest "Earth Is Going To End" Hoax.

You may be right for now, but eventually something will happen. Maybe not 2012 or 2013 or 20-anything, but something will happen and someone will likely be trumpeting about it right before it does. Doesnt make them a prophet or anything; I'm just sayin'. There'll be an asteroid or comet collision, massive volcanic eruption; whatever, but something will happen. There's plenty of evidence suggesting ELEs in the Earth's past. Why is it so incredible to believe it will happen again in the future or possibly the near future? Hasnt been an ELE in, what? A few million years or more? Sounds to me like the time may be ripe...

I can't believe so many people actually thought it was going to happen.
Why do most of you believe all this crap without any Evidence? Why do most of you believe the word of one looney person out there that says the world is going to end?

He had evidence. Albeit shaky and largely unfounded, based on biblical misinterperetations, but he didnt just pull it from thin air. And on a personal note, I wouldnt lump the religious in with "loonies". Oh, and I dont think most of "us" (assuming that means ATSers) believed it. In fact, no one I know at all believed it.

It's no wonder this planet is in trouble. You just have to look at the state of people. They're willing to believe in anything without an inkling of proof. Even when there is proof debunking something, most of you still won't believe the proof and go with some story that sounds fascinating.

True, but the only real "proof" we can have is in the here and now, or at least, in recent documented history. Personally, I'd rather believe in something extraordinary than to believe that life is as mundane as the daily grind, and will be until the end. Nothing could possibly be more depressing than that; that theres nothing in the end. That we live out our miserable lives working our fingers to the bone within our self-created three ring circus systems for our self-created monetary treasures which ultimately mean nothing at all. Call me a cynic I suppose.

Theres no proof that HAARP has anything to do with changing weather and causing earthquakes. But most of you believe that HAARP is doing evil things to the planet and there is not one little piece of evidence that HAARP is responsible. That doesn't matter though, does it? You all would rather believe some story that maybe one person made up and others latched onto it and started spreading it.

HAARP is a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and defense purposes.

The IRI will be used to temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere for scientific study.

HAARP Website

In the last decade or so, we have undergone a massive media onslaught telling us that the fumes from our tailpipes are changing the atmosphere which will have catastrophic effects on our way of life in the near future. Is it really a jump to believe that a machine specifically designed to change the upper atmosphere on purpose could bring about similar changes? Personally, its the "defense purposes" that raise the red flag. All people see right now is a rapidly changing world both ecologically and societally and those changes bring with it a fear factor which leads to radical ideas. But Im not so sure those radical ideas are always wrong.

I thought Intelligent people would believe in things that had proof associated with events and not just heresay from one or more people. Then again, when there is proof that doesn't agree with most of your beliefs, you choose to ignore it.

This is a loaded statement. It implies that your beliefs in specific come with hard proof and that anyone not accepting your specific beliefs is unintelligent. Id be interested to hear about some of your beliefs and the proofs that go with them. Id bet that some of the proof you claim to believe in is merely evidence grounded on theory, as all world views truly are. But evidence backed by theory is hardly proof. Im a Christian, and I wouldn't dare say that the Bible is proof of God's existence. I believe what I do because I have weighed many options and found what I believe in to be most credible. And I continually weigh more ideas in as they come my way.

I believe truth to be absolute, but rather elusive at that.

This website is for exploring for evidence of that which we do not see. Perhaps 99% of theories on here are wholeheartedly wrong. I'm interested in the 1% that could be right. This place is a marketplace of ideas. I always scratch my head at those who shoot others down calling them loonies or inferring unintelligence because they propose an idea which seems far-fetched to the masses. Yet these same enlightened few continue frequenting the site they clearly think is crazy. Dude, take a look at your signature. Nibiru? Wheres your proof sir? Please, dont be so quick to judge others.

All that said, OP, great thread, I tend to agree mostly. Im not necessarily sure any PTB "allowed" the ad campaign for any real reason other than freedom of speech and good old currency. Many economies are hurting right now and the cash flowing through advertising probably was welcomed. But who really knows? Maybe there is an alterior motive for allowing these antics to be carried out.

reply to post by gwydionblack


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SECRET RAPTURE--------DEMON POSSESSION------ZOMBIES

Signs point to rapture, soon, even before 2012.

Only the souls of Christians will be RAPTURED, caught up to heaven;
their bodies will be left behind on earth and totally controlled by sin
(sin-nature/demons) which every person has.

What you will see are ZOMBIES ( former Christians) and you won't
know the difference, nor will you know that RAPTURE has happened.
Maybe it already has.

We are all DEMON POSSESSED, some more than others. Romans 7:14-24, etc.

All Christian churches have been infiltrated by ( wealthy) satanists with
their drop-dead gorgeous females that are brought near to a pastor/priest
for sex.

The most common way to be DEMON POSSESSED is to have sex with
a person who already has demons; they spread from person to person
like STD.

How many pastors/priests had illicit sex in their lifetime, and their
churches become demon manipulated/controlled.

Only Holy SPIRIT (of Jesus and His Father) is keeping keeping Satan/
demons from gaining control over churches.

At RAPTURE, this SPIRIT will be taken out of their way, and thus Satan &
his demons will have total control over all churches, nations, & the w


Love, puppet.

p.s., Hope to see you in heaven, only if you accept Jesus.
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Great minds do indeed conspire alike, OP.

I started a thread about this exact thing yesterday, in Fragile Earth. I saw another post from someone else who says he was speaking of it to his wife just yesterday. Coincidence?

Yours is written much better than mine, and seems more 'factual' somehow...

Well done, Critical Thinker!

I to have a point though it's not well recieved.... that is that I'v listened to Shortwave radio for a couple decades now, and that just about all there is in the english language are relegious programs. Those who subscribe to Christianity do it several ways, two of which are attending church and others listen to TV programs or Radio programs. Many are not afforded the ability of driving or traveling to a church service for a host of reasons, infirmtiy, poverty, distance, no transortation and other reasons of health and whatnot. So the Christian broadcasts have become a popular way of sharing the Bible with this audience, and I for one enjoy these. Certain ones mind you, as there are a few of dubious distinction. Never the less, there are others who try their best to put the word out in the best of intentions avoiding any deceptions or as a money grubbing endevor. I truely believe hat Harold Camping is an individual who has tried to teach bible study and answer questions to the best of his knowledge and ability. What would people say if infact the 21st had come and gone and everything he said came to pass? People were missing, earthquakes had proliferated worldwide, all the scenario he described as prophecy. Not his prophecy, but the words of John or Revelation which must surely come true. Athiests can mock all they want, and scoff, and delight, but for the rest who are Christians, we know the second coming is going to happen, it is our belief, a tennent of our faith, and armies of athiests can not budge our faith, and if they do, there was no faith to begin with. I believe Harold Camping sounded what he and many in his ministry believed to be the truth. Why bother to help evil sinners, those who are against you? He could have said nothing and let them perish, but instead he followed Christs comandment of loving your brother. Therein was his reason, and to declare the Glory of God. It is sad that he has tried in earnest and both times been found in error and wrong, but you must sacrifice and take chances and do your best. I believe Brother Camping did this out of concern for mankind and with good intentions. But..... let this be a lesson, that no man know the time, there are far greater things to concern ourselves with, such as Salvation.

I JUST FEEL SORRY FORE THE PEOPLE THAT PUT MONEY INTO THIS

I didn't buy the whole May 21st thing for a second. I however wondered why the mainstream media picked it up and ran with it. Seems to me anything that can cause panic, they don't touch. If Japan isn't a good example, I don't know what is. I was thinking by 7pm on the 21st why this might be. PERHAPS they know something is on the horizon. Let a few of these nut jobs and their way out there ideas and let them fail. The whole crying wolf thing. When something real comes up like say a comet, people will see it in the sky and know just to blow it off. Does anyone get what I'm thinking?

Star and Flag from me man! This is clearly a means to implant a negative emotional connotation to any large abnormal events. This will give average citizens an even greater "slide response" when it comes to prophecies and doomsday theories. So when the # really DOES hit the fan, everyone will disregard it as more folly postulation..

reply to post by WhoTheCapFit


maybe that weed you got was laced with some pcp but on a serious note I don't believe in god I'm Athiest

iterior deception, mexi co , set up of invasion.

china to release details, ufo and other facts comming in , the pak details , soon watch time magazine and cnn.

mega cover up, cia and the conjunction of pacistan. Sooon maga details.

mega cop circles on the way, alien interpretation. watch. in ONE DAY.

A PRECURSER. to the EVENT tornadic act. in the next week.

At least this didn't turn into a Jim Jones event. A very nice statement by the OP.
What does bother me is to why the media hype for his prediction, especially when he has failed one in the 90's and i think the 70"s.
Seeing he is 89 yrs old, his time should be close anyway for his own rapture.

reply to post by gwydionblack


Hmmm, so you want me to use logic against your...Feeling? Feeling that somethings wrong? Or do you want me to use logic against you knowing that the world is changing. So, I have to use logic against your lack of anything but a feeling? Seriously? Come on! Really?

Okay, your whole point is that those pesky PTB used this event and perhaps Camping to discredit the armaggedon that is fast approaching in 2012. That in October there will be another event that will completely discredit everyone and we'll all be laughing as this life altering event occurs in 2012...right?

First, most of the MSM didn't mock those involved. Yes, they had a laugh when the prediction failed to materialize as most everyone in the world did. I saw a few reports when the billboards were first put up, again, they reported on the who, what, when and where but there was no mocking, they just reported on what was happening and explained who was behind it.

I still fail to see the consipiracy you claim. The MSM reports on the hot button topic of the day and then they move on to the next item. Saturday was the end of the world and on Sunday it was for 116 citizens of Joplin. In fact, I did not see, read or heard any of the MSMs mocking the 2012ers or Christians.

Now, how about you providing something more than a feeling to back up your claims. I did not stereotype EVERYONE, I simply made an argument that there are those out there that will try to find a conspiracy under everyone stone.

I guess I should have been more open minded and simply given you a star and a flag and agreed with you. Yeah, that's open minded....or is that ignorance.

I agree. While Armageddon, 2012, Planet X or any other End of the World theory may not be true the rate at which unprecedented events are taking place is astounding. It may not be the End of the World but it will be the end of the state of affairs of mankind as we know them. If you ask me that is a good thing.