Only the Beginning - The REAL Reason behind May 21st, 2011 and the Rapture Prophecy

the reason = money. thats just how it goes. praying upon the weak (minded) in this case.

reply to post by Common Scarecrow


This is my thinking as well. I wonder what people of Noahs day thought of him? I am sure he was a dooms dayer and the like. I am sure people ridiculed him and laughed! :-(

S & F

I kinda think that the whole May 21 2011 campaign was allowed to be heavily advertised so that religion can begin its start of collaspe.

No doubt that when nothing happened Saturday night, many of religious people scratched their heads....and probably want to rethink some things, even if its just a few things.

The point is, they are having to THINK

Plus, look at all the ancient discoveries that have been made in this year alone which give more credibility to the Ancient Alien Theory, the fact that our DNA was genetically manipulated, and how old the Earth really is.

Why is that important to TPTB? Religion is not embraced in a NWO.

I actually support a NWO www.abovetopsecret.com...

and

www.abovetopsecret.com...

In order to truly advance into a Type 1 civilization, a few things do have to occur. The main thing is the eradicate all this 'seperatness' we have, religion included.

Originally posted by WizardVanWizard
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not denying that event or it falling in line with what the Mayans forecasted. I'm just of the mind that it was astute astronomy tainted with religion-isms.

I don't think we're in the midst of any Tribulations, just the cyclical nature of the solar system and galaxy.

Of course I could be very wrong. I'm just some hick from the northern tip of Appalachia

Yet the cyclical nature of the universe does affect the Earth, mankind and all it's creatures. From Ice Ages, Climate Change, to increases in seismic and magmatic events on Earth are exarcerbated by cosmic events.

For example, there is research from back in 1978 in which scientists postulated that the Solar System was approaching an interstellar cloud in the near future and that it would affect the climate for the next 10,000 years.

We also know that the Sun's activity, as well as events outside the Solar System can and do affect not only earth's climate but also exarcebate seismic and magmatic activity. So if the Maya/Hopi were such good astronomers they could indeed foresee events that would affect Earth and mankind.

reply to post by gwydionblack


So very true!!!!

People can't continue to ignore that 'all is simply not well' with Planet Earth.

When I watched the Joplin MO tornado story break, Don Lemon (CNN) even had to pause and ask Chad Meyers, "Just what the heck is going on, really?"

I would be curious to know how many people who flagged and starred this post were all on-board with the whole May 21st bunk and are now changing their stance. I like the way people ebb and flow to "fit in"...complete hypocrites.

I concur 100% as well. The world has changed and continues to change. Time moves faster somehow, I just can't put a finger on it. Maybe I am getting old. I assume many think our technology will save us somehow. It may save some but not all of us, I haven't gotten my golden ticket for the bunkers yet.

If and when the time comes nature will pick those she sees fit for survival. As for the good book and it's prophecies, well it is just that a book, like the Tora, the Koran, the I Ching, and hundreds and thousands of books that tell us how to live a good life in harmony with the world. The one lesson mankind may never get.

Well if and when it comes, I will do my best to keep me and mine safe and alive, if it is our time, then so be it, I live each days to the best of my ability as if it were my last.

Be well all. Great post.

Do you relise that if 2012 really is a doomsday prophecy ( which is not) Even people who would go underground would not survive. Nibaru would destroy everything hence the End of times thing.and if you think that the Illuminati/Freemasons would depopulate 90 percent of the world. Well it is not their style. They think that they are doing a good by manipulating society and just us talking about end times. And doing what they want which is fear mongering. It is not convenient for them to not have any slaves or someone to use and manipulate. They want to help us but help for them means manipulation and destruction. And if we are talking about 2012 well lets just say that i dont think the Aliens would appreciate the Elite destroying their creation. And if we all die then oh well we could have stopped it but where to stupid too.

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People seem to see science as a tell all of fact. Let's face it. There are PLENTY of things that science has yet to open to us. What does science prove about the past? What can science say for sure about pole shifts? What do scientists care about the collective consciousness theory?

You seem to be confused. If what you seek is someone or something static giving you all the "right" answers, then you are looking for religion. Science is ever evolving, so if science says something today that is proven wrong tomorrow, you will know both the wrong and the right. A view, metaphorically, evolves.

This is not possible in religion, as in religion half-truths are always present. Like: "science can't prove everything". Well, ever wondered what can prove everything? At least science is trying...but where I'm going with this is that your view is an apocalyptic one; maybe you should go talk to a church - I bet they will agree with you.

When science can not answer the most heated questions, where is the next logical place to look? The past. History tells us that things have happened to this earth, things that we can't full come to understand for lack of information on such.

Yes, and the science of the past is better known as history. I think you have a skewed view of science. Science is not an organization like the church.

Fast forward a bit and...

Maybe the world isn't ending. Maybe it is paranoia. However, the changes ARE real. They are before us. The sound VERY familiar to historical accounts of ancient civilizations. For people who believe in the Bible, even simply as a vague historical account - it matches with the final chapter of that as well.

There we have it. Your view is not rational, it is based on a belief. And beliefs can be dangerous if not approached correctly, just take a look at the billionth prediction that went wrong up to the point of heart attacks last Saturday.

Originally posted by mantarey
I concur 100% as well. The world has changed and continues to change. Time moves faster somehow, I just can't put a finger on it. Maybe I am getting old. I assume many think our technology will save us somehow. It may save some but not all of us, I haven't gotten my golden ticket for the bunkers yet.

If and when the time comes nature will pick those she sees fit for survival. As for the good book and it's prophecies, well it is just that a book, like the Tora, the Koran, the I Ching, and hundreds and thousands of books that tell us how to live a good life in harmony with the world. The one lesson mankind may never get.

Well if and when it comes, I will do my best to keep me and mine safe and alive, if it is our time, then so be it, I live each days to the best of my ability as if it were my last.

Be well all. Great post.

I agree...I love learning about physics and anything to do with the cosmos

I think time is literally moving faster because we are traveling faster through the universe itself....

Space=Time

One important question that all of us should ask is who gave them the money for all the banners placed all over THE PLANET?

The banners were placed even in third world countries and the main message was something like 'those who think of Apocalypse and believe it will happen, will be redeemed'.

The elites know we are CREATORS and we created our reality, we are the ones that need to remember this.

Also, please read this: humansarefree.com...

~ LOVE TO ALL ~

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Agreed 100%. I just mean I don't believe it's tribulation with a capital 't' haha. It's just stuff that happens in the grand scheme of the universe, rather than some god(s) punishing us in preparation for some final judgement.

Again, though, who really knows, I guess.

The May 21st concept caught media attention because it had so many people and so much money behind it....no government conspiracy or deception here. Just good old fashioned marketing and it worked! Private contributions from all the poor idiots who believed in this crazy man's prophecy fueled the media. Now the problem is probably that his company is now in possession of gobs of donations because of it all and isn't sure what to do at this point.

As for October....my money is on nothing happening...same with 2012. Something will happen at some point in the future...that is certain. But our lives are but a tiny, tiny fraction of a second in the time of this planet. So its a bit ridiculous to think that we are privileged to present for its demise.

reply to post by gwydionblack


I don't think that this is some conspiracy. When someone shouts "end of the world", they're probably bound to attract some attention. And with being so close to 2012, these types of predictions are getting more "newsworthy", just like Y2K predicitons over 10 years ago.

I don't think this is the end of religion either. Heck, if that were true, then wars will become a thing of the past as most have their origins to an extent in religious doctrine. Most Christians will tell you that to put a date/time on the end of the world is against the teachings of Christ. Why so many, so-called "believers" of this man (and note, man, not God) were willing to blindly accept his prediction should be the most newsworthy aspect from this whole non-event.

Why are people so willing to accept the end of the world and sell everything, but won't vote, won't stand up in their communities and won't help make a difference.

This guy has tried this before. It was back in the late nineties if I recall. For any who know or want to know I suggest the Bible. Even those who don't believe or believe in other things I'll suggest it. Basically the verse says quite clear that not only will man not know the hour or day but neither will Jesus or the angels. That's a pretty clear and powerful statement. The system he used has been around for a very long time basically taking apocalyptical events in the bible and counting in between them and the next big event. Ofcourse it won't work but I will say this, one day it will happen we do believe this, but don't listen to the ones who say they know exactly because they will be wrong every time. For those who have an interest in prophecy you can see some have come to pass and some have not. The ones he based his count on haven't all happened YET. I won't rant or rave or even scream for everyone to come around to my beliefs. That doesn't work I will say that I do believe the rapture will happen one day. I also do wish more people believed but im no preacher or teacher lol. But please don't ever take another mortal man's word for it. You'll be hurt or disappointed every time.

reply to post by gwydionblack
The non human world is always going to change: has been in the past ,present and definitely after you die. You and every person that's assuming the end is coming in the near or far distant future, has to first understand : HUMANS ARE NOT SPECIAL NOR IMPORTANT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM IN THE UNIVERSES CYCLE OF LIFE.
We are here for the ride ,nothing more.


Predicting on the human world ,especially now do to our magnifying technology on information , is incredibly misleading. We never had the same amount of detailed information in the past as we have now.. We are constantly over-analyzing politics,science and religion.. We all need to relax and stop thinking about the end. Try enjoying now for once in your life.


Anyone , any calendar or any code that predicts the end of the world or life as we know it is completely false. There is no proof of this lunacy... Why ?, Because its made by MAN. Humans cannot predict factual detailed events of the future. As if they truly know for a fact. Humans can't do that. We can assume it mite happen and hope to be right or suggest its possible or plausible. But FACT ,no F**king way.


-So is world changing: YES
-Is the Government being deceitful: YES
-Is the earth's mantel shifting and producing more and more earthquakes:YES -Is the stock market fluctuating inconsistently :YES -Is the world eventually coming to an end: YES


Does this mean I can predict the future now: NO!!!!!!




The only real issue is population growth. This aspect is the only part that can escalate human decline. Only then is a prediction valid.

Originally posted by Zarxx
Interestingly enough I found this a few days ago... Not sure if this was posted on ATS or not. Oh and btw, hello everyone! Long-time reader, first time poster.

www.youtube.com...

Here is the official website for the return of christ:

ra-el.org...

If it hasn't been posted.. then, enjoy! =P

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From Ra-El.org...

With the immense amount of letters addressed to Him, it would be impossible to personally answer them all, but rest assured, He does receive every message.

Pardon me, but... BWAHAHAHAHA!

You think Jesus is a Mac or PC?

yes, that must be it! since here on ATS, theres a conspiracy connected to everything!!

This is why I love this website. No matter what happens, it's a conspiracy. If those pesky PTB had mocked the May 21st prophecy prior to the date, then they're are trying to spread disinfo. If those Darn PTB ignore it and allow people to be mislead by a man who already failed in a previous prediction then they're trying to discredit the 2012ers. If TPTB had done absolutely nothing, then it was definitely a CIA Psyop to see how we would deal with 2012 or disclosure or some other world changing event.

lose/lose for TPTB. Surprising they can do anything with the paranoia that runs rampant around the world.

Maybe, just maybe, this Camping guy is just another in a long line of End Times Prophets who TPTB can't stop since he's not breaking any laws. Since they couldn't stop him they just allowed people to hand out pamphlets or drive RVs around the country. With all the attention that his followers have been seeking, it's no wonder that the evil MSM reported on it. Everyone was talking about it and some had planned after Rapture parties or cracked a cold one at 5:59pm...just in case. I played a round of golf and grilled T-Bones by 5:30pm...just in case.

For the record it was a horrible round, kept lifting my head. Probably looking for chemtrails, UFOs or the Messiah.

It does amaze me how willing people are to throw away their life savings for a man spreading fear. Especially a man that got it wrong before. It reminds me a lot of those who feed off the fears of the Mayan Calendar.

I was watching sports center yesterday and saw an ad for a preview for "Call of Duty: Modern warfare 3" that was supposed to air during the NBA western conference finals game tonight. Theres one version with France and one with America seen here:

www.youtube.com...

It's a teaser for the full preview tonight, and i think that it could be somewhat symbolic for something that may happen in the future. The fact that the preview will be aired on may 23rd (5/23) kind of makes me wonder if this isn't symbolically a preview for a possible World War III planned by the new world order. 23 seems to have a lot of symbolism in it, 2+3=5 which correlates to a lot of things throughout history/religious doctrine. Modern Warfare 3 has the initials MW3 which look similar to WW3, plus my bet is with Osama "dead" the next phase of the NWO's agenda will probably commence soon (if you believe in the NWO as I do).