Top Chinese General: "China does not have the capibilitay to challange the US."

Originally posted by JerryB08


Anyone familiar with current international military's strength's already knew this. I found it interesting that China's top Military General would admit this. I wonder If he is pushing for more money for much larger Chinese military build up.

At least the Chinese citizens seem to be thinking in realistic terms. Russia is also in a similar situation when it comes to their military strength.
With all our current military capibilities we are still threatened by terrorists in thrid word country's.

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Ackhem...I've been to Russia and China both and witnessed their military prowess, and I have to tell you that you cannot compare the two. Russia has a rather large military, completely active, and ready to go to war with anyone deemed necessary to do so with.

While China has global ability; aircraft carriers that rival ours, a technical deployment system that is just as advanced as ours is (fiber optic communications, remote satellite uplinks, etc.) and a steady influx of soldiers into their already MASSIVE combat ready head count they have obtained over the years.

Not to mention, their 'culture' includes sticking to the saying 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer.' With 2,000,000 troops situated in Venezuela and nuclear strike abilities, China is a threat. Period.

I see this as disinformation coming out of China to see if we'll drop our guard. A final poke in the side before they make our media look like idiots for saying otherwise. "They're alright." then BAM.

Not to mention, why else would the Top General of China's military say China has the second greatest economy? Compared to who? America? LOL. Nope. Disinfo all around, chaps. China's economy is the healthiest economy on the planet, almost entirely due to their isolationist style of management, keeping them above the U.N. and the U.S. influences.

When we say 'jump', China replies 'Thanks but no thanks. We like it our way.'

I can but only laugh at some of the comments I have read so far. America beats Afghanistan and Iraq now there the greatest army history has ever seen!

Nobody will dare challenge us, get a grip some of you on this thread please. Pick a fight with China, you'll see all this macho talk evaporate rapidly. China in my mind fired a missile of the West of LA only a few months ago, this country is well prepared for war.. Three thousand people in 9/11 imagine a full scale war with China, it will not be a pretty sight or a quick war millions will die on both sides, including some of you talking all big now.

Originally posted by StopFool
I can but only laugh at some of the comments I have read so far. America beats Afghanistan and Iraq now there the greatest army history has ever seen!

Nobody will dare challenge us, get a grip some of you on this thread please. Pick a fight with China, you'll see all this macho talk evaporate rapidly. China in my mind fired a missile of the West of LA only a few months ago, this country is well prepared for war.. Three thousand people in 9/11 imagine a full scale war with China, it will not be a pretty sight or a quick war millions will die on both sides, including some of you talking all big now.

You're an idiot.
A chinese military guy said he don't think the chinese can compete with us,and you go against what he says, despite the fact he should know the limitations of the army?

You're an idiot man.
The USA would take a dump over china ten times out of ten.

In all out war? china would get owned, but sissies like you would cry about war crimes.

"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near." -Sun Tzu

For all you people quoting Sun Tzu, ever stop to think that the US is just a bluff?
Meaning, we are to high on a high horse.

Originally posted by randomname
sun tzu, the art of war: ..."if you are strong, feign weakness"

edit on 19-5-2011 by randomname because: (no reason given)

My thoughts exactly.

Originally posted by loOranks

Originally posted by randomname
sun tzu, the art of war: ..."if you are strong, feign weakness"

edit on 19-5-2011 by randomname because: (no reason given)

My thoughts exactly.

Omg.

Appearing strong or weak doesn't matter when you're outmatched every way possible.

reply to post by JerryB08
Why would China want a war with the USA when they have so much of our paper money? And invading us would find them faced with the same problem the Federalist-Globalist that have seized our country faced with; a civilian population that is armed to the teeth. Let's face it, under the surface we are a nation of mongrel killers whose core instincts have been far from bred out of us..especially the Whites and Blacks. What do you think Sports are really all about? "War Games". This thread is hardly worth commenting on, particularly when if it is not one thing, in will be another, as humanity is obviously wanting to start killing each other again.

reply to post by DuceizBack


The art of war doesn't cover war fighting only, it covers every aspect of challenges in a nation, from resources, economy and more.

“If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength and resources. Therefore, feed off your enemies and forage for their resources.”

~ Sun Tzu

The way China is fighting US supremacy is in the economy front.

Very soon even the loans you take will be Chinese base.

Chinese bank agreed to buy a stake in the US arm of Bank of East Asia.

Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (I.C.B.C.), the largest of China’s “big 4” state owned commercial banks agreed to pay $140 million for an 80% stake in the United States subsidiary of the Bank of East Asia, which is based in Hong Kong and has 13 branches in New York and California. The rationale was:


“Chinese banks are aggressively seeking to expand overseas, hoping that they can support Chinese companies abroad instead of losing them to American and European financial companies.”

This was I.C.B.C.’s second investment in North America, after buying a 70% stake in the Canadian operations of the Bank of East Asia Last year. It’s most notable investment however, is the 20% stake in Standard Bank South Africa that provides it with access to mining, energy and other resource firms in Africa.

They are starting with oversea banks.

stonestreetadvisors.com...

They know that the key to world domination is belonging to the big global banks and bank carte. In another few years they may well be part of it by majority.

According to a recent PwC analysis: “China’s appetite for overseas assets is insatiable, with natural resources remaining a key industry target, as the country aims to secure the resources it needs to fuel its engine of economic growth,” Mr Brown said. As predicted by PwC earlier in the year, apart from continued strong interest in natural resources, there has been an increasing number of acquisitions of high technology companies, as Chinese buyers look to bring know-how back to China to foster a developing economy. There is also strong interest in machinery and equipment manufacturers, and the automotive sector.”

Americas greed will be its downfall.

The truth, no matter how twisted, is still the truth.
(A quote from me)

Or

What he said was true, from a certain point of view...
(A paraphrase of Obi Wan Kenobi...don't sue me Lucas!)

I think what the good General was trying to convey was the truth that pound for pound the Chinese Military cannot beat the US Military. Technologically we are superior. Training wise we are superior. We have the highest level of "educated" personnel in the world. Many of even our *lower* enlisted men and women have college degrees, many of them at the graduate level.

Not that the Chinese are stupid. I don't mean THAT at all! The US military is a VERY technically proficient force and any other country would be hard pressed to defeat us in a straight fight. But who fights fair? Losers, that's who.

So, what the General said was technically correct. But..... (there it is...lol) as many on this thread have said, they beat us in shear numbers. When you can field one billion armed soldiers against one million armed soldiers you stand a good chance of winning. Unless it's one billion armed with sticks against one million armed with star trek phasers and star wars light sabers....lol A war of attrition is a worthless waste of life... but, a pyrrhic victory is still a victory.

--Apex

Originally posted by loOranks

Originally posted by randomname
sun tzu, the art of war: ..."if you are strong, feign weakness"

edit on 19-5-2011 by randomname because: (no reason given)

My thoughts exactly.

Agreed, i could just imagine the Chinese general having a grin on his face after he said that...

Originally posted by DuceizBack

Originally posted by StopFool
I can but only laugh at some of the comments I have read so far. America beats Afghanistan and Iraq now there the greatest army history has ever seen!

Nobody will dare challenge us, get a grip some of you on this thread please. Pick a fight with China, you'll see all this macho talk evaporate rapidly. China in my mind fired a missile of the West of LA only a few months ago, this country is well prepared for war.. Three thousand people in 9/11 imagine a full scale war with China, it will not be a pretty sight or a quick war millions will die on both sides, including some of you talking all big now.

You're an idiot.
A chinese military guy said he don't think the chinese can compete with us,and you go against what he says, despite the fact he should know the limitations of the army?

You're an idiot man.
The USA would take a dump over china ten times out of ten.

In all out war? china would get owned, but sissies like you would cry about war crimes.

Any news that is posted by Fox News on there site nowadays should be checked up on and be verified to make sure it's good journalism!

You'd also need to stop watching Hollywood action films mate, your impression of the US militarily does not match up with up to date historical knowledge. Do some reading please the US militarily has engaged itself in four major wars since the year 1945..

Do the maths... 2 draws know victory for the United States both in Korea and Vietnam even though the United States, had the strongest military in the known world too at this time, and were being opposed only by ill-equipped soldiers from North Korea and China!

Now, if you think America beating Afghanistan (had no professional army and Iraq who's professional army deserted and fled and never fought, is a fine example of American military power, you need to get out more and get some fresh air!

Calling someone an idiot when you don't know me and just to make your point, only proves your the idiot not me mate.

Originally posted by stonebutterfly
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very wel lsaid, but i find it hard to believe theyd want to go war with us. we support a massive amount of thier economy aka Walmart goods.

If im right it is the other way around. They own a large amount of US bonds. They have been dumping them like garbage for over a year because the collapse of dollar.

reply to post by OG_SWAGGA_KING


No only that but they are buying rights to nations resources like crazy specially in south America due to the fact that US has stop aid to many nations in need because the cost of two wars in the middle east.

US thinks that thinks that seizing nations with oil or make them unstable as Libya and Iran will stop China from owning drilling rights.

Originally posted by JerryB08

Top Chinese General: "China does not have the capibilitay to challange the US."

politics.blogs.foxnews.com

China's top military officer said Wednesday that his country lacked the equipment and directives necessary to challenge the U.S. militarily.

"Through my visit over the past couple of days in the United States, I am surprised by the sophistication of the U.S. military, including its weapons and equipment and doctrines and so on," People's Liberation Army leader General Chen Bingde said. "I can tell you that China does not have the capability to challenge the United States. As a matter of fact, the reconnaissance activities along China's coast by U.S. military aircraft and vessels are s

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China, SSSHHHHHHHH!!!

Don't let on and they'll never try to take you over.........

Originally posted by JerryB08

Top Chinese General: "China does not have the capibilitay to challange the US."

politics.blogs.foxnews.com

China's top military officer said Wednesday that his country lacked the equipment and directives necessary to challenge the U.S. militarily.

"Through my visit over the past couple of days in the United States, I am surprised by the sophistication of the U.S. military, including its weapons and equipment and doctrines and so on," People's Liberation Army leader General Chen Bingde said. "I can tell you that China does not have the capability to challenge the United States. As a matter of fact, the reconnaissance activities along China's coast by U.S. military aircraft and vessels are s

(visit the link for the full news article)

I have a feeling that he's either not going to be to well like by his superiors upon his return to China, or is going to "disappear" and be "replaced" by someone else who is more "loyal" to China. Poor sap.

reply to post by Bdizzl3


Thats exactly what I thought haha "oh american so big, china penis so smallllllll" lol even if we went to war with them all we'd hav to do is send in the dammmmmm mongolians to break down their shiiii wall

How many aircraft carriers does China have?

Military positions/numbers apart, for me the most relevant issue is the US own policy towards citizens.
Considering everyone that disagrees with the Gov. a potential "terrorist" is just insane. There will be another civil war inside the US before an engagement with China. The US will challenge themselves.

reply to post by MikeBoss


I am sure there is some truth to that. I personally do not believe that any country in this world in this ERA would be the first one to launch a nuclear weapon other than Iran. If for no other reason of the mass murder and horrible consequence to the entire world. Russia possibly. But only tactical nukes. They clearly still have plans for them if they were in a situation where they deemed it appropriate. they refused to include them in the new treaty.Which we never should have signed because of that. I mean they are still nuclear warheads. North Korea wouldn't they're not suicidal. However they would sell them to the highest bidder that's for sure. They just BS a lot for bargaining power.And it works every time. My point is even if China has 500 nukes in this day and age they're pretty much useless.

Many people are not aware that China is in worse shape than almost any national power. They have factory's running on generator's. They are in a terrible drought and they are struggling to keep the power on. They will have Power black out's all summer even with the large amount of rain that's predicted for them this summer. They rely majorly on Hydroelectric power. They really need a lot of fuel which will raise prices for it in the US. They also have major inflation issues in China. I read in Shanghai a dirty one bedroom apartment cost as much as penthouse in NYC. I don't see The US and China fighting. However their situation could creat a war between them and Russia for the oil and other resources in Asia that Russia has.

I thought India and China were Pals, they have been jointly building fighter jets. But recently it seems they are really blowing Pakistan because they just gave them 50 fighter jets yesterday. And they are telling the US to respect Pakistan. Interesting times we live in.

I thought I would ad I read Iran has built missile silo's in Venezuela and if that's true they need to bomb the crap out of those Silos.

reply to post by princeofpeace


Operational Zero. They did buy a 1990's Era one from Russia. And it will be operational soon. Their new stealth aircraft their parading around was built by the Russians. It's a MiG. I'm sure its a good jet though. probably an upgraded 4th generation fighter. The carrier will operate SU-34's. Which is a fantastic fighter. I think their building up there military to take resources personally. From Russia. But what do I know? I'm guessing and I'm just going off of the things I have read. That stuff could have been inaccurate or I maybe I'm just stupid and not know it. I'm sure I will know when all my fellow ATS ers respond, lol