A man will be punished by dripping acid into his eyes in Tehran on Saturday May 14- Norway condemns

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that's even better
waiting is the hardest part.

Originally posted by eletheia
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from committing like offences and to protect society


The best way to avoid punishment is to fear it.......Anon

The generality of men are naturally apt to be swayed by fear rather than reverence, and

to refrain from evil rather because of the punishment that it brings..........Aristotle

Using barbaric words from barbaric time's will not sway my thoughts on this matter.
FEAR ,solves nothing.
FEAR, It resolves nothing.
Fear is meant to drive humanity into oppression.
Fear has got this world into the mess that its in, and more fear will do nothing to solve this.
Only being better than the past can we make the future better.

To administer a punishment in the same vein as the crime originally inflicted lowers us to that person's standing. Thoughtful humans should know this I guess. I imagine we should all have this idea of being bigger than an eye for an eye. I want to believe I'm better than an eye for an eye type treatment of another human. However, I was attacked by a man once who claimed he adored me. I've tried to go through all the reasons why I was better than him and I shouldn't want him to suffer the same pain he inflicted upon me. Really, I have. At the end of the day though I'm just mad. I was mad that this human being felt they had a right to harm me -to force their will on me and hurt me in such a way. And then -as the bigger, better and more humane person- I was supposed to let it go and take some philosophical approach to it. This just didn't happen. I wanted him to feel the fear he put into me. I wanted him to know how he disrupted my life. I wanted him to completely grasp how his impulsive and selfish actions would leave a taint upon my life long after he was out of my life. When a circle of my male friends beat the living hell out of him, I didn't feel bad about it. I didn't feel like a bad human. Perhaps that makes me less of a thoughtful human than everyone in this thread speaking about how bad it is to wound this man in such a way. You may even be right. But when I look at knife marks in my skin and have flashbacks on how it felt to have another human being force his sexual will on me... you know what? I still think about him suffering for it. I don't take the moral high road. If you think I'm a bad human for that -- well... walk a day in my shoes and come back and have a chat with me. If you still feel that way then I will respect your opinion. Till then, I'll stick to my desire to hate humans that hurt other humans for their own pathetic needs. I can't bring myself to read the story of this guy. If he did this awful thing to some woman because of his own lust or upset over being refused, let the #er rot with his broken eyes. You can all think I'm an asshole for that opinion, I'm ok with that. I spend a few seconds a week dealing with this crap on a physical level and I'm grateful it's only a few seconds now. As ugly as it is... sometimes the punishment fits the crime. If you're able to see beyond that I really do appreciate you because you've been able to rise above simple anguish, or you simply haven't experienced first hand. Either way, I'm happy for you. Sincerely. I'd like to be in that place.

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Fear is an emotion that helps you protect yourself and helps to remind you that you

don't have control over everything in your life (and never will)

Fear tempers impulse which protects you from danger

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When i read the first two lines of your post i thought oh here goes another one preaching

from a 'safe place.' Then i realised that you were actually a human with a whole range of

emotions and you had every right to be mad.' Walk a mile in my shoes comes to mind'

My experience (nowhere as bad as yours) fifteen years ago i was burgled while asleep

at home, the phone line was cut so if i had awakened i couldn't have called for help. It

wasn't the money or things taken (although some had sentimental value) that have hurt

me but it is now fifteen years later and there are times i still wake up at night in a cold

sweat of fear.

Violent offenders should receive violent punishments

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Mr. Future Utopia Nonsense Speaker? Really?

well, obviously utopia is impossible; there are children like you running around out there.

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Fear puts you in a defensive state rather than a state of growth. That is why the powers want us afraid all the time. That is why they are always dooming and glooming us.

while i agree that some instances may be a bit brutal.there is a simplicity to its action. in the us we have become so wrapped up in the rights of those that commit crimes that we forget the rights are to be taken away as punishment .what of the rights of the victim or their families who have suffered because of one person wrong actions.i do agree with the punishment,and feel the us would do right by acting in the same manner people would learn respect for one another albiet the hard way but much needed never the less.in this day and age there are people being treated better in prison then out on the street they have no fear for punishment.and that is our greatest mistake.

ok, for starters, his initial reaction to her refusal was totally extreme, way over the top and plain old wrong.
BUT
As someone said earlier, what is it going to accomplish, by her dripping acid into his eyes too?> does she get her sight back? no. An eye for an eye is not the way to go.. What Gahndi (sp?) said seems all too relevant in situations like this: "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
Theres always a better way to achieve justice.

I dont think there is anyone on this thread that has had acid thrown in their face so

every single one and the perpetrator can only IMAGINE the burning sensation and the

resulting disfigurement and suddenly being unable to see their loved ones or the wonders

of nature ever again, if she ever becomes a mother she will NEVER be able to SEE her

child. If the sentence is carried out he will KNOW what it feels like, He will no longer

have to IMAGINE he will KNOW.

I'm kind of intrigued by the notion of this victim (horrifically blinded in her own right by this cretin) performing the punishment on him ...10 drops of acid in each eye. I'm trying to play the scenario out in my head. How is she going to even see where she's applying the "eye drops"? This guy could wind up with more of a problem than just blindness at the end of the day!

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
What will dripping acid into the man's eyes do? Will it give the woman her eye back? I just do not see the point here.

What will it do? It will give the lady satisfaction and justice. SWEET REVENGE.

This is not the first time this mentally ill country has dripped acid in someones eye, it has happened a few times before.

The only reason they have postponed it this time is because the rest of the world has noticed and people are justifiably shocked by this barbaric nonsense.

I dont care what anyone says, yes the guy deserves it but what would happen to the world if we were this literal about every crime? They should have just shot the bastard in the head, this, blinding carry-on is completley over the top and disgusting.

I'm ashamed to live on a planet where this kind of thing goes on and people applaud it.

The way Iran and men in general in the middle east treat women is disgusting and an affront to humanity, this whole thing perfectly illustrates what a sick society Iran really is.

I cant wait till we find an excuse to bomb the crap out of that sewer.

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
i think it is a suitable punishment for him. thats a horrible thing to do to a person, and he did it to her only cuz she didn't want him. its only fair that he gets a taste of his own medicine.

sure its crude, but you can't say he doesn't deserve it.

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It's an Old Testament / Quaran, way of exacting retribution. However, as Ghandi once said:

An eye for an eye makes the world go blind.

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Just as he did because the acid not only blinded her but went all over her face and

disfigured her.

However i have to say like you i am somewhat uncomfortable at the scenario, though

he can't have been unaware of the consequences of his actions because it is the law

in that country. ( whether we like it or not)

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The Quaran is the Muslim holy book...................Ghandi was a Hindu

All the Islamic Law apologists can't star and flag this abomination fast enough, look at em go.
Makes you wonder how they would take it when their neighbor accuses them of stealing their lawn rake and their left hand is on the chopping block.

There is another Persian custom that predates the Islamic idiocy of acid, molten lead down the ear canal.
A timeless classic for sure.

I think they should just kill the guy! screw the acid, or give him some acid and then let him think he can fly off a 20 story building!

They guy purposely and willfully blinded an innocent woman.
He deserves to be shot!
Pacifying violent criminals is a waist of money!

All that think differently just add your address to rehab a violent criminal foundation so they can stay at your home and you can see how sweet they really are!

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Very brave of you to share your story EttaDiem. I use a similar story whenever I here some idiot droning on about leaving the world blind. My response is always, Just wait till something happens to you or a loved one. The only time I have ever really felt like someone truly went above and beyond was when a family, I think in Minnesota could be wrong, lobbied to have the death penalty taken off the table for their daughters murder. I was impressed, I couldnt have done that.