It's time for the young to take over !

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
The real question is:
how do we turn state budgets into the #1 spectator sport.

David Grouchy

edit on 14-5-2011 by davidgrouchy because: (no reason given)

And here it is, at the end, when I realize these brat kids may be right.

How do you turn state budgets into the #1 spectator sport?
You put buxom blonde women and strapping men in the senate and make em all wear next to nothing while discussing policy...

Originally posted by thislifetimeismine
Only with respect for the older generation with use of there wisdom form the mistakes that they made will help the youth of the next generation change the world.

All we need to do is have Faith!

Spot on. A saying that I like is "a wise man keeps his mouth shut, and his eyes and ears open."

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Your theory will not work, though I get your point on letting old people stay to long in power will mess things up just for the fact that it will stagnate things and any new or radical idea will not be left to flourish because they being old get so reliant on the same old same old, plus all the controlling they would be prone to do, and worse all the boring things they will do and say, which is not that bad as long as it's short and to the point.

But anyways it's not a age problem or at least a human age problem, because the same can be said of any age group young, old, middle age, I don't think it matters once it's all said and not done the results would be the same. It has nothing to do with old people because the age of the nature of the will to power and the ego, go way farther back into history then any one persons age or age of a group of persons, so an old person is not even a drop in the ocean compared to the nature of things. And the nature of things dictate, the nature of things, ie things you cant control, but control you.

And so.

Everyone heading Wall Street, Washington, the University system, all the power nodes of society -- energy, commerce, international trade, military, etc. -- would be headed by people in their 20s. Smart people selected rigorously and fairly, but young,

Nope wont do much, same old same old. It's silly to think that it would change anything at all. After all were all not that different when it comes down to it.

They would bring their creativity, their will to survive, their vibrant life force which starts to ebb when people get older. Fresh ideas, dynamic attitudes, and youthful idealism....what's not to like?

Sometimes and sometimes not, youthful idealism is just untested idealism at best, plain stupidity and ignorance at worst. But fresh ideas and creativity are always worth looking at, but all of the above that you wrote is not confined into any one age group.

Plus, the new generation, 20s and below, is much more spiritual than the olders, who are merely religious and cling to outward forms. The 20somethings are spiritual seekers who can bring fresh and innovative new life to tired old religion, bringing in a breath of fresh air in culture and the arts, too!

No there not, quit lying, they just think they are more spiritual. Though there ignorance is refreshing and will bring a breath of fresh air into culture and the art's. See who said youthful ignorance is not useful or good, in some situations it can be, because you have to be pretty ignorant of the old mantra to create a new mantra or else you would just get bogged down in the same ol same ol, mantra.

Who is with me! Youthquake! Who is with me??

Well since I have yet to reach the age of uselessness 30yr old as you put the limit. Might as well, so I'm with you. But whats our first priority?

Basically whats the plan here other then young people are better then old people?
Do we stop the evil old people and there rainbow suspender wearing ways?
Or do we go after the big spenders?
Is there a plan involved at all?


Why do I get the felling your ideas and this whole thing is not new, oh no! not new thing by a long shot! in fact you can say everybody and generation has this same brilliant idea in there youth and the mid-day of there lives. Every generation thinks it knows better then the last generation. But really they are all just standing on the crutches of every other generation that came before them, were every new generation didn't really understand the previous generation or the current generation, and vice versa. And so it will go on, and so the scenery will change.

Oh I can already tell how this will begin, its middle, and it's end, and so could an even older civilization, ever hear of "the riddle of the sphinx".

"Which creature in the morning goes on four legs, at mid-day on two, and in the evening upon three, and the more legs it has, the weaker it be?"

The answer as everybody knows is "man" or "mankind". Crawling when a baby at the morning of its life, spry on two legs when in it's prime or mid-day of life, and with its crutch when old. And the more crutches the weaker it be. But always dependent on one thing or another throughout it's live and in every generation.

you guys, # you, all your bloody presidents were men over the age of 40, who resolved the issues of their generation not the current one, want to know why, because they were old middle aged men. I don't suggest putting a ban on people over 30 to not be able to be presidents or anything but you should try to put a young person for president, someone youthful, energetic and who understands what the current generation needs and wants, but if their wisdom is so important, thats why they should be put as advisors and thinkers, alng with some young people. like maybe a panel of thinkers with the old and wise and the young, the old to bring their experiences and the young to blend them with their concepts. and young doesn't mean silly, we are not dumber than toast, I am 12 years old for petes sake and i hate it when people think i cant do something because im too small, or say that they can do certain things because they're older and i cant because im younger. it's so annoying that adults think we will be just like them and as messed up as them when we get older, who says we wont change for the better, and what allows them to do so.

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
The real question is:
how do we turn state budgets into the #1 spectator sport.

David Grouchy

edit on 14-5-2011 by davidgrouchy because: (no reason given)

And here it is, at the end, when I realize these brat kids may be right.

How do you turn state budgets into the #1 spectator sport?
You put buxom blonde women and strapping men in the senate and make em all wear next to nothing while discussing policy...

I was thinking the same thing. Didn't Italy elect a former pr0n star as prime minister.

The difference here, of course, is that instead of making changes because a wave of emotionally inflamed youth are looking to "punish" someone, we are trying to attract attention to how our representatives are actually spending our money.

The intent behind it counts for a lot.


David Grouchy

Originally posted by Realms
Yeah...let me know how that works out for ya?

It is proven that the children of today and tomorrow have no pride in themselves, and expect a handout at every curve. I used to work in the educational field, ( a university to be exact ) and you wont believe some of the most naive comments and thought processes that come from the college students of today....our country is doomed with that type of ignorance. Not to mention a wasted education.

This speaks for itself:

In case anyone missed it.
We have found what started this whole new round of old vs. the Young.
It's states budgets.
Bill Gates actually uses the phrase "old vs the young" at timestop 5:36.

I'm a little slow, I had to watch it twice to really get what he was laying out.


David Grouchy

Originally posted by Masinger

This speaks for itself:

Gerald Celente is excited in that video. But he's laying out the same thing that Mao Tse Tsung did to take over China. Revolution through youth. A formidable force once whipped up.


David Grouchy

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The internet allows for Mao types to be more easily exposed, not to mention most members of my age group have never heard of Gerald Celente.

Sorry Partygirl, seems that you "youngsters" picked our "Pretend President" barry s, and how's THAT working for ya?
While I don't like the old people in power now- THEY were the ones saying much the same as you, back in the 60's. (I can remember the late 60's- I was a young child).
I don't think that most people EVER mature enough, to think rationally. Certainly, not many under 30.
Perhaps if we returned to our ORIGINAL form of Government- a part-time Congress in a represenative constitutional democracy, with only property-owners and tax-payers getting to vote, we'd have a better outcome. It seemed to work well for the first hundred years.
Besides- I just don't trust a bunch of kids with a 30-second attention span, who can't name the three branches of the federal Government!

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I hate to break this to you, but what you are saying is exactly what those very same people you are condemming said 30-40 years ago to their elders. Its an endless cycle. Every generation thinks the older generation screwed up and they will change things. Then they grow up, screw things up, and the next generation blames them. Wait about 25 years and you will know what I am saying is true.

The problem isn't youth the problem is society in general
Young or old there are allot of weak minded naive people living here in the US
Mix that with what today's media is feeding them on a daily basis what do you get

Indigo of '86 reporting in for duty.


I'm ready to deny some old ignorance.

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I will say this, this planet is still producing some of the most beautiful women! Not sure what it means since their are so many males that remind me of gene pools for Morlocks and many of these women appear to be breeding with them.

I will add that those who think restoring our country (USA) our Constitution, Bill of Rights, to say nothing of our Industries and making Made In America mean something once again will not come about with words but with a lot of Sweat, Bullets and Blood.

Originally posted by v0ice0freas0n
reply to post by JR MacBeth

 

Honestly, the slavery references and blackface-esque talk is a little bit offensive. I guarantee that you live a life far more fulfilling than that of a slave. Perhaps slavery could even be used as something with which, by contrast, we can appreciate how good our modern lives are.

Spoken like a true slave, bravo!

Of course you are grateful! Let me guess, you're a house-slave? Massa gonna pat you on the head for that!

Here's a little suggestion. While you are obviously very easily offended, it might still be a good idea to read posts before responding to them. Then you might actually have something positive to offer, instead of just allowing your knee to jerk. Otherwise, you're probably going to continue to just pick out all kinds of words that you find "offensive", but you're still going to miss the point.

And that's not just dumb, and rude, but it's no way to go through life.

JR

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I use to be a teacher myself. I know exactly what your talking about. The youth of today are FUBAR. I dont think there is any hope for our future. I dont just say that openly, through 5 years of teaching and many experiences with the youth today, I can say with out a shadow of a doubt, that they have no idea what is going on. No work ethic, no drive, no passion, no desire. It scares me to death.

Originally posted by franci98
you guys, # you, all your bloody presidents were men over the age of 40, who resolved the issues of their generation not the current one, want to know why, because they were old middle aged men. I don't suggest putting a ban on people over 30 to not be able to be presidents or anything but you should try to put a young person for president, someone youthful, energetic and who understands what the current generation needs and wants, but if their wisdom is so important, thats why they should be put as advisors and thinkers, alng with some young people. like maybe a panel of thinkers with the old and wise and the young, the old to bring their experiences and the young to blend them with their concepts. and young doesn't mean silly, we are not dumber than toast, I am 12 years old for petes sake and i hate it when people think i cant do something because im too small, or say that they can do certain things because they're older and i cant because im younger. it's so annoying that adults think we will be just like them and as messed up as them when we get older, who says we wont change for the better, and what allows them to do so.

You know, I think it is great that you want to be able to contribute to society at such a young age. I was like you at 12. And I am one of the ancients now. I could read anything by the time I was 4 years old. In 1st grade, I was given a 5th grade reading book. Bad! No pictures, at all! I liked pictures!! I loved comic books! I would read the comics books off the racks in the drug store when my Mom had a trip there.
MY favorite hero of that time was Superman and being a girl, my Mom just did not get it. I wasn't into dolls like other girls. Just give me books and I was happy.
I thought I was so smart, which I was for my age...and more IQ than my Aunts and Uncles, who were a few years older than me. But life experiences ?? Common sense? And how to deal with adult situations? No..I wasn't ready for that. My Mom was a good soul, and she knew how to deal with me and it was hard for her bringing up 2 little girls on her own. My Mom knew I had more book sense than she did but she would always tell me my day would come and go set the world on fire then.
Didn't happen!! Met a boy, and that killed every dream I ever had. 4 kids down the road was a Mom doing the same as my Mom, telling my children almost same thing, but with a twist, My kids did listen to me. Each is in a job that helps people. Older girl, working in a mental facility, the younger girl, is working to help older adults, who can no longer care for themselves alone. My middle daughter died, and if any of you have ever had a child to die , you know what that is like. A hole in you heart that never heals up. My youngest, my son is still going to school at a local community college and has high hopes of helping to develop AI technology in the. future. So Franci98, your turn will come and go set the world on fire then. Wishing you good luck and good life experiences.

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Thumbs up!

As a twist on this idea I'd love to have a contest with a few of the "elderly" that I know, including me, vs. a pack of average 18-20 year olds. Let both groups have 10 minutes to collect their gear, then throw them all out in a forest for a two weeks and see who makes it.

I know herds of "Our Future" who have NEVER used a tool, mowed their mama's lawn, dug a ditch, made a camp fire, killed their dinner, plucked anything edible from the wild, etc.. Let the games begin!! I'm ready.

From my perspective is the youth of today seem to think they are entitled to it all. They don't seem to work for anything to achieve what it is they want. All they know is they want it and want it handed to them.Many of today's youth simply spew out we want revolution with out understanding how to get there or the implications of what it might do.
It bothers me when I here people like the OP state these things. It is exactly the point of wanting it without have to work to get there. You guys want to take things over because you think you can run it better. Hell, don't we all! The truth is, if you want to change , do it the right way and work for it...don't demand anything...it comes of as ...well childish in the end.

Its not the old that have screwed up this world, nor even the young, as some would counter...

It is those, who think they are Above everyone else...the Globalists...who have trashed this world for profit...Its like an addictive game to them
If you wish to point a finger at Anyone.....it is those, person or corporation, that have more money than they know what to do with.

Greed....that is what has trashed this earth.
Is there really a need for a heaped cellphone graveyard, the likes of which could give Mount Everest a run for its money? Well, figuratively speaking
Greed Greed Greed...More More More.

Don't blame the people for buying this crap.....they have been sold a lie, that This is the way to live.
Endless consumption.