150,000,000 Americans Classified as Mentally ILL for Profit

reply to post by chiefsmom


That last statement carry more truth that you can ever imagine, my friend.

My M&M's are vitamins

Pretty much everyone else I know is on some sort of pharmaceutical except for my brother. He's probably the sanest person I know, and he's still bonkers, LOL!

Originally posted by daynight42
reply to post by jude11

 

The part that is sad about this is that people turn to medication first before changing their diet or exercising (shown to be as or more effective than pills in improving mood). The medication really is a treatment that allows the original cause to remain. Without other steps, people will not change from the inside, which is what is needed.

Absolutely.

We are in a 'Quick Fix' Society and this is what happens when we need to get fixed RIGHT NOW.

Diet and exercise should be the first thing a doctor looks at but it just isn't so. I believe some of this can be directly attributed to the kick backs doctors get for these drug sales.

I am not saying ALL doctors. There are a lot of good ones out there but it looks like they may be losing the race.

Originally posted by chiefsmom
I went through all this with my son not to long ago, and when a doctor prescribes something (for ADD) for your child after seeing him for 10 minutes, said doctor can drop dead.

Of course they want us all drugged up! We behave better that way.

I guess I'll relate my own experience here:

Too many years ago when the Zoloft craze was picking up steam, I was having problems of anxiety for personal reasons and went to my doctor. He was also a doctor for the Health Club that I managed as we had a lot of boxers, athletes and so on.

So he gave me a prescription for Zoloft to help 'even me out' he said.

Long story short, 6 days later I 'Woke up' as I was riding my bike down the highway at 100 mph, in the rain at 2am.

I pulled over and had no idea why I was doing it as I am a safe rider as a rule. I had no memory loss like 'How did I get here'? I knew exactly what I was doing but it was not something I would ever do. I could have been killed.

Needless to say, out went the Zoloft and I never looked back.

I can understand how some may need these types of drugs but not millions.

reply to post by jude11

I alluded to the NWO but left it at that as it brings on a whole new de-railing window.

I just wanted to add the background to the story so it can be viewed as a whole.

The drugging of children is not just an "isolated" problem but is a very nasty by-product of viewing us as human "cattle"

My Mom was a "research subject" in radiation poisoning without her consent during the 1970's ....OOPS we had the dosage to high... Burned the crap out of her and wiped her brain. She went from a strong woman with a photographic memory to someone scare of her own shadow...

I can not find my link but one article said TEACHERS were given supplies of these drugs to hand out to the kids WITH no doctor in sight! Articles here on ATS show how parents are FORCED to give the crap to kids by Social services and cops.

Ritalin:

Between 1990 and 2000 there were 186 deaths from methylphenidate reported to the FDA MedWatch program, a voluntary reporting scheme, the numbers of which represent no more than 10 to 20% of the actual incidence... www.ritalindeath.com...

What is WORSE is it take direct aim at our most gifted children:

...There is some evidence that as many as half of all kids with IQs above 130 get below average grades, and in one study 13% of high school drop outs were gifted. In another study, a full 25% of children diagnosed with ADHD tested so high in creativity tests they qualified for state scholarships. I recently spoke with a consultant for the gifted who said about half of the gifted boys referred to her had been told they were probably ADD. Complicating matters is the uneven types of intelligence many people have. People labeled ADD often have a "visual/spatial" type of intelligence that confuses many teachers and parents. They might have trouble reading or spelling but have outstanding abstract reasoning abilities and become bored very quickly in traditional schools....

Gifted children MUST have an education that fits their needs. If they don't, they should be expected to act out or space out, and it is NOT their fault! Placing them on medication so that they can tolerate a more boring school is absurd. There are much better options available, such as home schooling, alternative schools and grade skipping.

borntoexplore.org...

If YOU want your family to be dictators of the world isn't this a great way to wipeout future malcontents BEFORE they ever have a chance to be a problem.


DRUG EM YOUNG AND DRUG EM OFTEN brought to you straight from Auswitz

©Historical Studies in Education / Revue d’histoire de l’éducation 16, 1 (2004): 33-62

The Hand that Rocked the Cradle:

A Critical Analysis of Rockefeller Philanthropic

Funding, 1920-1960

Brian J. Low

Past research into the mental hygiene movement in Canada and the United States has tended to view it in isolation from co-temporary projects funded by Rockefeller philanthropy, such as mass communications research. The mental hygiene campaign aimed to modify adult-child relations by reducing the influence parents and teachers held over children’s personality development; the central aim of mass communications research was the development of conformity of opinion. One a project of social engineering, the other of social control, the two projects combined appear to have possessed considerable potential to work in concert to shift weight in the socializing matrix from families and schools to the media at the outset of the post-World War II baby boom....

One never has to delve very deeply into the literature on child- rearing in Canada or the United States from the 1920s through the 1950s to find the hand of Rockefeller philanthropy supporting individuals or organizations involved in the production or dissemination of child-rearing knowledge, especially the Laura Spelman Rockefeller Memorial Fund (LSRM). Mona Gleason, for example, frequently noted the funding role of the LSRM in her
Normalizing the Ideal: Psychology, Schooling, and the Family in Postwar Canada.

...In this article, I argue that Rockefeller philanthropy fundamentally controlled psychological discourse concerning child- rearing and pedagogical practices in post-World War II Canada and the United States. The philanthropy’s officers were, in essence, funding support for a particular psychological approach to matters concerning children so extensively and effectively that they in effect shaped the consensus for the “modern” child-rearing philosophy...

Philanthropic funding supported the proponents of “mental hygiene,” providing them with institutional bases to legitimate their ideals of child rearing, and forums to present these, while marginalizing alternate ideals and alternate research into parenting and pedagogical practices by lack of funding. As a result, literature of the post-World War II period gives the appearance of almost universal expert support for “modern” child-rearing methods when, in truth, it reflects almost universal authority over child-rearing expertise by Rockefeller philanthropy...
www.scribd.com...

reply to post by crimvelvet


Thank you for that.

Back in the 60's and 70's so many of us kids were put on Ritalin because we were too much to handle.

reply to post by jude11

Back in the 60's and 70's so many of us kids were put on Ritalin because we were too much to handle.

In my school in Westchester county home of the Rockefellers, I noticed that the problem kids in 6th grade got shoved into the gifted class and immediately straightened out as their minds were stretched. It was not just one kid but several. The change was so noticeable it stuck in my brain all these years.

It too was in the 60's and 70's and not one kid went on Ritalin that I know of. Of course these were Cabot-Lodge, the kid of the VP of Nestles... So no way were they going to dope those kids up! (We lived on "peasants perch" with the rest of the slaves, excuse me servants.)

reply to post by jude11


My daughter's boyfriend's family (confused yet!!??) is like this.

The mother and his brother, are both labeled as "bipolar", both are perfectly fit and able to work, but neither of them does. Both get $1500 a month for life, plus free drugs, free medical, and it's just painful to watch. And the list of drugs they are on is LONG and EXPENSIVE.

Oh, the brother is 29 years old, and has NEVER held a job. Not a single one.

I started working at 14, and been at it ever since. I just don't understand the logic.

reply to post by jude11


I don't have time right now to fully read your opening
post.I will make this brief comment though.
It appears that the american population is slowly dumbing
down.The newer generation,kids' are being treated for
disorders the older generations never heard about.

Now,children are being medicated even while in the womb.
It is an outrage turning people into junkies and lowering their
IQ's to well below room temperature.

Does this post fit this thread?

reply to post by mamabeth


It fit like a glove, my friend.



I have this nagging feeling that the whole agenda about big pharma and government is turning the population into zombies with drugs side effects. That ensure a compliant nation, easy to manipulate people and slaves to the status quo.

I always wondered whrre these bullccrap disorders that the docs conjured up stemmed from..now we know* lies, anipulating the public into beliveing thier mental...cant trust a doctor no more only in america!!! lies profits deciets

reply to post by marg6043

I have this nagging feeling that the whole agenda about big pharma and government is turning the population into zombies with drugs side effects. That ensure a compliant nation, easy to manipulate people and slaves to the status quo.

Very nice summation. (I get too wordy trying to defend my positions SIGHhhh)

Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by marg6043

 

I have this nagging feeling that the whole agenda about big pharma and government is turning the population into zombies with drugs side effects. That ensure a compliant nation, easy to manipulate people and slaves to the status quo.

Very nice summation. (I get too wordy trying to defend my positions SIGHhhh)

A video to back up your theory. And yes, it references the Rockafellers.

More on the topic above:

The Dumbing Down of America via Education, Medication, Annihilation

healthadministration.hothealthguide.com...

The rate of prescription drug use among children and teens continues to rise, with a new report from Medco Health Solutions Inc. saying that at least a quarter of all US children are now regularly taking pharmaceutical drugs. And according to the report, many of these drugs were originally intended for adults, and carry with them unknown side effects for long-term use in young people. A Very Special Thanks to GKing1000 for sending me this video: www.youtube.com And most especially to Neal Fox for your time, brilliance and thought to create it: www.wireduck.com The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reports that in addition to taking drugs for conditions like attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and asthma, children are now taking things like sleeping pills, diabetes drugs and even statin drugs, which are typically only prescribed for adults.

Very good thread, I might have missed it.

Back to the topics at hand. I also think that we are messing with natural selection, as well as genetics. I actually met a mother who was giving her kid meds for psychotic tendencies, and bi-polar. He was 6. This to me is a form of abuse that we are now allowing parents to over medicate, and personally force feed kids that at the least, are have temper tantrums.

I would like to say "back in the day" we were allowed to scold our children, but now you can be arrested or have your kids taken away. which in turn makes parents feel like having them drugged up all day is better or dare I say easier to raise a kid.

I fear what the future generation will be like.
SnF,
Peace, NRE.

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
Very good thread, I might have missed it.

Back to the topics at hand. I also think that we are messing with natural selection, as well as genetics. I actually met a mother who was giving her kid meds for psychotic tendencies, and bi-polar. He was 6. This to me is a form of abuse that we are now allowing parents to over medicate, and personally force feed kids that at the least, are have temper tantrums.

I would like to say "back in the day" we were allowed to scold our children, but now you can be arrested or have your kids taken away. which in turn makes parents feel like having them drugged up all day is better or dare I say easier to raise a kid.

I fear what the future generation will be like.
SnF,
Peace, NRE.

Thank you for the "Back to the Topics at hand". Almost got de-railed.

How do we know that a child at 6 yrs old is bi-polar? We can barely communicate to get his side of the story?

It is definitely a point in history and society that we have to be aware of. We have become not only a self medicated species for everything from depression to sexual problems but we are ingesting substances of which 99% of us have no knowledge of their origins and true intent.

Aspirin, I know originally comes from the natural World but psytranclogeghiuejnfreoknersij...I have no idea. (Just an example of course)

Thanks.

Are drugs over prescribed in the USA? Yes especially when it come to young children who are still developing mentally.

You have to realize That some people actually need medication and it has improved the quality of their lives. You can't assume that it's all a scam to make money and these drugs aren't helpful. Pharmaceutical companies are a business if there was no profit what would be the point of spending millions of dollars to develop them.

Originally posted by drock905
Are drugs over prescribed in the USA? Yes especially when it come to young children who are still developing mentally.

You have to realize That some people actually need medication and it has improved the quality of their lives. You can't assume that it's all a scam to make money and these drugs aren't helpful. Pharmaceutical companies are a business if there was no profit what would be the point of spending millions of dollars to develop them.

Agreed and well said.

Some people need the medicines that modern science has developed. No doubt about that and well supported.

But (you know there has to be a but) when it comes to a point that kids, seniors and just anyone are getting prescribed everything and anything in order to facilitate quicker turn-around times in the clinics, quick answers to a depression (normal for everyone) and a method of baby-sitting a kid that acts out (Again normal in many cases) it needs to be addressed.

As I mentioned, the REAL danger is doctors getting paid to prescribe. Greed is human nature and doctors are not immune to it.

Do we need medical science and some of the advancements and medications to treat us? Absolutely.

Do we need doctors profiting from prescriptions? No.

reply to post by jude11

but we are ingesting substances of which 99% of us have no knowledge of their origins and true intent.

AMEN!
A good example is store bought meat. Much of it has growth hormones and antibiotics. It also does not have the nutrients we need.

Best Doctor I ever had prescribed a diet and medicine very sparingly. Diet can affect mood ability to learn excitability. Too little fat will cause "Rabbit Starvation" Mom had it and it made her "CRAZY" because the fatty sheaths around the nerves started to disintegrate to quote Doc.

I can tell you from personal experience that what you eat has a major impact on how you feel and even on depression. I have found I am very sensitive to diet.

Metabolism Conference: The History of Low-Carb Diets: lowcarbdiets.about.com...

....[lots of good studies]....

Jackie Eberstein gave an informative talk to help the physicians understand low-carb diets. I really liked her section about ketones (which are produced as part of fat metabolism). She explained how the body uses ketones and how the heart and brain actually run more efficiently using ketones than sugar....

Richard Feinman, professor of biochemisty at SUNY Downstate College of Medicine, and director of the Metabolism Society, spoke about how low-carb diets should be the one tried first (and if it doesn't work, then go to something different). He said that we know that no diet is better for obesity and diabetes, and that it's better than any other for many things. He said, "carbohydrate is not just a fuel; it's a control element" - meaning that it triggers insulin, which in excess triggers not only fat storage, but other negatives. He also said, "if you do a moderate diet, you get moderate results"....

Eric Kossoff works with children with seizure disorders at Johns Hopkins and spoke about the success they have had using ketogenic and modified Atkins diets for children with epilepsy and other neurological disorders, and how there is preliminary evidence that they may help some adults as well...

I talked to a man who has been diabetic for 17 years. He brought his HA1C from 18 to 5.2 by eating low-carb. His doctor tells him that he is "cheating" to do it with low-carb!

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The last comment shows how screwed up Doctors are!
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The thing that torques my testicles more than anything is that people sit there and let this happen without a word. Heaven forbid we take out a terrorist, and then the public cries foul play. Then they turn around and pump themselves or their kids full of poison, and that is perfectly ok. I do not mean to derail the thread, but I think it is fitting none the less.