A personal Gun story you won't see on the news!!

reply to post by LosLobos


Now I understand, you're a FUDD. An armed anti. A hypocritical snake who likes HIS guns but doesn't want people to have any of those ICKY black guns or, heaven forbid, handguns. If anything you're worse than the Brady Bunch who want to take all guns. You lick the boots of the gun grabbers and say, "TAKE THEIR GUNS, THEY KILL PEOPLE! I just kill little animals so mine are fine. See? They're pretty and cost a lot of money, they can't be bad".

reply to post by BioStatistic


maybe they were just gonna give her a ride with the bike to a garage? lol

Originally posted by LosLobos

Originally posted by getreadyalready


What is the right answer?

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This is easy. I'm one man. I can't change the world. Just because you shoot someone to protect your wife doesn't mean the very next day the same thing won't happen. What makes anyone think if they shoot a deliverance person then the very next day a deliverance person won't try the same thing?

I'm calling the cops! Some perp is not like a deer you set up to be shot. If you shoot then chances are he won't die right away. And if I was him then I would be totally upset you tried to kill me. Then, I would make sure if I die some folks are coming with me.

I have children and grandchildren just like you. They love me and I love them. I'm not going to risk my life and their future because I want to play RAMBO on the weekends.

You can't save everyone. You can't even save your own wife when her TIME is up on this planet. That's out of our hands. No one can change the future.

Dude, when it comes to trolling you fail epically. OP changed what could have been a VERY different future, and so did I: the woman in my story would probably not have even had a future had I not intervened. I have no idea what happened to her. She could have become a loving mother with ten kids or she might have died in the gutter a lonely, used-up crack whore; but at least she had the chance to live another day towards whatever lay in store for her.

I agree that one person can't save everyone; but if everyone looked out for the people around them, the whole world would have a very different future indeed.

reply to post by OldCorp

I agree that one person can't save everyone; but if everyone looked out for the people around them, the whole world would have a very different future indeed.

That is something everyone should heed!

If we each just take care of our own, and do right when we get a chance to, the whole world would improve overnight!

BTW, thank you for sharing your story. I'm sure you didn't give it a second thought, until after it was all over, and then you were probably wiped out running through all of the what-if scenarios!

Great job!!

So Lobo. if you had a gun and your wife/daughter was being assaulted/raped what would you do? Call the cops and engage the attacker in dialog for the next 30 minutes? " yeah could ya be a little gentler with her, shes only 14 ya know. Just take it easy, no need to let your friend have his way too...but I wont stop you if he does."

reply to post by pyrodude


Needless to say no matter what weapon I carry on me(I have many) I always check to be sure it is loaded before I leave the house since this incident

A friend an i were heading over to another buddy of ours, we were both in our own vehicles heading down a gravel road when i noticed a pickup truck pulled over in the ditch on the other side of the road facing me. as i got closer i seen a man holding someone down in the cab of the truck stabbing them repeatedly. I couldn't believe what i was seeing and my friend who was in the vehicle in front of me was seeing it too... I had on me my 44 caliber Ruger old army black powder revolver so i wasn't at all in fear for my life, but i was really concerned about who this guy was stabbing. at the moment he seen us coming he quit, and my buddy pulled up in front of the truck and i went passed the back and pulled in and got out, only to find that it was this guys girlfriend he had been stabbing with a kitchen butter knife....my friend got on one side of the door and i came up from the back and told him to step away from the vehicle and get down in the ditch, while my friend got the girl and put her in his mini van and drove away towards our friends while i kept the guy in the ditch with my 44.....i backed away and got in my car and quickly followed my buddy with the girl...when we both got to our buddy's we quickly got her in his house, now our buddy we went to was a retired medic from KU medical center up in KCMO so he instantly knew what to do with the wounds this gal had, they were more tares than they were actual punctures and she had them all over her, so many i couldn't count.....i told the gal i was calling the cops and was going to have them pick this guy up and she started begging me not to do it because he was buddies with the local cops and they wouldn't do anything about it and that she would really get it by him once he caught up with her.. well apparently my medic buddy actually knew her and he pulled me off to the side and said, DUDE this is nothing, the last time she was here she had a sucking chest wound and we had to rush her to the hospital and she wouldn't press charges against the guy and his crony cop friends from Eldo wouldn't do anything either because he was one of their informants.. I couldn't believe it.
i went home and was telling my mother about what had happened because i felt something should have been done and she told me just to drop it and not get involved.

I should have shot the prick in the face and left him lay and said it was self defense, this creep really had it coming and if I'd have known about the other stabbings he did on this beautiful gal i think i might have tortured him first before i wasted his filthy methhead ass

Originally posted by Slade88green
So Lobo. if you had a gun and your wife/daughter was being assaulted/raped what would you do? Call the cops and engage the attacker in dialog for the next 30 minutes? " yeah could ya be a little gentler with her, shes only 14 ya know. Just take it easy, no need to let your friend have his way too...but I wont stop you if he does."

Lobo appears to be a typical uberlib troll.

reply to post by OldCorp


I agree. it also seems he has left , at least for now. Likely to troll other threads. And I though for sure I could get him to admit he was full of BS. Never did answer any question put to him.

maybe the lady was clearing out the back for the bike so they could give her a ride back to town but they got scared when this big crazy biker guy (jokin) came out the woods. they may of thought you was the threat. i dont know i wasnt there.


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Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

the ideal weapon for a woman is a
loaded pistol in a .22 mag, .25 or .380 cal.

Tell that to my wife who is in the market for a 1911....And knows how to use it.

reply to post by getreadyalready


An interesting encounter you had, but from what you tell of it, I have to say that you responded in the right way to defuse any situation that might have came up. It does sound like they were after your bike and your wife could of been a target as well. And by there actions and the way they took of without a word, sounds like they were up to no good and possible trouble makers with bad intentions.

A more silent version of the art of fighting without fighting, were using your cool and the fact that if it came down to it no matter the consequences you would be more trouble for them then the bike or possible rape of your wife is worth, as well as the fact that when guns are possibly involved and things get serious, the situation usually end's up in only a couple of ways, and it usually is with somebody getting shot. Which really makes even the most craziest of people or possible criminal think twice before doing anything, and besides most criminals no matter there end goal, they are looking for a easy target, or victim's as they call them in hind sight after the whole thing goes down, in the statistics.

Though the original short story of the "art of fighting without fighting" is by a samurai monk by the name of Boku-den, I think Bruce Lee does a good job of getting that message across on to the big screen though in a more flashy way.
Things could of gone in any possible number of way's. Being to aggressive and pulling a gun out on an assumption, and things could of escalated. To timid and scared and if they were thief's and rapists then thats like giving them the green light to go ahead. Or they could of been there just to fish, or who knows what else. But dealing in such theories in real life while things are happening by the second is not a good way to proceed, better to not be a statistic, and if it's in your power it's always better to be save then sorry.

Good thread. I live in Arizona where you don't need a CCW permit, but I might get one in the future so I can carry out of state. I had a couple of close calls and have fiddled with the safety, but I've only pulled out my handgun once, which was last weekend. I was walking in my nice suburban neighborhood at night(like the quiet, live next to a school so...) and it was really windy. I heard a cracking sound and thought I stepped on a leaf or something. I heard another crack and my instincts told me to get behind some cover, but I still wasn't sure. I heard a third crack and then saw in the corner of my left eye bark flying off a trunk. Like an idiot, after the second shot I hesitated, so I'm lucky it was windy. I ran across the street, where there is a field of grass that dips down. There was also a wall that shows the name of the neighborhood so I used both as cover. I discreetly pulled out my handgun just in case I located who was shooting at me, and could safely shoot back if needed, which turned out to be a non-issue, as I waited a few minutes, decocked and reholstered my Makarov and walked off onto a different street and took a long route back home. I'm not sure if it was an Air-rifle or a .22, etc. but if it's breaking the sound barrier I defiantly don't want to be hit by it. I haven't reported it to the Police yet because it kind of left me shocked, but feel I will soon. I've trained and have become familiar with different scenarios, but I wasn't prepared for getting shot at by a scoped rifle in the middle of a suburban middle-class neighborhood. The only person I've told is my mom, and she didn't seem to believe me.

reply to post by getreadyalready


Well handled......When such creeps become a threat to the ones we love, Pack some John Rambo S*** and give them the coordinates to a higher dimension. Free them of their physical limitations.

Much respect.

getreadyalready . . .

i don't believe that this was intended to be a harmless contact on part of the locals, nor do i believe their eyes were solely on your bike. just doesn't pass the whiff test for a neighborly visit as described. or a simple vehicle theft. it honestly reads in a way that is all too familiar. i do criminal defense work, and i'd estimate a good 15% of my case files start out with a contact that could initially have been interpreted as harmless or even benevolent.

i've read, i don't know, 100's of police reports and victim's statements where contact starts out seemingly well and ends poorly. and i'm just one fairly new attorney. multiply that by a couple tens of thousands, you get my drift. we do live in a society where you have to be on guard and -- at least at times -- assume the worst is possible.

granted, we see only one side of this story, but this contact starts out somewhere south of harmless even. approaching a lone stranger -- especially a female -- in an isolated environment with no verbal greeting is in fact a threatening gesture. the actions of the old lady imply some further intent: they were there to do more than converse.

what their purpose we'll never really know.

i'll give the .380 at least partial credit here, even though i think you probably could have pulled it off anyway, a good head being the best asset to bring to the table . . . which you seem to possess.

Tell us more stories!

Originally posted by Serizawa
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

Well handled......When such creeps become a threat to the ones we love, Pack some John Rambo S*** and give them the coordinates to a higher dimension. Free them of their physical limitations.

Much respect.

going to have to remember that.

Originally posted by ItCameFromOuterSpace
Tell us more stories!

ROFL Yeah getreadyalready!! tell us more!!

Get ready
Your name says it all as well.
Prepared prior to event is the plan to pursue.

I have carried a pistol, M1911A1, loaded, round in chamber, cocked on safe for years.

The confidence this imparts is concrete. It overrides the victim mentality.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by 412304

 

but allowing guns just makes it easier for the bad people to have more force. If you have a scenario where everyone is allowed to have guns at all times, not everyone will carry a gun, so your saying that they dont deserve to be equally defended when an attacker comes at them with a pistol?

If we don't allow guns, the criminals don't respect the law, and they will have them anyway. If they don't have a gun, they might still be bigger, meaner, have a machete, or whatever. So, there job isn't any easier or harder, they will still find a way to do harm.

BUT, if we don't allow guns, the vast majority of people won't have a way to defend themselves against a meaner, more physical attacker. The "force equation" favors the younger, stronger, more aggressive people who have less respect for law and order.

On the other hand, if we DO allow guns. Maybe it is easier for the criminals to get guns, but every potential victim also has an equal right to be armed. A 20 year old 250lb male is on equal ground with an 80 year old grandmother. Without the gun, the 20 year old wins 100% of the time. With the guns, the 20 year old wins some smaller percentage of the time, ideally it would be 50/50!

If someone chooses to be a pacifist, not resist, not defend themselves, then that is their right, but it has nothing to do with what they "deserve," it only has to do with their own personal choices. It isn't the fault of the government, or the society, or the gunmakers, it is an individual choice. If we choose to make that choice for everyone, then we are choosing who "deserves" a right for life and liberty. We are deciding that only the young, strong, males will have the advantage in force equations. I don't believe that is our right to decide for anyone else. I say we make all guns legal in all places at all times, and let the individuals make the choices.

Question: Does Robbery equal DEATH? If the 20 yr old robs the 80 yr old grandma, is the punishment DEATH? So basically it is ok for the Grandma to pack heat, and kill this poor 20 yr old. What if the young guy had no money, and had to steal (which is wrong of course), but steal for his family and 2 babies? Does this man deserve to DIE at the hands of a personal firearm? Or does he need punishment, and learn that what he is doing is not right, and he shouldn't do this.