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Originally posted by wasco2
I may have put this story on ATS before but this seems like a good place for it.
In the early 1980s I functioned as a property manager in Savannah, GA for some commercial investment property my mother owned. O
Originally posted by LosLobos
30 years ago is not relevant to today.
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
I don't think you have been paying attention?
#1 I would quickly recognize law enforcement. The State doesn't hire people with no teeth, and they have a certain look and demeanor.
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
reply to post by getreadyalready
Los Lobos pulls this crap in every thread. I don't give him the time of day any more.
Originally posted by wasco2
I may have put this story on ATS before but this seems like a good place for it.
In the early 1980s I functioned as a property manager in Savannah, GA for some commercial investment property my mother owned. One of the buildings had a topless bar run by a Vietnamese immigrant in one half of the downstairs. For a couple of years she paid rent on time with no problem. When she stopped paying rent she started dodging me. Finally I called the bartender and asked her when the owner would be there. I was told she would be there at 11:00pm and I was there waiting for her. She didn't make excuses and handed me a check for all she owed and gave me the drink I had been nursing waiting for her on the house.
I left and got in my car to head to my home in the islands east of Savannah. The bar was in a part of town I wouldn't normally go to at night and although I wasn't really expecting trouble I had brought my licensed .357 magnum revolver. My car was a 1981 Camaro with T-top roof. Since it was a cool clear night I took the roof panels out and stowed them in their bags in the trunk. I had only gone a couple of blocks and was waiting at a Stop sign for traffic to clear when a black guy in flamboyant pimp attire popped out of the shadows at the entrance to a bar and asked me if I wanted a girl. I told him no thanks I didn't want a girl.
He walked to the edge of the sidewalk and proceeded to ask me if I wanted drugs, gambling, or a boy. I told him no to all but being a diligent capitalist entrepeneur he wasn't going to take no for an answer. He stepped off the curb and up to the passenger door saying, "Man, you got to at least come see these girls" and grabbed my door handle. When he grabbed the door handle I pulled the .357 Magnum from where I had put it between the seat and the transmission tunnel telling him, "I told you no. Now let go of my door handle". He let go of my door handle like it was red hot and put both hands in the air. With the hands still up he backed up to the curb and on to the sidewalk repeating, "It's cool, it's cool, it's cool". Then he bolted around the corner and was gone.
The gun at the very least got me out of a potentially dangerous situation. No shots were fired and no one was hurt. Without it he would have been in my car and it's a certainty he was armed with something. He never threatened me but once he had me on his turf on his terms things might have been different.
Many, many times the presence of gun defuses a bad situation with no one getting hurt. Most of the 2 million times a year people use a gun to defend themselves no shots are fired. When the tables are turned on a common street criminal and their prey becomes a threat they usually cease to think about anything except getting out alive. I should note I never even pointed the gun against this guy. All he had to was see it to realize he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
reply to post by wasco2
Great story. This might be a good time to remind gun owners that if you ever have to draw on someone to defuse a situation, call the police and file a report immediately after.
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Originally posted by wasco2
I may have put this story on ATS before but this seems like a good place for it.
In the early 1980s I functioned as a property manager in Savannah, GA for some commercial investment property my mother owned. One of the buildings had a topless bar run by a Vietnamese immigrant in one half of the downstairs. For a couple of years she paid rent on time with no problem. When she stopped paying rent she started dodging me. Finally I called the bartender and asked her when the owner would be there. I was told she would be there at 11:00pm and I was there waiting for her. She didn't make excuses and handed me a check for all she owed and gave me the drink I had been nursing waiting for her on the house.
I left and got in my car to head to my home in the islands east of Savannah. The bar was in a part of town I wouldn't normally go to at night and although I wasn't really expecting trouble I had brought my licensed .357 magnum revolver. My car was a 1981 Camaro with T-top roof. Since it was a cool clear night I took the roof panels out and stowed them in their bags in the trunk. I had only gone a couple of blocks and was waiting at a Stop sign for traffic to clear when a black guy in flamboyant pimp attire popped out of the shadows at the entrance to a bar and asked me if I wanted a girl. I told him no thanks I didn't want a girl.
He walked to the edge of the sidewalk and proceeded to ask me if I wanted drugs, gambling, or a boy. I told him no to all but being a diligent capitalist entrepeneur he wasn't going to take no for an answer. He stepped off the curb and up to the passenger door saying, "Man, you got to at least come see these girls" and grabbed my door handle. When he grabbed the door handle I pulled the .357 Magnum from where I had put it between the seat and the transmission tunnel telling him, "I told you no. Now let go of my door handle". He let go of my door handle like it was red hot and put both hands in the air. With the hands still up he backed up to the curb and on to the sidewalk repeating, "It's cool, it's cool, it's cool". Then he bolted around the corner and was gone.
The gun at the very least got me out of a potentially dangerous situation. No shots were fired and no one was hurt. Without it he would have been in my car and it's a certainty he was armed with something. He never threatened me but once he had me on his turf on his terms things might have been different.
Many, many times the presence of gun defuses a bad situation with no one getting hurt. Most of the 2 million times a year people use a gun to defend themselves no shots are fired. When the tables are turned on a common street criminal and their prey becomes a threat they usually cease to think about anything except getting out alive. I should note I never even pointed the gun against this guy. All he had to was see it to realize he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Finally, someone who used a gun in a wrong and unnecessary manner.
The pimp wasn't going to do anything too you. He would have been in your car and what...walked you to where his girls were at?
Originally posted by LosLobos
Instead of what you WOULD DO, let's examine some real world situations.
We already know interracial relationships are a reality. Let's say some white wife is assualting her husband because she is stone cold nuts. Then you walk in seeing the Muslim man defending himself from a knife weilding lunatic hell bent on sending him straight to his virgins.
WHO ARE YOU GOING TO SHOOT FIRST?
You don't know what is going on but something is definetly going on in your mind.
So now a cop shows up and sees a man with a gun, a man dead from a gun shot wound, and a white woman claiming they both tried to rape her.
We don't need RAMBO'S in this country.
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Finally, someone who used a gun in a wrong and unnecessary manner.
Originally posted by LosLobos
Why would they call the cops when all they NEED to do is rely on their "spidey sense" to be judge, jury and executioner?
We already know interracial relationships are a reality. Let's say some white wife is assualting her husband because she is stone cold nuts. Then you walk in seeing the Muslim man defending himself from a knife weilding lunatic hell bent on sending him straight to his virgins.
WHO ARE YOU GOING TO SHOOT FIRST?
You don't know what is going on but something is definetly going on in your mind.
Originally posted by Slade88green
Well lets see, I come upon a scene where a woman is attacking someone with a knife, black, white, red, green doesn't matter, the only one that is a danger at the time is the knife wielder. ]
He saw them and put his finger on the trigger.
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Finally, someone who used a gun in a wrong and unnecessary manner.
The pimp wasn't going to do anything too you.
Originally posted by LosLobos
Originally posted by Slade88green
Well lets see, I come upon a scene where a woman is attacking someone with a knife, black, white, red, green doesn't matter, the only one that is a danger at the time is the knife wielder. ]
Problem is you changed the whole scenario to fit your logic. I said the woman was attacking the Muslim man when you walked in. All you saw was a muslim man and a woman fighting about something. Even though the woman attacked him first.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
What is the right answer?
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