What if on May 21st, 2011, "Christ" does "return"?

Originally posted by skeptic_al
reply to post by SonicInfinity

 

Then he's going to be really really Pissed with Israel and the United States, simple.

Hmmm you mean the governments or the people? I would say the majority of world leaders if not all. The American people and Israelis are no more good or as bad as the rest of the world.

Christ is probably a figment of the imagination. Where's the proof that he actually lived? In that case, how can a non existent entity return?

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by NuclearMitochondria

5$ on annee falling for your bait, again.

The problem with ATS is everyone thinks there are few trolls

I don't bait - - and I don't "ping pong"

I give my opinion. Beginning and End of story.

I wasn't talking about you laying bait though. I'm saying you always seem to get baited by religious trolls/trollbaiters.
Of course if you like responding to their stuff there's nothing wrong with that. It just keeps them around which may annoy other members who aren't 'acclimatized' to the internet yet.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


Ok, i understand that jesus was born to a family, (although not about the two families) however this has no relevance to his second coming. He will return as he left, from the heavens.

reply to post by SonicInfinity




There are lots of problems with that one. First what if no one recognizes him? Supposing he is in a suit with short (conservative) hair and carrying a blackberry? What if he decides to appear first to the Pope? What would the fundys do then? They would reject him of course. What if he appears to the fundys and tells them to quit being political and stop bossing everyone else around. What if he ignores VIP's (like last time) and shows up in Mexico dressed like a poor carpenter. No one would believe him then. What if he appeared in Time Square and said that Christianity is off the track and has to be re-constituted leaving out all the negative stuff about sin and punishment and born again and all that?

Hell guys whenever or wherever Jesus re-appears he is going to be rejected by at least two thirds of humanity. Then we'd all have even more things to fight each other about.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by lestweforget
reply to post by Annee

 

The proof lies with the holy spirit, once you experience this nothing else matters.
Many people spend years believing in a god and or going to a particular church without knowing Christ or experiencing the holy spirit, therefore they get disillusioned with the church and in some cases religion in general such as yourself.

Oh please.

The delusion was believing.

How is it that it is a delusion? You have never experiences "the holy spirit" so thereof it is a mental disorder of defect? Well I have experienced a demonic or inhuman entity. I don't know what it was but it was real. Later i experienced the Holy spirit. Can you debunk it?

No

You gave up on GOD and or Jesus im guessing so to you it is a delusion?


I use to be that way until recently. It's easy to say something is not real, it is imagination until it happens to you. And maybe it will if you open yourself up to it be it good or evil. You don't need religion to experience it.

Originally posted by Caleb.K
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

Ok, i understand that jesus was born to a family, (although not about the two families) however this has no relevance to his second coming. He will return as he left, from the heavens.

He will return to Earth as a fetus and not as a 33yr old man as he needs to grow up in the world of for which he will learn of so that he could use his life experiences growing up to make a difference.

However there is nothing in any holy text to remotely suggest that the event even has to happen in the first place as it has always been up to us on Earth to be the entity who determines the date as we have been coming together as whole lot lately. Look at our recent reversal to pledge to be environmental friendly and be more eco conscious and our sudden reversal in our solemn promise to take better care of nature, wildlife and one another. As long as this trend continues, grows and expands the Second Coming could believe it or not be cancelled and avoided altogether as it's all predicated and contingent upon us and our actions and behaviour. We spiral the date gets pushed up, we come together it either gets pushed back or cancelled completely.

reply to post by SonicInfinity


it's all thanks to fear.

Fear drives all negative things to their destinations. Fear is what makes the ones in power rich (Hollywood has done that so far). And it's fear that is getting everyone on edge about the coming of the last days.

Now to me these Last Days are just a new beginning for all if they are prepared.

What does it include?

There is speculation that there would be no need for multiple religions and how that there would be only one religion and one God. And how there would be no more wars, in heaven and in Earth, as if our solar system is the epicenter of the whole cause. How that the Lord Jesus Christ would come down to Earth to cleanse all those that are Evil from the face of the Earth. As well, bind the Great Serpent, Lucifer.

Now this is just a speculation, and the Rapture, everyone disappearing/Translating into the celestial kingdom, will be a marvelous thing to see. Christ parting a mountain to save the people that killed him, 1. that would take a huge amount of energy to do, which is no big deal for this being, and 2. that would take a huge amount of compassion to forgive the people that killed and hurt you so much.

Now you may think that I'm a religious nut case, but I'll just give you, "Hey it's coming whether you like it or not, he's coming, and it's going to be stealthy for him, but not so stealthy for one that would come from another world. That one is an Anti-Christ."

Thanks for reading!

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Christ is probably a figment of the imagination. Where's the proof that he actually lived? In that case, how can a non existent entity return?

There are many people that existed 2000 years ago that left no "proof" behind. Unless you go digging for specific skeletons you will find very little success. Maybe the shroud of turn is proof but to some it will never be proof no matter what. If Jesus does not exist to you then that is ok whatever works for you. But telling people he does not "im not saying you are" but saying that is an empty argument. This anti Christian attitude going around is sickening.

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What if he is already here, but as yet, doesn't know it? As in, he might be called John Smith, but on such day, he gets the realization he is actually the JC himself

Now that might sound humourous, but if he were to comeback, what better level of protection for himself than to not even know.

Originally posted by moleskin
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

What if he is already here, but as yet, doesn't know it? As in, he might be called John Smith, but on such day, he gets the realization he is actually the JC himself

Now that might sound humourous, but if he were to comeback, what better level of protection for himself than to not even know.

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He's been back, but not in human form to do a "Drop and peek" of sorts on us all while remaining incognito. This occurs more frequent then the humanoid form. This would also afford him a sense of immunity and freedom from the press, people, the faithful and Government.

Dates, forms, locations and travel/personal detail is classified.

I speak with members of The Holy Family daily, if not hourly and got a premiere reserve with them as the things that I ask for are usually not for myself but for others. Everyone experiences the excitement of The White Light Of The Holy Spirit and the feeling is uncomparable, even better then sex and narcotics some say in a different way. For some it's through attending service, others it's through sex, others it's through "other" means (that will not be discussed here, LOL) but make no mistake, just because the experience nor history is and does not mirror yours does not make it any better or lesser or even worse then yours. This is a key element of how great God and The Gov't Of The Divine is as the door is rarely ever closed.

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
How is it that it is a delusion? You have never experiences "the holy spirit" so thereof it is a mental disorder of defect? Well I have experienced a demonic or inhuman entity. I don't know what it was but it was real. Later i experienced the Holy spirit. Can you debunk it?

You have no idea of what I have experienced.

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Christ is probably a figment of the imagination. Where's the proof that he actually lived? In that case, how can a non existent entity return?

There are many people that existed 2000 years ago that left no "proof" behind. Unless you go digging for specific skeletons you will find very little success. Maybe the shroud of turn is proof but to some it will never be proof no matter what. If Jesus does not exist to you then that is ok whatever works for you. But telling people he does not "im not saying you are" but saying that is an empty argument. This anti Christian attitude going around is sickening.

the antichrist heart is surfacing for all to see.

the faithful will rise while the unbelieving fall. this is the reality. and if not for internet, many Christians wouldn't experience the ' true ' heart of the antichrist.
because of internet we can plainly see what was declared.

If Christ came back I may as well put my head between my knees and kiss my ass goodbye. I'll be # outta luck.

But I don't have to worry. He doesn't exist.

reply to post by Unknown Soldier

There are no documents written during his lifetime which mention Jesus - none that date from the period 7 BCE to 33 CE, an interval that covers the probable years that Jesus is believed to have lived.

Can you point me to any?

reply to post by Damian-007
Even if you don't believe in The Christ, you have the Demons you must put to rest for your own sake, you will be visted by them until you dismiss them.
If you lean on The Christ it may be easier for you, as he has already been there done that.
It really cracks me up people don't have a clue what is going on here, not that I do, but I has an inklen.

Originally posted by steven704
the faithful will rise while the unbelieving fall. this is the reality.

In other words all Christians will rise to Heaven. The non believers will fry in hell till the cows come home! Hell's bells! I better pack my bags and be ready for the trip down under!

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Subject - Jesus Christ
Birthdate - Jan 05 05AD/CE
Birthcity - Beth-Lehem, Kingdom Of Judah
Death Date - Apr 09 33AD/CE
Death City - Jerusalem, Kingdom Of Judah

If on 31. of May christ returns, I'd head for the hills and live all by myself in the woods, because I'd refuse to live in a madening world like that.

The leader of the group proclaiming May 21, 2011 also goofed a long time ago saying that Jesus Christ would return in 1988! Sadly, HE WAS WRONG about that and many other things! The Bible states that if someone says something will happen and it does not, that person is a false prophet. Why do you want to believe in false prophets?? Yahshua said, "The truth shall make you free." Yes, Yahshua is coming SOON. There will not be any rapture before that time. Those who are sealed with His Name and His Father's (Yahweh) will survive all of these horrific events to see Yahshua return! Revelation 14:1. PLEASE do not have The Mark of the Beast (Revelation 13:18 Greek Diaglott, free on Web) The Greek #666 is the name Jesus Christ which also contains a cross (X as in Xmas!) You will only receive the plagues and not be saved! Pray to Yahweh NOW to accept His Son Yahshua as your Redeemer! May all the seasons of your life be filled with Yahweh's peace and joy is my prayer! Praying to meet you in Yahshua's Kingdom! Yahshua is coming SOON and no New World Order can stop Him! Halleluyah! This ancient Hebrew word means "Praise ye Yah". Shalom in Them!