What the Australian media is saying about the OBL killing ... may surprise you!

reply to post by ExCommando


I would love to comment to this editorial. Basically, I agree with much of its premise, but I do not believe that his conclusion is correct, that Osama bin Laden would have been proved to have been a horribly cruel man as this editor seems to believe.

I read the article that was in the NYTimes about his wives, and I am in agreement with his wives, that he would be found to be a gentle, kind, sympathetic man whose mission, while cruel and hard, created an impression that has been manipulated to be evil and dangerous.

In truth, none of that is true at all. But because we live in a world where people can only ever see one side, their own, and are easily manipulated by rash judgements, emotional and often wrong decisions, the only people who will ever know the truth about Osama bin Laden are those who were close to him.

I met him myself, and that has put me in a jeopardized position, but I do know for a fact that he is not the person that the media makes him appear to be. I do believe that he was working with the USA, that he loved America, and that this decision to shoot him is probably exactly what he wanted.

I thought of him as probably resembling the person of Jesus more clearly than any man alive today, in a way that only I understand, and I could see why then people found him to be Messianic. I saw myself as Alexander and attributed to him the character of King Porus. Like it or not, and I choose to remain anonymous, but I did report all this to the White House, the FBI, and local police agencies. Osama is clearly not like the media portrait at all. Believe me. I support his wives and daughter's assessments. He is very shy, even in adult age. He is a kind, gentle man but his mission was hard and cruel.

Originally posted by observe50
To the OP of which is the only post I read in this thread:

I do not appreciate you words "blood lust of the American people." The American people are no different then any other people in their Countries.

I for one am very tired of hearing words like this especially when/if the tables are turned it always seems to be okay for every other Country to do what they do to our men and women but "we" the Americans are put on the table when we do something.

I believe you need to take those six words back

edit on 4-5-2011 by observe50 because: (no reason given)

Why should I take my words back?

The media is portraying the American people as blood thirsty - it's not a disputable fact.

And if I, as someone who served in Afghanistan at the start of the campaign, side by side my American brothers, can't voice my opinion, then who can? What right do you have to try and silence my views on a subject?

Originally posted by Hendrix92TheUniverse
I would bet that anybody who lost a friend or family member, was not dancing in the streets like a bunch of morons.

Anyone that lost a friend or family member, may have a sense of closure, or may not because of the suspicious circumstances. And I'm talking about no evidence presented, and the supposed quick burial at sea.

Yeah, ok, let me get this straight, the U.S. will torture you until you die, even though torture may be against your core beliefs, but for Osama, they had to dispose of his body right away "in accordance with Islamic law".

Give me a break.

We all want the truth, but some fools, think that the government is going to tell the truth.

I wasn't dancing in the street, because I have my doubts that Osama lived this long.

And it is morbid, to celebrate the dearth of an individual.

But consider this, What would you do, if someone killed your family member? And from what I saw, the people in the streets celebrating had no personal connection to 911.

What a freakin' sad society.

Welcome to reality.
How many people died who had no connection to Quran burning??? This is how this war is.... DEATH, right or wrong

Personally I'm finding myself often being ashamed to be an American. Embarrassed by some of the stuff that has come out of our last 2 Presidents mouths. It's like caveman talk, I mean haven't we evolved at all as a species???? 9/11 as well as maturing into adulthood was a great catalyst into waking me up to the nightmare our government is, and the BS it pushes on us, and on the entire world too. It's becoming so blatant too, they don't even TRY to lie anymore.

I'm only 3 or 4 generations removed from Italy and Ireland where my anscestors are from they came to America when everything seemed so great only for my Nana's(my Mothers' Mother) and her Parents and family to get hit by the great depression; and it would seem I'm in store for the same within the next few years to come. Sometimes I just wanna pack it up and move to Canada or something.

Don't get me wrong, growing up as young child in the late 70's and early 80's was great. It was great to be an American as a kid, the streets were safe, the country was safe, we were the most powerful nation in the world by far, and we actually at least had "some" respect from many other countries. Yep being an American kid back then, oblivious to the corrupt government and it's doings was wonderful , I can't complain. As they say "Ignorance is..., well it was; Bliss".

But yea, many of the decisions and speeches made by the last few Presidents and the Secretary of Defense as well as Military leaders ect,ect just make me sick inside..., make me wanna cringe, and make me terribly ashamed to be an American. ((I can hear Tom Cruise in Born on the 4th of July yelling, "Love it or Leave it man, Love it or Leave it!" right now, before he woke up to the fact Vietnam was a complete disaster and farce)).

I just wish the PTB would do the right thing for once, and get our kids and loved ones back home.

"Turn on my t.v. and what do I see, killing , murder and blasphemy. Rape ,Arsan, robberies, people die from incurable disease. Crashes, Bashes, People on Crack. Scandal, war and Heart attack. Always strife in the Middle friggin East. If War sells Papers, why don't Peace?"

-Biohazard: Black andn White and Red all Over. -Urban Discipline *1992*.

Sheesh 1992 and a HardCore band from Brooklyn was singing lyrics about getting out of the Middle East. I mean how long have we had military operations going on over there for now? A straight 25 years? maybe 30? or 35?

I am amazed at how the media is handling this. I am in a location where celebration should have been at an all time high yet no streamers, no keg parties, no late night porch conversations. Oddly the only people awake were at my house celebrating Beltane. I get an uneasy feeling looking at the images of the celebrators as if it is unreal. I am not sure what it all is yet it is making the country look like the ***hole. I think it is a bit "tacky" to behave this way who ever is doing it.

Thank you for posting this sometimes it help to know what others really think about what is going on and not just our sugar coated version.

reply to post by Anusuia


PRK!

Originally posted by ExCommando
NZ if you like sheep
Aus if you like the beach

There are scary jellyfish on your beaches though! In all shapes and sizes. (The tiny ones are the scariest. They go through the nets.)
When I immigrate there, I'll stay inland, thanks. :]

There is always Canada,don't let the door hit you on the way OUT..

reply to post by Hendrix92TheUniverse


Excellant comment

I'm not American, but I would choose you guys as world leaders over any of the other contenders.....
Second line!

Originally posted by HybrisAlethia

Originally posted by ExCommando
NZ if you like sheep
Aus if you like the beach

There are scary jellyfish on your beaches though!

In all shapes and sizes. (The tiny ones are the scariest. They go through the nets.)
When I immigrate there, I'll stay inland, thanks. :]

Jellyfish are only a problem if you go up north - they're rarely an issue at all somewhere like Bondi.

I just wish the PTB would do the right thing for once, and get our kids and loved ones back home.

"Turn on my t.v. and what do I see, killing , murder and blasphemy. Rape ,Arsan, robberies, people die from incurable disease. Crashes, Bashes, People on Crack. Scandal, war and Heart attack. Always strife in the Middle friggin East. If War sells Papers, why don't Peace?"

-Biohazard: Black andn White and Red all Over. -Urban Discipline *1992*.

Sheesh 1992 and a HardCore band from Brooklyn was singing lyrics about getting out of the Middle East. I mean how long have we had military operations going on over there for now? A straight 25 years? maybe 30? or 35?

I don't profess to know the answers - I only know that it's vitally important that everyone educated themselves, and has their own opinion and belief system in this respect.

Good for you for seeing past the hyperbole.