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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Just as I thought. You know nothing about the specifics of the rather benign NAI and are just spewing conflations with some vague "NWO" scenario.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by misfitofscience
I've always said, a union might not be such a bad thing...nor would a one world government if done correctly.
Yeah? Well guess what, those in power think the same. Know what the difference is? They don't have any intention of the world becoming a fair and equal society if borders are erased; they aim for a global regime run by the globalist elite.
Canada's integration into the USA is key for it would secure resources necessary for the US to exist strongly in this new century. It will also give them a lot of room to expand their industry and exploit our resources.
Perhaps you people may not see the problem with my country becoming one with the US, but I certainly do, and it's not exactly hard to see it yourself when you look at what NAFTA was promised to the public to be and what it turned out to be: Canada, with a far smaller population and industrial complex than the US, becomes easily consumed by the larger US until the only solution proposed is more integration.
You can bet your ass that this has been planned for decades, or I guess it even goes back to the days of confederation when the US kept trying to assimilate territories like Manitoba and BC/Vancouver Island Colony and the territories had to unite all in the name of a union against the United States. I guess those who don't see the problem with the NAU obviously haven't paid attention to history, like the very reason why Canada was formed in 1867 and this little thing called "manifest destiny".edit on 29-4-2011 by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Redwookieaz
You one world government folks have this all wrong. It is absolutely a terrible idea! We've been brainwashed into looking at our governments in the opposite direction they were intended to be in the pecking order.
The individual is supposed to have the most power followed by a city government, then the state, and at the very bottom, the federral government. Think about it.
The people who would be at the top of a world government would have more in common with one another than with any of us peons at the bottom. What laws and customs that may work for a small village in China for example would have very little in common with the social structure and needs of a city in the midwest United States.
These supra governments would benefit the so called elites only, giving them a more efficient method to consolidate and execute their self serving goals.
You folks need to think these things through and realize we are meant to be at the top of the power triangle, not the bottom.edit on 29-4-2011 by Redwookieaz because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Redwookieaz
You folks need to think these things through and realize we are meant to be at the top of the power triangle, not the bottom.
That would be an awfully top-heavy triangle.
Geometry fail?
Originally posted by misfitofscience
I've always said, a union might not be such a bad thing...nor would a one world government if done correctly. after all its our Earth, Our countries, our oceans, our trees, our mountains, our skies, our limits...not the corporations, not wall street, nor banks, nor the mega conglomerates.
An Earth without boarders would certainly be truly free!
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Try studying capitalism, including its advanced stage of financialism, otherwise known as empiricism. Right now we have empiricism on a global level; the people at the top are the extremely wealthy. The US is both the political and military tool of the globalists, while the globalist institutions are the IMF, World Bank, and the WTO.
The US is the leading force of global exploitation: it not only encourages, but also carries out the exploitation of weaker nations and their populations to support themselves. The US government works hand in hand with the globalist elite because they support each other.
They clearly have vast control over a lot of the world, but the fact is that all empires fall and the US will fall hard. When the US loses its modes of production in the third world brutal CIA-imposed dictatorships in South America, Asia and Africa, it will inevitably collapse.
A North American Union will only work to help the US survive because it will provide economic and resource security, at our cost. We will be exploited on a level never before encountered, yet has always been on the planning tables of the US government even before confederation.
You speak of being joint US-Canadian? No wonder why you do not share the same views as the rest of Canada. Perhaps it is from the lack of education, or just the fact that you choose to look at Canada as some bitch state that should do whatever the US wants it to, somehow for our benefit. We have never benefited from "free trade" with the US, and we will never benefit from any other integration with them.
If you don't like the idea of Canadian sovereignty and autonomy, then get out of my country please- and leave your Canadian passport at the border.
Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
This is AWESOME!! I can't wait for this NWO, NAU thing to start.
Originally posted by redrose123
reply to post by misfitofscience
First of all it also includes Mexico. North American Union. Secondly they love to try to convince us how lovely it will be while at the same time they create tighter restrictions on things such as travel between the very places they want to join together. Talk about freedom. Have you checked out the new propsed questionaire for the passport now required to travel including Canada and Mexico. I also wonder how its sounding to the rest of this proposed NAU to merge with the US economy equal to a third world country plus the debt. Are they going to be willing to pick up that tab. You know all the drug cartels or Mexico and the we are better than you Canadians. Just thought I would ask.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Sigh. Too bad all of you want a vague conversation about the NAU, even though that is not what this article or information is actually about. This is about the NAI, which really looks nothing like the nonsense scenarios described by those who perpetuate "NAU" theories like superhighways. This is about getting Canada up to speed on security issues so they dont have to suck at the teat of American military defense systems.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by AuranVector
Please list specifically how the information presented in the OP threatens Canadian sovereignty.
I've asked this question of three different people in this thread now. It's a simple question.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
This is AWESOME!! I can't wait for this NWO, NAU thing to start.
What specific aspect of the information presented int he OP relate to ideas of a "NWO" or "NAU"?
Specifics, please.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
What in any of my responses have implied I am not well-versed in the inner workings of various global finance mechanisms you mention? Why do I have the feeling i've been on the ground working wiht this stuff while you were still in grade school?
And what I am pointing out is that Canada is not separate from that. That's what you dont seem to understand. Canada's interests are inextricably linked to the US's, for better or worse. IT is only juvenile, short-sighted college revolutionaries who think they can bash 'all' americans while ignoring their own complacency.
Again, do you REALLY think if America collapses it wont have negative effects on Canada? You claim to be well versed in these studies, and yet you seem to imply you think you live in a bubble.
Well, for like the 10th time, this isnt about a NAU. But AGAIN, it would benefit ALL of N. America. Your attempt to pretend you and your government are really that different from the states only shows how little you know about the subject. The similarities and common interests FAR outweigh the minor differences.
So, me being a dual citizen means I have a 'lack of education'? That's not a very well-thought-out argument.
LOL. I've asked you TWICE to list some examples of how the information in the OP threatens canadains sovereignty and you havent even attempted to answer it.
Clearly you know nothing about the specifics of the issue and are merely projecting your little liberal college Che Guevaraa complex on issues that in no way relate.
As for it being 'your country', are of Native descent? If not, what makes it more 'your country', than mine? I'm a citizen. I pay taxes, I vote, I participate in civic duties. Perhaps we should both relocate to Europe? Hell, I have a feeling I've been a dual citizen longer than you've even been alive. Maybe you should get out of my continent
Also, I'd LOVE for you to show this thread to your alleged professors.
Maybe even encourage them to chime in on this debate.
Are they the ones who tell you that Canadians are like Zapatistas?
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
This is AWESOME!! I can't wait for this NWO, NAU thing to start.
What specific aspect of the information presented int he OP relate to ideas of a "NWO" or "NAU"?
Specifics, please.