What would it take to appease some of you Birthers? (last birther thread)

Did black people ever request the long form birth certificate of former president Bush? lets all masquerade and talk like this has nothing to do with his color of skin. No. Because he is a "Muslim", a "terrorist" a "racist" a "communist", a "socialist".

All which Obama has been called.

"birthers" code word for "racist"

Originally posted by Skerrako
Ok so Barack Obama's short birth certificate was not enough for you (the one even Hawaiian gets when they are born and is perfectly legal.)

Now he releases his full birth certificate and it's STILL not enough for you?!

What do you want, a video of Obama being born and held up next to a newspaper on the day of his birth?

Would it really matter since all presidents since Kennedy have been controlled in one form on another by TPTB?

Can we drop this childish charade (which seems racially driven) and focus on bigger issues like um.......the collapse of our country?

If any birther dares, please respond.

LET THIS BE THE LAST BIRTHER THREAD

Let's also not forget that the first birth certificate was good enough to allow him to be president and good enough for all his opponents who had the funds to research it's authenticity, not to mention FOX News, O'Reilly, Republican party, etc...
So it's been authenticated by all these people who are against him and have a stake in finding it to be fake, but not good enough for birthers?
Let's even take trump (aka trumpet head)...he made these big claims that we wouldn't believe what his investigators were finding .... He has almost a billion dollars to play with and he couldn't find a shred of evidence.

Enough is enough.
Birthers, please return to your basements, put your Dungeon Master cape on, crack open a Mountain Dew and continue your Advanced Dungeons and Dragons campaigns. You are no longer needed.

Talk about a slow news day, geez...

I guess the important life changing news pieces have gotten a little boring for the people. How many days can a person wake up looking for some dramatic news, only to get "More Financial Woes for the World".

I guess people are also sick of hearing about sex involving young folks - another popular headline for when important news starts to get boring.

"Man 20 has sex with 15 year old" or "Obama Was Hatched in Hawaii For Real" is just so important to our lives. When do we as Americans stop coming off as a bunch of menopause regretting soccer moms? Geez

reply to post by jfj123


From an outsiders point of view looking in, it certainly seems like the so called "anti-birther" brigade resort to personal attacks far more quickly than the other side.

If I was American, I would want to know for sure either way - its the basis of your Constitution. The document released in no way puts the issue to bed. That could have been done by issuing a flat image straight from a scanner - and a few years ago at that. Job done.

I say keep digging.

In response to the question in the title of this thread, to appease me, answer the following still not resolved questions on Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Obama:

When did he convert from Muslim to Christianity?

Does his DNA prove he is not a reptillian alien entity?

Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by Skerrako

 

For whatever reason, obama has spent over two years trying to avoid releasing his long form birth certificate.

Why?

For that same time period, so-called "birthers" - and now Donald Trump - have been after obama to release the information.

It's been a stand-off.

Who "blinked"?

Obama.

Why?

To be totaly honest, yes, I was interested in the Birth certificate and it is interesting that he dug his heels in for so long. But what has my interest and what would appease me is is his keeping all his school and college records along with his medical records and his visa. What is this man? hiding?
Do I believe that this birth certificate is "the one"? No, I think he sees himself so far above us that some people'll believe anything he says. At least unseal his college transcripts see what is going on in his mind.

To all the people here playing the race card.

Stop.

You are talking rubiish.

Race has nothing to do with this and to accuse people of being racist in this case is 'truly' racist in itself.

Originally posted by PhotonEffect

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by PhotonEffect
If Obama was white no one would care. Gotta love this country and their priorities.

Trump for President!

Palin for President!

Romney for President!

(How about you Gingrich? Wanna get involved?) Newt for President!

Who cares, just fix our damn problems

That's a cheap, lazy, facile and false argument, and totally denies the fact which many black people are totally against Obama's policies and have a deep mistrust of him. What is it with some people. Are black people supposed to be beyond reproach because of the color of their skin? Is any criticism of Obama to be written off as racist?

IMO it's your own comment which is racist, actually.

edit on 27-4-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)

Hear Hear!

Racism still exists in this country whether you want to see it or not.

I am no racist. As I said in another post I voted for Obama and reside and am from NYC. I have many black friends. I'm just calling it as I see it. And it is my opinion that if he were white we wouldn't be having to deal with yet another friggin thread about his stupid birth certificate. You can thank your fellow Americans and the members of this site who care about this crap too much for that...

Too many other REAL problems to worry about than where this man was born.

Give me a friggin break already...

hmmm, a common theme here.
I wonder why all you bamamites aren't all mad starting threads about how obama screwed you all dragging this out if thats all that was on his BC. Isn't it obama's fault for dragging this out? I mean he is pres., he should be proud of being born here and being pres., right? It should have been done immediately.
And no, he obviously DOES NOT have more important things to focus on because it seems his attention span is very limited. This could have been done on day 1 or any other time.
Instead he spent millions of dollars of tax payer money on lawyers hiding all of his records.

Go read the histories of our Forfathers.
Do you have records of their school years, jobs and businesses, accomplishments? We know alot about Jefferson, Washington, John Adams, John Quincey Adams, Lincoln, etc...but what do we know of Obama besides he can play basketball (poorly btw, he has no right hand). Go look up John Q. Adams school records if you want to be impressed. That was a smart president. And it can be proven and it's ridiculous to want to hide such an honored and accomplished education. Really, that is a good thread eh? Compare the education between obama and J.Q. Adams.1 of the records we have can fit on the back of a postcard.
The other can fill books.
I mean, he has better things to do, right?

reply to post by Dominus1

Here's a better question..why don't you support your countrymen and listen instead of being a know it all big mouth? How about that..it is proven beyond a doubt to being faked..You would think with your all knowing mind you'd know this but alas it would seem you just are talking crap as a follower..not an individual that has enough experience to have said one word to begin with. I could careless about Obamas BC because I know damn well he is destroying this country..but..I support my fellow countrymen because the chance of it being true is huge..and it seems it is a fact..the document has been debunked by professionals who'd know..unlike you.You are a disgrace to your fellow countrymen.

Actually, the majority of our "countrymen" believe the President was born here, so it looks like I am supporting my countrymen. As I have said before I have a degree in Art so that DOES make me a professional, so you can stop with all the personal attacks as you do not know me. You can split ANY document into layers. A term paper I wrote can be split into three layer, as can most computer documents.

That means that while the long-form birth certificate may be fake, there is a perfectly equal chance that it is real as well! You birthers conveniently only look at one side of the argument, not to mention the overwhelming evidence he was born here. Do you know that millions of Americans do not even posses their original birth certificate?

reply to post by romanmel

In response to the question in the title of this thread, to appease me, answer the following still not resolved questions on Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Obama:

When did he convert from Muslim to Christianity?

Does his DNA prove he is not a reptillian alien entity?

In this fantasy of yours is there any evidence?

Looks like you played "Birther conspiracy roulette" with this post.

I'm not surprised by anything anymore. If he was born in Kenya, so what, maybe this is an outdated law anyway, I mean we elected our last president right off the short bus, twice. Birthers seem to cherish this fact, so i guess we reap what we sow, huh? Sorry about the generalization, birthers arent who I meant to call out exactly, what I meant was about half of the United States.
I guess I'd also like to add that before him was Clinton (caught in many lies, mostly ones involving moral terpitude, wrongly spelled I know) and back to Bush. Does "weapons of mass destruction" ring any bells?

reply to post by spolvil

From an outsiders point of view looking in, it certainly seems like the so called "anti-birther" brigade resort to personal attacks far more quickly than the other side.

I am the OP of this thread and beg to differ. Just go back and read my thread, there are many more personal attacks on non-birthers

If I was American, I would want to know for sure either way - its the basis of your Constitution.

This should be the last of our constitutional worries. Our sons and daughters are being killed in illegal wars, our toddlers are being groped in airports, our right to free speech is being restricted, and we are becoming debt-slaves.

Yet people focus on a birth certificate issue that has been resolved years ago, only became a topic on ATS again when effing Donald Trump brought it up, and many of us know the president is a shill for the higher elites anyway.

It's just plain old dumb

I Don't think ill ever understand why ANYBODY in their right mind would CARE about a presidential birth card.

I guess people still have some kind of hope that the presidents are going to change something idk..

Maybe people still think elections are fair and keep going out every 4 years to vote... I just turned old enough to vote, and i think i can safely say I will never vote for any president as long as I live.

The presidents are not the people in charge guys, a conspiracy website should know this by now...

reply to post by General.Lee

How about a valid, non-manipulated birth certificate? Face it; if GW could only account for about 5 years of his entire life, the left would have had a field day, and rightly so. All we got from BHO was a cover story about where he was but there is very little proof or documentation to substantiate it. This person creates more questions than he answers and that in itself should be a concern to every citizen.

See, you are being told and shown that this so-called birth certificate he released is fake. It is based on reality. It's not a single layer graphic document but rather a multi-layered graphic document that was created on a computer, but you are ready and willing to accept that, hook, line and sinker, no questions asked. He could have produced something written on a piece of toilet paper and you would probably frame it and call it real, cause' he's your boy. But for the rest of the thinking masses, that's not enough.

Account for only 5 years of his life? There are people that knew Obama in kindergarten, pictures from him growing up in Hawaii. He has been married for over 5 years and his daughters are over 5 years old, It's pretty obvious to those with logic that he didn't come from the moon and happened to land in a Chicago Senators office.

President Obama is not "my boy" as you put it. Birthers always cry foul when race is brought up, but just because I don't believe the ridiculous lie mean that I am pro-Obama?

No.

I am a true conservative (nearly a constitutionalists) and have grievances with nearly everything modern presidents (including Obama) do. I am just simply tired of this overblown and ridiculous conspiracy, especially when there are dozens of more pressing issues facing our society, country and world.

Would mainstream media give this much time to those "crazy 9/11 conspiracy theorists"? No, because we might find the truth. What about one world government? Nope, they denied that too until the globalists wanted to announce it.

So why pick up on the birther stuff? Because there is no way anyone (conspiracy theorist or other) will find a lick of truth in it

I believe Obama was born in Hawaii because I have a feeling she wanted her son to be born an American.

But Obama HATES AMERICA!

It's amazing we can have a thread filled with this kind of rubbish, and not one about marijuana.

Just saying :p

If he released a video of him being born on You Tube and then on film they do a DNA test plus use facial recognition technology, that might help.
Personally, I think he is a walking disaster of a leader who is selling your nation to the highest bidder so he can retire a wealthy man.

Originally posted by regor77
I'm not surprised by anything anymore. If he was born in Kenya, so what, maybe this is an outdated law anyway, I mean we elected our last president right off the short bus, twice. Birthers seem to cherish this fact, so i guess we reap what we sow, huh?

Sorry about the generalization, birthers arent who I meant to call out exactly, what I meant was about half of the United States.

edit on 28-4-2011 by regor77 because: (no reason given)

This is not an outdated law.
By your reasoning the Saudis could run for presidency and as they have enough cash to do a successful campaign, they would probably win......... Then what a wonderfully free country you would have.

Only Americans should be Presidents.............. And no Muslims either.

reply to post by Dhimmie


Nice extreme you point out but I guess i was more thinking that at least one birth parent from The U.S.A and an American upbringing. It seems that if you can run for any other political position with these conditions the Presidency isnt that far removed from this situation. I mean that is what the rest of congress is for, to keep the usual string of negligent and self motivated Presidents from going off the deep end without checks and balances. If a native parent is all that is required to make a new born an American citizen than it seems descriminatory to not allow them to "be whatever they want to be when they grow up" as is the American dream. George Washington was barely removed from being an u8naturalized citizen himself. As for muslims go, they have as much right as anyone to serve as president if they fit our "rules" as natural born citizens. If not what you just stated would be redundant.

reply to post by Dhimmie

Only Americans should be Presidents.............. And no Muslims either.

You are truly a hateful person for saying that (muslim part)

People like you are the reason some are ashamed to be America: because of the reckless bigotry and hate you clearly show here.

Grow up, and learn that humanity trumps race,sex,creed, orientation and everyother ill that divides us.

You make me sick

And YES this is a personal attack. A well warranted one