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You can't start a thread in a news forum if it's not news, that may be why it got dumped. I didn't see any threads about Maya Soetoro's birth certificate when I ran a search, so you could start a thread on that in a non-news forum if there was any reason to, but is there? I've never seen any birth certificate for Maya Soetoro so if it's just an unfounded claim with no proof, it doesn't seem appropriate to start a thread on it.
Originally posted by canadiansenior70
last time I thought I had some news my thread was dumped.
This is why Maya, who came here in the 1970s has a COLB from Hawaii.
After you click the link, look near the top where it says "New Thread".
Originally posted by canadiansenior70
EDIT: I meant to ask you... Just how do I start NEW THREAD? from the link you gave to me?
Originally posted by 15FORreal
reply to post by Runaway1977
ummmm wgar does that have to do with anything
Originally posted by canadiansenior70
reply to post by NorEaster
Forget the BC.
Look at my post before your last
More fraud than a BC???????
Maybe murder?
Originally posted by IamJustanAmerican
reply to post by Runaway1977
Are you for real?
If a person has a drivers license(apparently you don't)they would know the security symbols that is on EVERYONE of them would show up.
I don't know about Hawaii though, theirs probably are still paper.
Originally posted by aptness
On one side you have physical certified documents issued by a state of the union and the federal government,
Originally posted by imitator
I seem to remember the Hawaii Governor admitting publicly on January 18, 2011 that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
What are you talking about? Obama released his birth certificate months before the 2008 election.
Originally posted by imitator
Physical certified documents that took how many years to produce?
You managed to completely miss the point of my post. Of course there’s nothing physical about a PDF file, it’s a digital representation — a digital representation of an actual document that was scanned.
huh huh..... And there is nothing really physical about a forged PDF computer file.
You are remembering wrong.
I seem to remember the Hawaii Governor admitting publicly on January 18, 2011 that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jan 18, 2011
(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)
It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...
You continue to confuse the PDF, a digital representation of the scanned document, and the actual document, the birth certificate.
And now magically months later a hacked up PDF Birth Certificate file appears.... yeah right, only in a sheeple @ss kissing Obama wet-dream could this Birth Certificate be authentic.
Originally posted by aptness
What are you talking about? Obama released his birth certificate months before the 2008 election.
Originally posted by aptness
Of course there’s nothing physical about a PDF file, it’s a digital representation — a digital representation of an actual document that was scanned.
There’s at least two physical documents: Obama’s certification of live birth, that he released before the election, and the Department of Health’s internal certificate of live birth, publicly disclosed recently.
Originally posted by aptness
And my point was that birthers discuss ‘anomalies’ on a digital file ad nauseam, when, if a court ever asked for it, it would look at the actual document and not a digital representation of it.
Are you incapable of distinguishing the difference?
Originally posted by aptness
You are remembering wrong.
In any event, birth certificates are the business of the Department of Health, not the Governor. And they have already confirmed, under two different governors and two different directors of the Department, that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and they have the original record on file.
Originally posted by aptness
You continue to confuse the PDF, a digital representation of the scanned document, and the actual document, the birth certificate.
When you finally understand the difference you might want to reevaluate your ‘argument.’
His Certification of Live Birth is a physical document.
Originally posted by imitator
You mean the 1st forged 'scan' of his Certification of Live Birth, that one had anomalies as well...
No... Hawaii’s Certification of Live Birth is a laser print out of one’s original birth records, certified by the state registrar, with his stamp and a raised seal.
You do realize your talking about 2 forged documents that where digitally created 1st, it's no different than seeing a digital scan of Santa Clause driver license and then reproducing it physically.
Obama's original certificate of live birth is bound with one ledger containing 499 other certificates of people born in Hawaii in 1961, according to Fukino. There are 500 sheets per book, and 35 volumes of 1961 birth records. The last series of digits in the registration number found on Hawaiian long form and current computerized-format birth certificates indicate which number volume the original document can be found inside the health department first-floor vault.
According to Fukino, all books bound in the 1960s, including the one containing Obama's birth certificate, have a bright orange elasticized canvas cover and the year of the birth designated on its spine [source]
Citation?
Obviously you haven't a clue that the Governor was using the Department of Health to search for those records.
I’ll take the word of named government officials, speaking on the record, in their official capacity, over the unsubstantiated opinion of an anonymous member of a conspiracy web site.
There is no actual document, there is no original Birth Certificate
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by Runaway1977
Once you are born the hospital records all of the information and sends it to the state so that they can file it and issue you the kids bc. That's what takes 4 days.
Day 1 - Info gets filled out and packed up for shipping.
Day 2 - is faxed to the State Department Of Health - Bureau of Health & Vital Statistics office!
Day 3 - is filed with the State
Day 4 - The completed and certified bc is then issued to the parents!
edit on 15-5-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 15FORreal
.if that was his real card he would have gave it up as soon as people asked...not make up stupid reasons why he cant give it up..then all of a sudden have it for all to see