Forget the Birth Certificate! Wheres the Proof He Even Existed?

Anyhow, I agree with the ops in this thread
I think the entire republican party should run on this specific platform...this is what the people are concerned about overall in the nation.

and its totally debunk proof...so ya...write to your congressman and demand they use the arguments posted in this spam hoax..erm...fine crafted and insightful post I mean...demand this is the silver bullet to take down the presidency.

I see no possible consequence from that...its a shoe in.

Why does this thread have 61 flags?! Goddamn, this website is so embarrassing.

Never heard from him before 2004, huh You know, he did publish a book in 1995, Dreams from My Father in 1995. Book became really popular in 2004. But it was originally from 1995.

Originally posted by kwakakev
reply to post by karen61057

 

I hate it when a system is so complex and messy that no one knows what the hell is going on

An electoral college is a set of electors who are selected to elect a candidate to a particular office. Often these represent different organizations or entities, with each organization or entity represented by a particular number of electors or with votes weighted in a particular way. Many times, though, the electors are simply important people whose wisdom, ideally, would provide a better choice than a larger body. The system can ignore the wishes of a general membership.

en.wikipedia.org...

But you are right, I am pretty clueless about the whole US election process.

edit on 20-4-2011 by kwakakev because: spelling 'messy'

And yet it works. Its not perfect but its better than most.

Originally posted by whitl103

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by whitl103
Just as with most things, if you shave off the left and the right there will be some truth in the middle. Very rarely do I see an unbiased person asking for answers to inconsequential details like wedding party members and the like, nor do I see an unbiased person posting a couple articles they Googled for the purpose of shutting down the topic.

So, you ignore anyone whom uses google because thats too simple?
in order for someone to respond unbias in this thread, they would have to personally flipped the ticket and done interviews with old friends in hawaii?

rationality...your doing it wrong

Haha, oh goodness...

"For the purpose of shutting down the topic." It's generally pretty obvious if someone's approach is to find truth or to squash an idea. You're doing the typical false dilemma distraction from what I'm actually trying to say. If you're going for rationality, then you should know that we both know interviews with old friends in Hawaii is a step too far.

Go ahead and Google every reasonably pertinent question posed about Obama's secrecy. Compile one list. It doesn't even have to be that long. I won't ignore it.

Given the amount of time you're spending on this thread, I question which of us is the irrational one.

Have fun being condescending and continuing to miss the point...you're doing it right.

Actually there has been plenty of proof shown that disputes everything the OP is spinning in his thread. People are ignoring facts here.

Look at the title of the thread, for one.

Just because you think "there must be a conspiracy" doesn't make it one.

"What is more likely?", should be your question.

Most people in this damned thread aren't asking that question at all.

We are fact checking, not just kissing Obama ass.

If there was real evidence I would be the 1st one supporting this thread. All I see is partisan bullsquat.

reply to post by mudbeed

Yes, yes, sure okay all we keep hearing from the debunkers are this one or that one is a fool, but none of them can come up with clear evidence that proves otherwise. All I see here is people trying to protect someone that looks more and more shady than he was yesterday. All of you that continue to deny that Obama is a fraud I think is helping in continuing this investigation to finding the truth. So, by doing that you do a great service in getting to the bottom of it all. Thanks to all you debunkers it makes it look like a lie even more.
Paying attention to this thread makes you support the idea that it must be true, thanks for your support.

This man is dillusional... i mean the proponent of this tread.

Originally posted by Freenrgy2
reply to post by vjr1113

 

Perhaps you missed all the evidence that states that these newspaper announcements are not a reliable indicator of where he was born. I only see a residence for the papers (they don't actually need be present to have that listed), nor do I see the name of the hospital where he was born.

Anyone could have placed that annoucement in the paper.

Those newspaper anouncements are automaticaly filed whenever a birthirth certificate is issued.

They mean absolutely nothing.

There are multiple ways for a BC to have been issued without being born in Hawai. - that is why we need to see the original ling form BC! .....................and that is why it doesn't exist and they will never admit it!

Originally posted by errolan
This man is dillusional... i mean the proponent of this tread.

Another great supporter that makes this thread ever more legitimate and makes for further discussion surrounding this conspiracy. I look forward to what Corsi's book has to say.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Oh yes all of them.
You will know my name like you know the Kennedys. I have three sons. So look forward to at least 24 years of rule by them. And every one a Dem.

reply to post by hawkiye


I vote this the best thread of the year. Thank you OP!!! Lets see the Obamamites answer these questions.

Originally posted by hawaii50th
reply to post by mudbeed

 

Yes, yes, sure okay all we keep hearing from the debunkers are this one or that one is a fool, but none of them can come up with clear evidence that proves otherwise. All I see here is people trying to protect someone that looks more and more shady than he was yesterday. All of you that continue to deny that Obama is a fraud I think is helping in continuing this investigation to finding the truth. So, by doing that you do a great service in getting to the bottom of it all. Thanks to all you debunkers it makes it look like a lie even more.
Paying attention to this thread makes you support the idea that it must be true, thanks for your support.

edit on 20-4-2011 by hawaii50th because: (no reason given)

Are you really that blind? Have you not read peoples post since the beginning of this Debate?

Look back to the 1st 4-5 pages. There has been plenty of real evidence given with multiple sources.

IT HAS BEEN DEBUNKED.

Don't turn this around just because you don't like the answers.

Originally posted by hawaii50th
reply to post by mudbeed

 

Yes, yes, sure okay all we keep hearing from the debunkers are this one or that one is a fool, but none of them can come up with clear evidence that proves otherwise. All I see here is people trying to protect someone that looks more and more shady than he was yesterday. All of you that continue to deny that Obama is a fraud I think is helping in continuing this investigation to finding the truth. So, by doing that you do a great service in getting to the bottom of it all. Thanks to all you debunkers it makes it look like a lie even more.
Paying attention to this thread makes you support the idea that it must be true, thanks for your support.

edit on 20-4-2011 by hawaii50th because: (no reason given)

Circular reasoning much?

Look... I dislike O'bummer just as much as anyone else but it's wild accusations like this thread that make the folks that have legitimate concerns and real evidence of corruption and deciept look like loonies. You ever heard the story of the boy who cried wolf?

So... thanks to you for providing such inciteful analysis of this thread...

reply to post by mudbeed

Every one of those sources are pro Obama, of course their going to debunk this. Every time the Obama lovers point to a source, it's always a biased source that continue to promote more lies not real solid evidence.

Originally posted by hawaii50th
reply to post by mudbeed

 

Every one of those sources are pro Obama, of course their going to debunk this. Every time the Obama lovers point to a source, it's always a biased source that continue to promote more lies not real solid evidence.

Wikipedia is a "obama lover" organization?

Thank GOD for Obama!!!

Never forget that were it NOT for Barry... We wouldn't be able to tell the boneheads from the NOTBoneheads.

Thank GOD Barry has striven to divide this USA into factions; waking up those that slept deeply!!!; clearly marking others that have chosen to soak their minds, deep in excrement.

Also, Remember to pray for those excrement soaked minds; they will be helpless as USA society collapses. They are like fearful children in the dark. Spineless as their fearful leader.

Thank GOD for Barry! \o/

Out of much evil... Much GOOD will come.

Really? I just read this post. Did you google his best man AT ALL?

www.celebritybrideguide.com...

I didnt even look for anything else. What is happening here at ATS? Deny ignorance? It been more like embrace ignorance lately.

reply to post by Blarneystoner

For blarney's sake cheese already, You see it the way you like, and I'll see it the way I like. What matters is truth will prevail.

Originally posted by coop039
Really? I just read this post. Did you google his best man AT ALL?

www.celebritybrideguide.com...

I didnt even look for anything else. What is happening here at ATS? Deny ignorance? It been more like embrace ignorance lately.

Deny ignorance is not in effect in obama slamming threads

reply to post by SaturnFX


Oh no you didnt!!!

And therein lies the rub. Hes not white, his name sounds foreign. The good ol boys just cant stand it. Which makes me LOVE IT !!!