The Final Warning to Tokyo

Nobody can predict exact location and time of earthquakes ...i mean nobody

reply to post by TrueAmerican


All i can say is there have been loads of quakes in the area since March 11th, most likely more to come..... you could be right in that another biggie will hit and create another Tsunami.... i guess we'll just have to wait and see... however i would expect most people in Tokyo will be leaving for someplace else anyway... well, i would if i lived there.....

I am sure the Japanese government are going to listen to a bunch of people from ATS...lol

reply to post by PuterMan


Yeah, your thoughts are appreciated. But I am not using cumulative energy or trends. I am simply looking at locations and depths of these quakes. This area is different, PM. The junctures of those plates so close together next to such great activity that has occurred changes things. I contend that such great activity and ground movement will most assuredly cause pressure loading of the southern zone. And it has already reacted.

If I am wrong, then why are the quakes getting so close to Tokyo now? Why is the southern zone showing activity? I already showed in the other thread that when you pull maps from the JMA, there is more activity than what is being reported by USGS. Even the USGS bent their own rules on the 2.5/4.5 list to include all the activity in the 4.4 range, because it was significant and in quantity.

In a place like Chile or Sumatra, I'd be more apt to abide by the trends and energy graphs. But not in Japan. Those plate junctures change everything, imo.

Another interesting thing is that the USGS classifies that southern zone as a transform fault. Since usually a transform fault exhibits motion side to side, and not up and down, one thing that has always bothered me with that assessment is how the 1923 tsunami could have happened. Think about it.... It is still a subduction zone and subject to the type of megathrust quakes that happen on them. In my mind, the 1923 tsunami proves that.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
You mean to say that after a 9.0 earthquake, the citizens of Japan don't know they can have bad earthquakes? And here I thought the Japanese were smart.

For even the most educated professionals, seismology is a tough field. If they can't predict with any certainty, why you, looking at the USGS grid, who the same professionals look at, can't tell?

Now you are looking at little squares, they know what is an earthquake and what is an aftershock, do you?

And the earth has this bad habit of running on its own timeline. That we are just a blip of. The island of Japan may be gearing up for another big one....10,000 years down the road. Which is still the blink of an eye in the Earth's timeline. By then, they will be prepared, if we are not living on another planet.

Why don't you go read other TA posts and do some research before attacking him? Also, you do realize this is a conspiracy site, correct? That means, people are going to put non-mainstream thought patterns forward, guess what, that is how progress is made.

I'm tired of everyone derailing threads, attacking posters, etc, etc... it doesn't add to the dialogue and just makes a thread tough to get through sometimes (I wish we had an ignore button). If you don't agree, fine, but don't come in and attack, which you did in a sly way. There is validity in skeptical thought, but nastiness doesn't have to play into the message. Everyone on this thread that is attacking the OP without engaging in thoughtful discourse has an agenda.

Thanks for the information TA, whether or not this happens, I will continue to follow your threads/posts.

Originally posted by MidnightTide
I am sure the Japanese government are going to listen to a bunch of people from ATS...lol

Imagine them evacuating the entire city of Tokyo (costing billiona) all because of this thread.

Originally posted by MushroomWig

Originally posted by MidnightTide
I am sure the Japanese government are going to listen to a bunch of people from ATS...lol

Imagine them evacuating the entire city of Tokyo (costing billiona) all because of this thread.

And the ""'s make this post more palatable? Of course they won't, OP says so himself and was just posting what he thinks should happen, he even mentioned that he contacted someone in Japan.

Tokyo won't be evacuated due to this thread, everyone knows that.

TA, thanks again for your research, you bringing the imagines in and trying to figure out what they mean is useful information. I don't know enough about seismology or geology, so the topic is intriguing.

reply to post by Nephi1337


Well said!!

More fear mongering. OP...do you have geological degree? I doubt it. Japan is a very active seismic area and these readings happen every day for many many years. There's always nice little yellow or red squares showing up over there. Sure...big earthquakes will continue to hit Japan. Maybe tomorrow, maybe not for another 100 years. But there is no way to predict quakes yet...so all this analyzing of very normal data does nothing.

When I said "personally" I literally meant "personally" meaning I would have dragged my sorry individual behind onto the next plane to anywhere but Tokyo. I live in earthquake land and we are overdue for a big one. I am sure when it does arrive many will say "Why did they live there? They must have known it was dangerous?" Yes and yes but we roll the dice.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Leo Strauss
Personally I would have evacuated Tokyo after the nuclear meltdowns. Just too close for comfort. I can predict with near certainty an aftershock in the 8.0 range in the coming months based solely on the fact of the 9.1 earthquake.

Please share with us your detailed evacuation plan... that would be MOST helpful... thanks

This is slightly off-topic, but I wanted to point out how words can derail a conversation/thread or add to it.... this is for everyone attacking the OP.

reply to post by ICEKOHLD


Mind if i ask what the app is called...i wouldnt mind trying it out too

Originally posted by ghostrecon
reply to post by ICEKOHLD

 

Mind if i ask what the app is called...i wouldnt mind trying it out too

I use Earthquake Alert! on Android.

reply to post by Finalized


I think it has to do more with the style rather than the thread itself.
the heading for a start "The Final Warning to Tokyo"
catchy headline gets the views, but is it the final warning?
It took someone like me to be pesky to get the OP to contact someone in Japan.

I would have had no problem with the thread if it was more informative with less of the dramatics.
puting forward a theory and then even placing a date that the event could take place.

The OP has his bakckside covered however because EQ's are occuring all the time and a tsunami may only be 6 inchs in height, but still would see the OP as being correct with his prediction.

You give the doom and gloom predictions like we see come and go on ATS all the time and people just pull out their hair with frustration.

with a headline like this, I want the OP to go all out and estimate the size of not only the quake, but also the size of the tsunami.

reply to post by TrueAmerican

But I am not using cumulative energy or trends.

The graphs were just included as an indicator of current activity and not as a negation of your theory by the way.

I still feel that a large earthquake is unlikely this close to the mega-quake, and there is no historical record of a mega-quake (9+) following another in such a short space of time. There is of course always a first time.

Edit to add: Just as a matter if interest the past activity (2002 onwards) for the area around that 5.1 quake is as follows:

Date Time Lat Lon Depth Mag Magt
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2004/04/07 13:47:02.65 34.2480 140.3140 50.40 5.10 Mw
2004/05/16 07:21:03.60 34.1580 141.4200 45.60 5.10 Mw
2004/05/29 20:56:09.60 34.2510 141.4060 16.00 6.50 Mw
2004/06/01 03:08:48.20 34.4940 141.3910 17.60 5.30 Mw
2004/06/20 05:39:02.97 33.4160 140.6290 64.10 5.10 Mw
2004/07/17 06:10:18.07 34.7460 140.2180 46.10 5.60 Mw
2004/11/08 15:07:24.50 33.7210 138.4030 10.00 5.60 Mw
2005/01/19 06:11:36.40 34.0640 141.4910 27.80 6.60 Mw
2005/01/21 17:58:56.41 34.0030 141.3670 10.00 5.80 Mw
2005/07/09 23:37:11.14 33.4220 140.8250 55.20 5.80 Mw
2005/09/24 14:48:48.32 34.2970 140.8200 66.50 5.20 Mw
2005/11/15 20:20:45.79 33.3360 141.3510 15.90 5.70 Mw
2005/11/17 21:59:29.93 33.3190 141.3880 10.00 5.70 Mw
2007/04/13 18:11:06.27 33.5930 140.8100 59.60 5.40 Mw
2008/02/10 00:37:16.41 34.7240 140.0360 95.30 5.00 Mw
2008/02/21 17:39:39.14 33.6180 140.3770 35.00 5.00 Mw
2008/04/23 01:27:20.19 33.5280 141.0750 65.60 5.10 Mw
2009/08/10 20:07:09.11 34.7430 138.2640 40.40 6.20 Mw
2009/12/18 11:48:32.72 33.5680 141.0830 26.40 5.20 Mw
2010/10/30 19:06:17.88 34.3210 141.2670 26.30 5.10 Mb
2010/11/14 06:10:29.35 34.0360 141.3730 26.80 5.20 Mb

The parameters for the search were:
Your search parameters are:

* catalog=ANSS
* start_time=2002/01/01,00:00:00
* end_time=2011/04/20,15:37:14
* minimum_latitude=33
* maximum_latitude=34.75
* minimum_longitude=138
* maximum_longitude=141.5
* minimum_magnitude=5
* maximum_magnitude=10
* event_type=E

ANSS Search

As you can see this 5.1 is one of the smaller quakes in this area.

reply to post by Finalized


Thank you. I really appreciated that video.

Would it work? I hope so.

Well, if the pentagon is to be formed, San Francisco would be next, from what I read. And only on certain dates, ie. the wedding, of the Royals, where Saturn and Exalted Morning Star Position Venus are in opposition. And Saturn is in Virgo, harvest position for the house of marriage. 29 is just another 11. And so we have, 4 11 11. But as they code all these things, code the matrix is a step up from saying, these negative draconian spell casters, cast their spells, in the movies, online, in music, shows murals in banks and airports, statues under the ocean, that everyone scratches their head over. Come on wake up. Oh but don't forget to alert us, the ones who's consciousness is being hjacked and who's emotions are needed for the spells, we're supposed to see it.

Well 429 is a number flashed on the bus in the movie the Core, and put out there, when the birds suddenly fell out of the sky. TV series Flashforward depicts 429 as a date of loss of collective consciousness, I believe due to all the fear based programming we're getting.

Mark 4 29: As soon as the grain is ripe, he puts the sickle to it, because the harvest has come.


The fact that most can't evacuate Tokyo, without a movement to do so, is because are living like working class slaves and actually need shelter, food and necessities for their families.

Its the Titanic, the rich bail.

And anyone who thinks this is natural should start to pay attention.

Uncovering the trail of what is going on, what the universe is basically, how do we get our consciousness back.

I really think that Tokyo should pick up enmasse and exit and also demand their tax dollars be spent on them. 30 million should be a huge crowd to confront the leaders with. But they're very polite peaceful people......

So how do we approach, with metaphysics, and positive images, prayers, meditations, this situation. We all have negative memes stuck in our head, how do we turn it around with faith, love and a vision for an equal eutopian safe, world?

I think this is the work now.

reply to post by kro32


How do all these threads become so hostile? Kro, if you don't read the news, a lot of news are all over even in Japan, warning people that within this month or the next 2 weeks, an earthquake at the magnitude of 8 will happen. And they said they are POSITIVE it will happen very soon, even if it doesn't happen in their predicted time frame. Kyoto University already said they will be getting large and small earthquakes quite frequent for the next TEN years. This is an official announcement.

A lot of people in ATS are flat out delusional, but I think people like TrueAmerican always have reasonable proof and reasoning behind his positively intentioned warnings. I think this thread is great. People need to see that there are proof to back up the claims of seismologists, as what TrueAmerican is pointing out.

Therefore, I think you should give him some credit instead of saying he's fear mongering. A lot of people are, but some people are just trying to be watch out for others.

reply to post by xavi1000

not so sure about it... as soon as we can it will be classafied information....!!!!!!

to much is depending on it... militairy... economy....ect....
they will never inform us about a EQ coming....until we feel it....

Originally posted by PuterMan
As you can see this 5.1 is one of the smaller quakes in this area.

Of course I am aware of that, and course I have seen the historical seismicity charts.

But what will it take to pound home the simple idea that in the CONTEXT of the recent activity, the timing and location of this quake are very important, considering the other quakes that have happened? Normally I wouldn't even pay it any attention. But the bigger picture needs to be considered.

I don't expect a 9+ again on the southern zone. The 1923 was a 7.9. But location, location, location. It is critical. As noted in Haiti and Christchurch recently. It doesn't have to be extremely big to be deadly. It just has to be close to a major population center. I think Tokyo qualifies, and the faulting mechanism clearly exists there for it to happen again. That is not debatable. It happened, and can happen again.

There has been enough activity now on the southern zone to be concerned. In fact, anything occurring on that zone in the upcoming months should be considered dangerous because of the potential for a massive stress release- caused by built up pressure over time, and compounded by recent pressure loading from the 9+ activity.

I don't know man, I feel terminally and cosmically linked to this sequence after that meditative session in which I was given the information a year ago about the next big 8+ occurring in Japan. It consumes me. Perhaps too much.