Muslim Brotherhood leader talks of applying Sharia law (In Egypt)

What I want to see is the people who called names on anybody here who DARED mention what the Muslim Bothehood might do when the protests were in motion.

Originally posted by infojunkie2

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Muslim Brotherhood leader talks of applying Sharia law (In Egypt)

www.irishtimes.com

Deputy supreme guide Mahmoud Ezzat said the Brotherhood wanted to transform the country into an Islamic state once its political arm, the Freedom and Justice party, secured widespread popular support.

Al-Masry al-Youm , an independent daily, reported that Sheikh Ezzat also said the movement wanted to apply Muslim canon law (Sharia), but said “enforcement of Sharia punishments will need time and will only come after Islam is planted in every heart and masters the life of the people . . .”

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I know that many here do not believe in the bible,and I don't know if you are one of them,
but in Isaiah19, these are the words of prophecy concerning the future of Eqypt in the last days.

Verse 2 I will stir up the Eqyptians against the Eqyptians,they will fight every one against his brother and every one against his neighbor,city against city,kingdom against kingdom.

Wasn't the above what we saw going down during the uprising,It was Eqyptians against Eqyptians.

Then for the confirmation of your thread title we see, that after the uprising we have verse 4

And I will give over the Egyptians into the hand of a hard and cruel master,and a fierce king will rule over them.
This also indicates the same order, meaning that the uprising in Eqypt will come first,then the fierce king.

According to the prophecy,the next thing we should hear about after the new leadership is set up,

Is this...,verse 5 And the waters shall fail from the Nile,and the river shall be wasted and become dry,
verse6 The rivers shall become foul the streams and the canals of Eqypt shall be diminished and dried up.

Interesting although the Aswan dam already destroyed the Nile in that no more silt travels downstream to re-fertilize the riverbank farmlands seasonally. That cycle is what drew civilization to the Nile banks and they purposely disrupted it. Makes you think of the stupidity of human progress. Of course the conspiratorial view is that this action made the nation dependant on world agriculture cartels.

The other prophesies could have been seen as coming before the time of the dam, and Mubarak was the fierce king. The thing about bible prophesy is that in every age people see parallels and believe they are witnessing the end times. The next generation will witness the Aswan dam filled with silt and useless, more mideast turmoil, and think the same prophesy is in their day.

On the other side of the aisle there are the nutjobs in Iran who think they are about to bring in the Mahdi, they just released a video for the dumb masses to soak up. Their signs are Yemen taken over by Islam, the death of one named "Abdullah" (probably the most common name in the Arab world like John in the West) in Saudi Arabia, and some leaders pushing their version of Islam down other peoples throats straight through Bahrain on into Mecca. When this fails miserably the cycle will start over again in future generations.

have they even defined what their definition of sharia law is? because it pretty much varies A LOT

There are numerous schools of thought regarding what is and is not Sharia, with both minor and major disputes between them being common.

reply to post by emptyOmind


The actual nuts and bolts in a court is all up to a jurors interpretation of scripture and other self professed prophets rantings that the judge sees fit to supply to jurors.
For sentencing go see what the Taliban did to people in their soccer stadium. Canings, mutilations, burying people then stoning them to death are all a part of a good days entertainment.
Sharia also includes women hiding their faces, no education rights, infidels being taxed and used as forced labor as a privilage for allowing them to live until such time as they convert.
Go read stories of european sharia courts recently. Knife weilding muslims walk out the door freely if the victim is an infidel is my favorite most common one. Gotta love impartiality.
Go look up the ravaged south pacific after the tsunamis where they set up sharia law. They got roving bands of sharia cops, err thugs depending on their moods and dispositions, out in the streets making sure your pants are not too tight or you sneak a hand hold in with a galpal. To the caning post you go.

The liberals love this stuff they will tell you sharia is good.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
reply to post by emptyOmind

 

The actual nuts and bolts in a court is all up to a jurors interpretation of scripture and other self professed prophets rantings that the judge sees fit to supply to jurors.
For sentencing go see what the Taliban did to people in their soccer stadium. Canings, mutilations, burying people then stoning them to death are all a part of a good days entertainment.
Sharia also includes women hiding their faces, no education rights, infidels being taxed and used as forced labor as a privilage for allowing them to live until such time as they convert.
Go read stories of european sharia courts recently. Knife weilding muslims walk out the door freely if the victim is an infidel is my favorite most common one. Gotta love impartiality.
Go look up the ravaged south pacific after the tsunamis where they set up sharia law. They got roving bands of sharia cops, err thugs depending on their moods and dispositions, out in the streets making sure your pants are not too tight or you sneak a hand hold in with a galpal. To the caning post you go.

The liberals love this stuff they will tell you sharia is good.

so all muslims are taliban or behave like taliban?

there are extremists in every religion

reply to post by dontreally

Its almost as if this Egyptian revolution will cater to exactly this purpose.

I wondered that myself.

Originally posted by emptyOmind

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
reply to post by emptyOmind

 

The actual nuts and bolts in a court is all up to a jurors interpretation of scripture and other self professed prophets rantings that the judge sees fit to supply to jurors.
For sentencing go see what the Taliban did to people in their soccer stadium. Canings, mutilations, burying people then stoning them to death are all a part of a good days entertainment.
Sharia also includes women hiding their faces, no education rights, infidels being taxed and used as forced labor as a privilage for allowing them to live until such time as they convert.
Go read stories of european sharia courts recently. Knife weilding muslims walk out the door freely if the victim is an infidel is my favorite most common one. Gotta love impartiality.
Go look up the ravaged south pacific after the tsunamis where they set up sharia law. They got roving bands of sharia cops, err thugs depending on their moods and dispositions, out in the streets making sure your pants are not too tight or you sneak a hand hold in with a galpal. To the caning post you go.

The liberals love this stuff they will tell you sharia is good.

so all muslims are taliban or behave like taliban?

there are extremists in every religion

Tit for tat, there were moderate Muslims living in the Talliban controlled areas too. Notice how the minority of extremists ruled over the majority.

Originally posted by DutchBigBoy
The democracy in the eyes of the muslim is different then we in the west see it.
It is allready discussed in this thread
Oh Muslims, how much longer.

Definition of democracy from Oxford dictionary,
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state , typically through elected representatives:a system of parliamentary democracy
a state governed under a system of democracy:a multiparty democracy
control of an organization or group by the majority of its members:the intended extension of industrial democracy
the practice or principles of social equality:demands for greater democracy.
Definition of democracy from Dictionary.com,
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
political or social equality; democratic spirit.
the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.



Definition of republic from the Oxford dictionary,
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
Definition of republic from Dictionary.com,
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.

Yes there is a difference in the term democracy, it could a moderate or a less than moderate in the way where it is more of a socialist system of government where rights are privileges.
As for the U.S., it is not based on democracy, it is based on a republic where you have rights not privileges.
So every time a politician would say they want to bring democracy to some oppressed country, what their really saying is we want to bring in a less oppressed system to that said country.

What Egypt and the other middle east countries will have is not democracy, it will be oppression by a system that is a religious fascist system.

Originally posted by emptyOmind
have they even defined what their definition of sharia law is? because it pretty much varies A LOT

There are numerous schools of thought regarding what is and is not Sharia, with both minor and major disputes between them being common.

All you have to do is read the Qu'ran and you will see that it is what it is, an oppressive religious fascist system.

quran.com...

As translated by their very own, www.dar-us-salam.com...

And for further study to get you there quicker, the meaning of jihad according to the Qu'ran.
quran.com...

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by emptyOmind

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
reply to post by emptyOmind

 

The actual nuts and bolts in a court is all up to a jurors interpretation of scripture and other self professed prophets rantings that the judge sees fit to supply to jurors.
For sentencing go see what the Taliban did to people in their soccer stadium. Canings, mutilations, burying people then stoning them to death are all a part of a good days entertainment.
Sharia also includes women hiding their faces, no education rights, infidels being taxed and used as forced labor as a privilage for allowing them to live until such time as they convert.
Go read stories of european sharia courts recently. Knife weilding muslims walk out the door freely if the victim is an infidel is my favorite most common one. Gotta love impartiality.
Go look up the ravaged south pacific after the tsunamis where they set up sharia law. They got roving bands of sharia cops, err thugs depending on their moods and dispositions, out in the streets making sure your pants are not too tight or you sneak a hand hold in with a galpal. To the caning post you go.

The liberals love this stuff they will tell you sharia is good.

so all muslims are taliban or behave like taliban?

there are extremists in every religion

Tit for tat, there were moderate Muslims living in the Talliban controlled areas too. Notice how the minority of extremists ruled over the majority.

edit on 19-4-2011 by TinfoilTP because: (no reason given)

dude, they get controlled by the taliban because the taliban have the weapons! is it their fault that they aren't ready to die and/or they don't want their families to die? i mean seriously MSM must be your drug of choice because you sound like fox news.

Originally posted by emptyOmind
have they even defined what their definition of sharia law is? because it pretty much varies A LOT

There are numerous schools of thought regarding what is and is not Sharia, with both minor and major disputes between them being common.

In a country where 82 % of muslims support stoning people for adultery and 84 % support death penalty for apostates, guess which one will it be..

pewglobal.org...

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by emptyOmind
have they even defined what their definition of sharia law is? because it pretty much varies A LOT

There are numerous schools of thought regarding what is and is not Sharia, with both minor and major disputes between them being common.

All you have to do is read the Qu'ran and you will see that it is what it is, an oppressive religious fascist system.

quran.com...

As translated by their very own, www.dar-us-salam.com...

And for further study to get you there quicker, the meaning of jihad according to the Qu'ran.
quran.com...

you gave me a link to the entire quran, what is this did you even do any research? you inserted some links in there like you know the deal. how about give me something specific instead of a bunch of vague nonsense

Originally posted by Maslo

Originally posted by emptyOmind
have they even defined what their definition of sharia law is? because it pretty much varies A LOT

There are numerous schools of thought regarding what is and is not Sharia, with both minor and major disputes between them being common.

In a country where 82 % of muslims support stoning people for adultery and 84 % support death penalty for apostates, guess which one will it be..

pewglobal.org...

how did they get the statistics? did they do a poll? and if they did, did every single person answer? odds are the answer to that question is NO. what you have is a statistic that is either made up (did you know 50 percent of all statistics are made up?) or that is inaccurate due to the fact that the vast majority of the people didn't even participate!

come on man!

Originally posted by emptyOmind

dude, they get controlled by the taliban because the taliban have the weapons! is it their fault that they aren't ready to die and/or they don't want their families to die? i mean seriously MSM must be your drug of choice because you sound like fox news.

Oh so now they got weapons is your excuse for them?
Well, if the Muslim Brotherhood takes political control, guess who will be backing them? That's right, the guys with all the weapons, the millitary.
And we are back to square one, taliban style sharia law in Egypt with you making excuses for them.

Originally posted by emptyOmind

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by emptyOmind
have they even defined what their definition of sharia law is? because it pretty much varies A LOT

There are numerous schools of thought regarding what is and is not Sharia, with both minor and major disputes between them being common.

All you have to do is read the Qu'ran and you will see that it is what it is, an oppressive religious fascist system.

quran.com...

As translated by their very own, www.dar-us-salam.com...

And for further study to get you there quicker, the meaning of jihad according to the Qu'ran.
quran.com...

you gave me a link to the entire quran, what is this did you even do any research? you inserted some links in there like you know the deal. how about give me something specific instead of a bunch of vague nonsense

Hey, if you want to know, do your own research, don't expect it to be handed over to you on a silver platter. Get educated, see things for what they really are rather than take someone elses word for it. Do your own homework, this way you'll know for yourself.
On the other hand, with a comment such as vague nonsense, more than likely your one of those where the truth could be staring you right in the face, and you wouldn't even notice it. So never mind.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by emptyOmind

dude, they get controlled by the taliban because the taliban have the weapons! is it their fault that they aren't ready to die and/or they don't want their families to die? i mean seriously MSM must be your drug of choice because you sound like fox news.

Oh so now they got weapons is your excuse for them?
Well, if the Muslim Brotherhood takes political control, guess who will be backing them? That's right, the guys with all the weapons, the millitary.
And we are back to square one, taliban style sharia law in Egypt with you making excuses for them.

ok it's not an excuse its a fact

take yourself for example, what if you were in a similiar situation where you and your family faced persecution and/or death for standing up to your oppressors? what if they took one of your kids? or your wife? you should think about it as if you were in there shoes, have a little empathy and that might help you to better understand the situation.

and i never said i support the muslim brotherhood, that is what you assumed which is your mistake. i simply believe as dr. king stated, 'all men are created equal' and i refuse to judge anyone based on their religious beliefs

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by emptyOmind

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Originally posted by emptyOmind
have they even defined what their definition of sharia law is? because it pretty much varies A LOT

There are numerous schools of thought regarding what is and is not Sharia, with both minor and major disputes between them being common.

All you have to do is read the Qu'ran and you will see that it is what it is, an oppressive religious fascist system.

quran.com...

As translated by their very own, www.dar-us-salam.com...

And for further study to get you there quicker, the meaning of jihad according to the Qu'ran.
quran.com...

you gave me a link to the entire quran, what is this did you even do any research? you inserted some links in there like you know the deal. how about give me something specific instead of a bunch of vague nonsense

Hey, if you want to know, do your own research, don't expect it to be handed over to you on a silver platter. Get educated, see things for what they really are rather than take someone elses word for it. Do your own homework, this way you'll know for yourself.
On the other hand, with a comment such as vague nonsense, more than likely your one of those where the truth could be staring you right in the face, and you wouldn't even notice it. So never mind.

edit on 19-4-2011 by hawaii50th because: (no reason given)

well you came on the scene acting like you know the deal, why don't you fill me in if i'm so ignorant? and i said vague nonsense because you didn't show me anything as i said you just made it sound like you were making a good point but then sent me some vague links that didn't explain anything.

and one more thing, have you read the quran?

I don`t see what all the fuss is about.Ok so the msm is fascinated with the outcome of all the "revolutions" taking place.
Very few western countries, if any at all, are really concerned with the wishes of the people.
In numerous polls taken across the mid east/north africa, majority support exists for an Islamic based system of governance (eg Turkey) and law , an end to cooperation with the zionist entity, the expulsion of IMF/World scam bank, the removal of all us bases and the union of all Arab countries.

Well, apparently the US is next-
shariah4america.com...
Here we go . . .

reply to post by TinfoilTP

Oh for crying out loud, be afraid, be very afraid, don't step outside of the box or LOOK you will be stamped down by the evil forces of Islam. This site is becoming far too politically polar, and religiously polar. So many threads just trying to work various factions against each other.

The people had a right to do what they did, if in fact they did it and not our own CIA. However if these people want Sharia law, then so be it, its none of your business, if they dont, then they can ask for help and we would then be within rights to offer it.

Christians burned millions to death over the years, where is all the outrage there? In fact I dont put it past christians do murder in the name of fear and control now either. What is the difference? Different color of the same racism?