Inside info on comet Elenin (yes, you're being lied to)

I am just shocked by the fact that someone (OP) came along and said: bad things will happen, I actually know someone from NASA, and that's it. Then users throw stars and flags all over the place while the OP didn't bother to throw in a single link in. Please correct me if I am mistaken; are there any links that I might have missed? I am actually not willing to count other users' efforts here.

Some kind of presentation to your claims would be nice. Like, you said that some YouTube users had their videos down and others started injecting some disinfo videos. How about you tell us some user names for either that or that? Screenshots? Anything?

Why does ATS allow this kind of topics to even survive more than 1 hour without closing them? Doesn't that damage the image of the website severely? When I come and find someone who offered absolutely nothing but fears and void claims, and the stars and flags are all over the place and the topic is 40+ pages, wouldn't that make me think twice before visiting this place again? Shall I start a new thread now claiming that I know Obama personally and he told me that the whole ELEnin thing is a hoax? How about that? It sure will get me some stars and flags. I should give it a try.

I'm preparing a couple of thread ideas to outline things like orbital paths, gravitational influences known as Roche limits, and Lagrangian points (L-points), Hill Sphere's, and much more to put into layman terms the complex dynamics involved in celestial body movements including and nearly exclusive devoted to Trojan Satellites. Some of these terms might sound foreign but have been studied for over 100 years now, and we just in the last 30 years have better detection methods to substantiate the early raw mathematics of these studies.

Let me drop a teaser to the threads once I organize the data and find the time to construct the progression of the topics, which I think will aid in the understanding of orbital bodies not just here in our solar system, body gravitational influences go to infinity because there is no zero, there are however very calculative distances where a body's gravitational field is overcome by another gravity, like a star, or a large fictitiously dense spacecraft.

So after no future ado, one of the orbital paths of an Earth Trojan moon, near earth asteroid 3753 Cruithne.

My bad, I understand I need to do more research on posting mpeg motion files here so in embarrassment let me offer a screen capture that outlines a trojan satellite orbital dynamic, (poorly), but will have to suffice for now, things get time consuming. I may have to upload Youtube motion files to get them here, very time consuming.



The white lines indicate the distance from earth 3753 Cruithne has, though this is just an overhead image as the asteroid doesn't follow our orbital plane, it gets very complex when the viewpoint is tilted towards the plane.




The first particular thread I'm preparing is specifically about the two Trojan moons of the Saturn moon Tethys, the 8th moon out from Saturn, and its two trojan moons Calypso and Telesto. The ninth moon of Saturn, Dione, also has two trojan moons, and so far these are the only true trojan moons in our solar system discovered so far partly thanks to the NASA probe Cassini, who in fact was the first astronomer to discover the moon Tethys of Saturn. Both of these larger moon reside in the thin E ring of Saturn, largely invisible as this diagram shows.




My initial diagram I will animate to outline the Trojan moons of Tethys I'm preparing but first I need to grasp the true dynamics of what is referred to as a true descriptive Trojan moon, my understanding (I want to adhere to) so far would be to depict an early Apollo spacecraft in orbit around the moon, if it was a natural body it would be a Trojan moon, orbiting the moon, orbiting earth, orbiting the sun, orbiting the Galaxy, and so on. Interesting. (I'm not sure if galaxies orbit something larger). Everything is in motion and everything spins, outside of Absolute Zero!



Illustration of the moons is not to scale for illustration purposes, (kind of like NASA).

ok, here's a theory that just popped into my head while just finishing up reading the last 5 pages of this thread. i've read almost all of it...probably missed a few pages here and there. whatever major event or events we witness in the near future are known by the higher-ups, hence the bunkers. they are going to hide away while we lose almost the whole population of the world. why are they helping this along with cover-ups? after everyone dies but these "elite bunker folk", they will get to evolve to a god-like being once the Sun and the Earth align with the galactic plane on the winter solstice 12/21/12...DNA will change and could already be changing in all of us (for the better). about space stations being battered by "Elenin"...if anything, the debris breaking off of the comet might hit satellites or the space station when Earth directly passes through it's tail. but what i keep talking about hitting a space station is the Draconid meteor "storm" coming from the area in the sky where the Draco dragon constellation resides..."beware of the tale of the Red Dragon"...it's gonna happen in the beginning of October (8th) 2011...it should be a cool sky show with minimal damage to Earth...but the ISS could get hit with debris since they aren't protected by the Earth's atmosphere.

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I hope i see you can cumulate the data and formulate your thread; so we can blow this silliness out of the water.

The notion that threads become so popular when they are about comet elenin omg hitting ISS is just dis-heartening because it shows how many people have no idea how ridiculous this statement actually is.

Ah... what the heck.....What can i say though really its all in good fun let them fear mongers run wild if u want. Freedom of speech baby and freedom of ignorance!.

Let the fear mongers run wild. !

Thats what makes this site tick...

Originally posted by XRaDiiX
reply to post by Gerizo

 

You obviously didn't read my post. I have nothing to say to you. Read it again i guess because i said I'm not an astronomer and i said they manoeuver the ISS whenever its in threat of colliding with Debris around Earth. So how is Comet Elenin Going to hit the ISS.

Obvious Trolls Need to learn common sense.

I did read your post hence the reason I responded to you. Well I has something to say to you. I don't need to read it again, since I have the uncanny ability to retain information. I am glad that we agree that you are not an astronomer. Since we agree on that you have no way of knowing if a comet would hit the ISS or not which is why I stated that you had no idea what you were talking about. Lastly, you spelled maneuver wrong.(HINT-When its shows a red scribble underline it means you spelled it wrong.) Obviously you should learn how to spell or at the very least use the spell check feature before you start calling people trolls.

Once I get the animations up and supporting text things get much easier to grasp. There is nothing like seeing the whole annual orbits of particular bodies, in a true 3D mechanism/software visual program. One which I just became aware of and downloaded tonight, but I have a bit of extra 'requests' for the 3D software simulated renderings at the workplace all of the sudden now.

So this may take some time as I really should be working now instead of playing around with other (these) things. Sometimes I really need to just shut up, a reoccurring problem with my life so far.

I understand that ignoring 'extra requests' in this poor economic time is one reason why I wasn't one of the 25% of our global staff that was fired to meet number projections on the books, (and to pay for a new lab in one year–90 mil). So I have that going for me, so far. so far.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Mister1k

 

Oh dear.....oh dear......

I took a look at the "Dr.'s" website.....and, well..........

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Thats funny weedwhacker. Every single time I see that picture that's what I think about almost every single one of your posts.

Originally posted by Gerizo

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Mister1k

 

Oh dear.....oh dear......

I took a look at the "Dr.'s" website.....and, well..........

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bd2c6f45dfae.jpg[/atsimg]

Thats funny weedwhacker. Every single time I see that picture that's what I think about almost every single one of your posts.

Got anything else other than snark, or are you just trying to crack a joke?

Weedwhacker is not somebody to take seriously. He never has an independent thought, he only will try to debunk others independent thoughts. Not somebody you should take seriously, just an oppositional voice to things that don't fit in with his narrow view of the world.

He is the guy ages ago that would have fought tooth and nail along with the Spanish government that the earth is flat and ask you for proof it isn't, same crap, different day.

Originally posted by Helious
Weedwhacker is not somebody to take seriously. He never has an independent thought, he only will try to debunk others independent thoughts. Not somebody you should take seriously, just an oppositional voice to things that don't fit in with his narrow view of the world.

He is the guy ages ago that would have fought tooth and nail along with the Spanish government that the earth is flat and ask you for proof it isn't, same crap, different day.

edit on 1-5-2011 by Helious because: (no reason given)

I take it that you don't quite understand how flawed the flat earth analogy is.

I'll give you a moment or five to figure out why.

Originally posted by NyxOne

Originally posted by Helious
Weedwhacker is not somebody to take seriously. He never has an independent thought, he only will try to debunk others independent thoughts. Not somebody you should take seriously, just an oppositional voice to things that don't fit in with his narrow view of the world.

He is the guy ages ago that would have fought tooth and nail along with the Spanish government that the earth is flat and ask you for proof it isn't, same crap, different day.

edit on 1-5-2011 by Helious because: (no reason given)

I take it that you don't quite understand how flawed the flat earth analogy is.

I'll give you a moment or five to figure out why.

Yeah, cause I need a moment to to realize how flawed our science is? Flat earth, people burned at the stake, Earth center of the "universe" people burned at the stake. Big bang....... Well, given the head way we have made at an infant level in quantum physics, quantum entanglement and more recently the possibility we have discovered a new particle that changes physics all together.

I guess I have to mention the Sun generating particles that level all of science all together and pretty much sends everyone back to the drawing board........ Should I have to mention this? Why should I? Honestly.... We know nothing, we are baby's locked in our crib in a little room with toys we can see and try to make sense of it. We can not yet see the house nor the structure beyond, we can't comprehend the true shape and structure of the space we inhabit.

You try, in vain to assert your knowledge about these subjects but the logic fails because the same exact people like you over the history of the world have been proven to know exactly nothing. Every time man thinks he has everything figured out, the opposite happens and your left to say.... Uhhh, Idk, it's truly amazing and we will have to take a look.

The fact that anyone on earth with our knowledge could claim to adopt math to it highest form or claim to the know the mechanics and workings of ANY heavenly body is a pure narcissistic view and very dangerous to everyone else. We don't know how Quasars work, at all, the best we can say about black holes is that physics break down, we have the smallest of knowledge about the most fundamental particles in existence and don't in fact know what WE are even made up of.

All of these things breed people like you who will cite government big knowledge sources about what everything means, the same people who say that one day there was nothing but a tiny dot of hot gas and now we have the entire universe..... BOOOOOOM, suprise.

It's no surprise to me there are people like you in the world, the only surprise is that there are so many.

Originally posted by TheAlmo
Shall I start a new thread now claiming that I know Obama personally and he told me that the whole ELEnin thing is a hoax? How about that? It sure will get me some stars and flags. I should give it a try.

edit on 1-5-2011 by TheAlmo because: (no reason given)

Nah, I think you would have better luck saying Obama told you it was really an ancient space craft coming back around to survey how its human creations are doing after 12,000 years. That way Obama can get re-elected now that he killed Bin Laden and released his long form BC.

I have been looking at some of these alignment graphs and really don't see the alignment. On the graphs some of the plantets show to the side of the line. Some may think that is close enough but given the size of scale the alignment is hundres of thousands of miles off. However people still answer spam e-mails and buy up get rich scams so what do ya do.

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You obviously do not have a career utilizing math or the Scientific Process, because you have some 'special vision' that can solve the everlasting question of 'what is life', or what is matter and how does matter get mass.

Please, continue, this should be really fun.

reply to post by Gerizo


It's funny because you have no way to attack me other than a spelling error; which is actually sad. Completely avoiding the point I brought up about the ISS being able to change course to avoid objects. This is what I have to say to the comet elenin going to hit ISS bandwagon jumpers.
Pure LUNACY

Originally posted by russ1969
reply to post by jsfad

 

Back up there a minute! I looked at your first date showing a supposed affect caused by comet , earth, sun lining up. This is straight up bull. This is what you wrote, 02/12/01: C/2010 X1 aligns Earth-Sun… 7.4 Sumatra and 6.6 El Salvador next day" Go to jpl website and go to this date. I wont even bother to look at the rest of them. To me this whole statement regarding this is null and void.

I do believe that there may be an affect when they do line up. But putting bogus info Wont help the cause.

russ1969:

I was showing a mate the other day the 11th March alignment regarding the Japanese earthquake and, lo and behold, NASA have changed the orbital path of Elenin over the last 7 to 10 days odd and now it shows there was no alignment of the 11th March.

I know for a fact that there was an alignment on the 11th March on the JPL website a few weeks ago as I was showing an amateur astonomer the information so he could look into it further. It's now interesting that NASA are now "tweaking" the oribital path of Elenin so that the alignments really didn't happen at all.

I can't speak about the alignments you mentioned though, however if the 11th March alignment has now been "shifted", other alignments may have also been "adjusted".

Cheers

JS

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I think it's pretty obvious that if some parameter were shifted, it would affect the rest as well. They are sneaky, aren't they?

reply to post by Helious


You've been had by The Flat Earth Myth I see.

Pythagoras, Plato and Aristotle shake their heads at you.

reply to post by jumpspace


nice catch. this should be easily verifiable. there are plenty of videos with the jpl model in them. the subject matter is irrelevant, all that matters is that a quantifiable alteration can be identified.

i don't have an opinion on the alignment causing quakes yet. we'll see.

To those that are interested in the AstrolPatriot information and to those who think he had nothing:

Here's the mirrored Astrolpatriot video:

wn.com...

Here's NASA's imagery of the same:

www.youtube.com...

"Subject LUMI (229)" or "CL-0101229"

Have fun

Cheers

JS

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Check this thread:

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And then this thread:

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