Inside info on comet Elenin (yes, you're being lied to)

Originally posted by KingJod
Can I ask a simple question. Why is it that all the non-believers say that it will fly by like the rest? Are you guys saying there is no chance for a comet to ever hit Earth. I mean alot of you make it seem that Earth is just shielded from everything.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I think what critical thinkers are saying, is that assuming the worst all the time based on no real evidence, is paranoid and delusional.

Some act as if they wish it to be true and want it to be true so badly, they are no longer capable of rationality.

The odds are quite high that NASA is not lying to start with. Considering the number of amateur astronomers who are just as capable as those working for NASA, it would be impossible for an immanent impact to be hidden anyway.

It seems the truth here is that nobody knows at this point in time the exact course this comet will take and all this discussion is fruitless and meaningless. Certainly living in fear based on the false predictions of fake or delusional people who think they are Prophets is irrational on it's face.

Originally posted by spikey
And do the over 100 comets discovered last year, bring them in to within 43K miles?

Elenin won't be coming within 43K miles of Earth. At its closest point, it will be 34,958,870 km (21,722,435 miles) from Earth.

Yeah, never mind that all the people who aren't in NASA who are observing this object have noticed no massive deviation in the orbital path. And that the 43,000 miles 'calculation' is a crock of bull, but whatever

Where is your proof that the 43,000 mile's is a crock of bull?

no offense buddy but an a-hole can say they have a source with inside info from so and so agency, without making any actual sources avaliable or anything all your doing is just spewing bs, you should find a way to post some of this info your source has on here, maybe make a pdf out of it of something,

at that im just going to put out there im not a believer in the whole elenin is nibiru stuff or elenin is something else stuff

Yes, this is something they have have coded, ie. Deep impact, ELE. Their coding the matrix in the movies, and Love is the answer, for we're not given lower level tests in higher grades and its all, about including the entities they channel in and the negatives, its about attraction, our frequency, the amount of love on the planet has a lot to do with how much access negatives can have. ARK= Acts Of Random Kindness. In short, throw out economic and political models. This world is wrong backwards. They program War = Peace. No It doesnt. That caring and equalizing is a pink commie think to do! No its called substantive equality and love and only hellzones and winterland astrals don't equalize everyone, or expect people to pay for their own lodgins or resources on their own planet. War and Starvation along with a long host of other heartless cruelties give permissions.


Elenin and Nibiru orbits are strikingly similar

I'm even sending love to the negatives behind ELE and if they show up. They might be able to hurt your body suit, but its only a temporal. But the answer is the same, Live From The Heart, not the mind. The mind is full of programs and ai programs too, ie. your genetics and hard wiring and the paradigm around you. You're quick to react, quick to anger, quick to judge, even let in lots of their negatives in movies, the media when in the mind. Living from the heart is hard, just keep bringing yourself back when you notice arguments and discord, and keep on striving to be the SUN, to be the SUNLIGHT. The sun is unmoved, cannot be hypnotized or brainwashed, sees everything, but the coding never works for it, because it sees the illusion in all that is not Love, and keeps steadily shining its light and gives from its goodness. Be the sun, shine your light, reach your heart, be Love.

The odds are quite high that NASA is not lying to start with. Considering the number of amateur astronomers who are just as capable as those working for NASA, it would be impossible for an immanent impact to be hidden anyway.

I agree with you to an extent, but for you to say they are not lying. They would not tell the truth only because it would cause world wide chaos. If they really know we would maybe have 2 weeks to 2 months notice for a Extinction Level Event.

I read this article about Comet Elenin yesterday.

I would have posted the article here,but I don't know how to do that. I'm a newbie,so please be kind. If this article was posted elsewhere, I apologize for that.

Interesting article that also,mentions ARC. I never heard of that before. It stands for American Reassurance Communities for the elite. article here

reply to post by Gerizo


If you got this possible truth:
One day someone brings fourth evidence proving that the comet will hit in 3 months, yay you got your evidence!
3 months to do nothing. You can smile and wave when this comet comes from space to give you the divine kirby. So what was the point in "finding out before it's too late". By the time you find out, it will already be too late anyways, the system, nasa, jpl, any of that included. We are helpless against such things.

Sparking the fears of Minister Serdyukov, he says in this report, is that based upon the new orbit calculations for Comet Elenin, it appears in “all likelihood” that this celestial object is under some type of “intelligent control” and will approach our Earth “much closer” than originally thought this coming fall season.

He's a russian defence minister. does that help my credibility?

www.eutimes.net...

This thread is ridiculous! why is it when someone comes on here with evidence it will not hit, the thread all but disappears into obscurity with no flags, but some random guy comes here with nothing but "I have source" and you all jump all over it...

It just goes to show and I'm not being mean but you wonder why people laugh and call all you conspiracy people "nutjobs", this thread is an example why..

164 flags? seriously its embarrassing.

Originally posted by Ex_CT2

Originally posted by R3KR
reply to post by Ex_CT2

 

If thats the case then the space station is not the only thing that needs to be concerned. That is approaching commercial airline traffic !!!

Originally posted by R3KR
reply to post by Ex_CT2

 

If thats the case then the space station is not the only thing that needs to be concerned. That is approaching commercial airline traffic !!!

What? I think perhaps you misread. That's approx. 43,000 miles, not 43,000 feet.

Regardless, it seems to me that that's an extremely finely calculated result (0.0004617 au) for something that far away. I mean, there are a number of variables that have to be taken into account; it just seems so excessively *accurate*....

Even if its 43,000 miles. The ISS is only about 220 miles above the earth. How could it even be a threat.

Originally posted by KingJod
Can I ask a simple question. Why is it that all the non-believers say that it will fly by like the rest? Are you guys saying there is no chance for a comet to ever hit Earth. I mean alot of you make it seem that Earth is just shielded from everything.

Of course Earth could be hit by a comet. Will it be hit by THIS comet? No. After observing the comets movement for the past 4 months, it's clear it will not be a danger to Earth.

People don't seem to understand that the Earth is a very small target in a very large room. At any given time, the Earth occupies about 1,083,210,000,000 cubic kilometers of space. The inner solar system, from the orbit of Earth to the Sun, is a volume of some 14,023,808,463,186,753,882,453,650 cubic kilometers of space. The Earth is only 0.00000000000772% of that volume. That's why large asteroid or comet impacts are so rare.

Originally posted by KingJod
Where is your proof that the 43,000 mile's is a crock of bull?

right here. The orbit, fit to 1291 observations over 124 days shows the closest approach to Earth will be no closer than 0.233685410470319 AU (21,722,434.8 miles), about 500 times larger than the 43,000 mile figure.

reply to post by Scaledown


I'd certainly agree. An object that large should have grav. effects on the SS and perhaps drag a bit of atmosphere with it too?

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz

Sparking the fears of Minister Serdyukov, he says in this report, is that based upon the new orbit calculations for Comet Elenin, it appears in “all likelihood” that this celestial object is under some type of “intelligent control” and will approach our Earth “much closer” than originally thought this coming fall season.

He's a russian defence minister. does that help my credibility?

www.eutimes.net...

The source of that is Sorcha Faal, a well known source of hoaxes. That in fact would destroy your credibility.

From Leonids Elenin's himself

spaceobs.org...

Q. Does exist any danger for the Earth with the comet?

A. No, my comet will pass at distance 34 400 000 km from the Earth. For example, minimal distance to another planet of Solar System – Venus is 38 000 000 km. This distance is completely safe for us. Earth may pass through the comet tail, but this event is not dangerous also. In 1910 Earth passed through the Halley’s comet tail and nothing happened.

He is continuing to track the thing everyday...

spaceobs.org...

Also check out this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Silly, silly people.

I would just like to point out here, no one seems to remember the Shoemaker Levy comet.....at the time, the "experts" and "scientists" at NASA stated AS A FACT that it was going to "pass close to Jupiter', and as it approached, the comet broke up and hit Jupiter dead on!

Anyone remember this? I sure do.

Problem here is, mainstream science refuses to acknowledge the electrical factors in all this. The Sun is NOT a huge ball of nuclear fusion, all observations prove that wrong, starting with the corona temperature that INCREASES as it gets further away. A ball of "fusion" could not do that, temperatures obviously would drop moving away, right? Also, the acceleration of charged particles in the "solar wind" as they move away from the Sun. What is accelerating them? And since when is a flow of charged particles NOT known as an electric current? I could go on and on.

Also, the Deep Impact probe proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the "dirty snowball" theory is WRONG. A comet is NOT a ball of ice. This calls into question, what is the tail, if it is not the ice sublimating as it gets nearer the Sun? Think of the Earth's magnetosphere, a comet tail is the same thing on a smaller scale, indicating electricity.

So what, you ask? Well, this is a long period comet. It is approaching from far further away than any comet that has been seen in human history, as far as we know. This means it is coming from an area of extreme negative charge. The reason comets glow, form a coma and a tail, is the eccentric orbit they are on. The planets are all in steady orbits, maintaining the same charge as they orbit. Comets are not. There's the rub.

It has been observed, the Sun will tend to "flare" out at a comet as it approaches. Astronomers are baffled by this, as usual. When this highly negatively charged body approaches, the positive anode which is the Sun will tend to basically arc towards it, in effect shooting giant bolts of lightning, on a scale you cannot imagine. It has been observed to happen before.

This comet has been building up charge for over 3000 years. That's a lot more than Halley's comet, or any other one seen in our lifetimes. Each time it aligns with any of the planets and the Sun, well, arcs tend to happen. Last alignment was the same day as the Japan earthquake. What if it comes real close to the Earth, and then the Sun "flares" out at it? It won't be pretty. We are talking end of the world basically. There does not need to be any impact.

The fact that the media is not mentioning the comet AT ALL should worry you. Why are they silent on it? Why would NASA be keeping mum on the whole thing? Even without taking the electrical factors into account, which they don't, do you really think they would say anything if they thought there was even a chance of it impacting the Earth? Of course not. It would help nothing, merely cause major panic. All the sheeple running around like chickens with their heads cut off would just cause chaos, and make NO difference. Might as well keep mum about it, and see what happens. If it hits, we ALL die. If not, they can spin it any way they like after the fact. If you think there will be anyone left at NASA to yell at, or anyone to yell at them, you are wrong. DUH.

Rockefellers heading to Tibet, Chinese and Russians building hundreds of underground bases on rush schedules, well these all point at SOMETHING wicked this way comes. What can we do about it? NOTHING.

The guy who said he's gonna start drinking Nov 1st is the only one making any sense here. Nothing else will make any difference, at least he can go out drunk and happy.

reply to post by galadofwarthethird


Here's a song all about the lead up to yours...

Now warning lights are flashing down at Quality Control
Somebody threw a spanner, they threw him in the hole
There's rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
Somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down

There's a meeting in the boardroom, they're trying to trace the smell
There's a leakin' in the washroom, there's a sneakin' personnel
Somewhere in the corridors someone was heard to sneeze
Goodness me, could this be industrial disease ?'

Caretaker was crucified for sleeping at his post
Refusing to be pacified, it's him they blame the most
Watchdog's got rabies, the foreman got the fleas
Everyone's concerned about industrial disease

There's panic on the switchboard, tongue is in knots
Some come out in sympathy, some come out in spots
Some blame the management, some the employees
Everybody knows it's the industrial disease

Yeah, now the work force is disgusted down tools and walks
Innocence is injured, experience just talks
Everyone seeks damages and everyone agrees
That these are classic symptoms of a monetary squeeze

On ITV and BBC they talk about the curse
Philosophy is useless, theology is worse
History boils over, there's an Economics freeze
Sociologists invent words that mean industrial disease

Doctor Parkinson declared, "I'm not surprised to see you here
You've got smokers cough from smoking
Brewer's droop from drinking beer
I don't know how you came to get the Bette Davis wheeze
But worst of all young man you've got industrial disease"

He wrote me a prescription he said, "You are depressed
I'm glad you came to see me to get this off your chest
Come back and see me later, next patient please
Send in another victim of industrial disease"

And I go down to speaker's corner, I'm a thunderstruck
They got free speech, tourists, police in trucks
Two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong
There's a protest singer, he's singing a protest song, he says

They wanna have a war to keep their factories
They wanna have a war to keep us on our knees
They wanna have a war to stop us buying Japanese
They wanna have a war to stop industrial disease

They're pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
They wanna sap your energy, incarcerate your mind
Give you Rule Brittania, gassy beer, page three
Two weeks in Espania and Sunday striptease

Meanwhile the first Jesus says, "I'll cure it soon
Abolish Monday mornings and Friday afternoons"
The other one's out on hunger strike, he's dying by degrees
How come Jesus gets industrial disease?

This song, Written over 20 years ago... is far too prophetic for my blood...

Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by KingJod
Can I ask a simple question. Why is it that all the non-believers say that it will fly by like the rest? Are you guys saying there is no chance for a comet to ever hit Earth. I mean alot of you make it seem that Earth is just shielded from everything.

The odds are quite high that NASA is not lying to start with. Considering the number of amateur astronomers who are just as capable as those working for NASA, it would be impossible for an immanent impact to be hidden anyway.

Sorry, I just have to disagree with you on this. The odds of NASA lying are enormous. Just look for how long they had the space monopoly. Even now, foreign countries are starting to develop their space program, but NASA has so much advance.

In other words, the odds are that, with all of their information, they are lying to us to some degree.

Originally posted by Logman
reply to post by phantomjack

 

So 1 through 5, all normal things.

6. Elenin is on an elliptical orbit which brings it to earth every ~3600 years. FACT

Not true. It's been calcuated to over 10,000 years. So WRONG.

7. World wide earth events have occurred on these 3600 year intervals, including the great flood, the loss of atlantis, the appearance of the Mayan civilization, etc. These events are documented in the bible, the Kolbrin bible, and various other ancient documents

Err, okay, what worldwide catastrophie happened in 1589 BC? Nothing. Next please.

The rest of your post was standard Kool-aid drinking. Fun to read that someone can be so scared of something that doesn't exist. Do you believe in the Yeti, Santa, Shoe-fixing eleves and the Easter Bunny? Might as well go all in, son.

edit on 15-4-2011 by Logman because: yes, I meant BC

Oh, I dont know. Perhaps it was MOSES and the Plagues of Egypt? + or - 100 years or so? Exodus?