Here is proof that Obama has not released his long form birth certificate yet

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Seems unbelievable doesn't it - but true nethertheless.

Exactly the same for every previous POTUS - so why single out Obama? Simply because he is black!

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Seems unbelievable doesn't it - but true nethertheless.

Exactly the same for every previous POTUS - so why single out Obama? Simply because he is black!

Wish I had a dollar for every time you pulled the BS race card..
I'd retire..

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Seems unbelievable doesn't it - but true nethertheless.

Exactly the same for every previous POTUS - so why single out Obama? Simply because he is black!

Um....lets see...............everything about him is fraudulent - every single record that would indicate his nationality has been sealed - his autobiography was written and invented by marxist terrorist revolutionary Bill Ayres - who also started his Political carreer.

Everyone who helped him get into the whithouse was either a radical marxist, revolutionary, socialist, Islamicist crook or America hater!

He spent allof his formativeyears outside mainland USA being raised as an Indonesian Muslim, learning the Koran by rote in Arabic - farmed out to communist granparents and mentored by a communist sex pervert mentor.

You think people might be entitled to question as to who is really is and where his loyalties might lie ....hmmmmmm!!!

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
every single record that would indicate his nationality has been sealed

Yet another birther lie - why do you ignore his birth certificate? And exactly the same "record sealing" happened to all previous Presidents, yet you just claim Obama did it.

being raised as an Indonesian Muslim, learning the Koran by rote in Arabic - farmed out to communist granparents and mentored by a communist sex pervert mentor.

And the birther lies now get even sillier - when will the [snip] birthers stop?

reply to post by dereks

Yet another birther lie - why do you ignore his birth certificate?

Umm, because it does not prove he was born in the US..
You know this as fact..
Why carry on???

Originally posted by backinblack
Umm, because it does not prove he was born in the US..

Yes it does - you are unable to show it does not, so you continue with birther lies!

and of course you ignore the fact that Obama's other records were sealed exactly the same as all previous POTUS's, why is that?

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by dereks

 

Yet another birther lie - why do you ignore his birth certificate?

Umm, because it does not prove he was born in the US..
You know this as fact..
Why carry on???

You cannot back this "fact" up in the other thread I asked you to back it up in so you come over here and repeating while continuing to deflect over there? Just saying things are facts do not make them facts. What you are pushing is a long debunked birther lie that anyone anywhere could just get a birth certificate from Hawaii that says you were born in Hawaii. You cannot back this claim up. You just can't do it. Please stop saying things you cannot back up. You do want to be taken seriously, don't you?

Originally posted by ThaLoccster
reply to post by dbriefed

 

Plenty of people believe that regardless of his status he is unfit and unqualified, thats an entirely different thread though.

But on the birther topic. What makes him unqualified? If he were born in a foreign country to American parents does that make him qualified? Is John McCain, being born in a foreign country, qualified? If he were born in another country, and his mother was American but his father wasn't, would that make him unqualified? How about under the same circumstances, but born in America?

Also, do you seriously not believe that a person who runs for President of the United States is not thoroughly vetted? Do you think they allow someone to become President, then casually state that "we better learn something about this guy now that he is President"?

I can't say for sure, but I'm convinced nonetheless that anyone running for President is thoroughly investigated and vetted before becoming President. You can't cheat on a test in 7th grade without that being dug up, but a Kendonesian black man can become President of the US?

It doesn't seem plausible, nor does any of the birther argument.

edit on 4/8/2011 by ThaLoccster because: (no reason given)

Makes sense. To get a passport I had to use my birth certificate. To get into various govt departments to do contract work I needed a birth certificate and a security clearance.

It goes to show that to get a job in the senate you would need to prove citizenship... Not to mention running for president. I'm certain he needed to prove citizenship multiple times growing up as he traveled internationally.

Also a ssn requires live birth certificate. A copy would be on file in many places. This whole notion is silly and detracts from real issues we need to face as the human race.

reply to post by JohhnyBGood


So why didn't the republicans expose him during the election? Bush senior used to run the CIA and Bush junior was the president. Are you saying they didn't know? Or are you saying it's some twisted scheme to fool really smart people?

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
every single record that would indicate his nationality has been sealed

Yet another birther lie - why do you ignore his birth certificate? And exactly the same "record sealing" happened to all previous Presidents, yet you just claim Obama did it.

being raised as an Indonesian Muslim, learning the Koran by rote in Arabic - farmed out to communist granparents and mentored by a communist sex pervert mentor.

And the birther lies now get even sillier - when will the racist birthers stop?

His Muslim upbringing (and by birth) is a matter of record - other presidents did not have their records sealed.

Barry or whatever his real name is has got a lotof explaining to do ........guess what Trump is going to ferret it out and he has the clout to make it STICK!

1) Long form Birth certificate
2) Marriage license between Obama's father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) -- not found, not released
3) Obama's baptism records -- sealed
4) Obama's adoption records -- sealed
5) Records of Obama's and his mother's reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia -- not found, not released
6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records -- not found, not released
7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) -- not released
8) Punahou School financial aid or school records -- not released
9) Occidental College financial aid records -- not released. (These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)
10) Columbia College records -- not released
11) Columbia senior thesis -- not released
12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)
13) Obama's law client list -- sealed
14) Obama's files from career as an Illinois State Senator -- sealed
15) Obama's record with Illinois State Bar Association -- sealed
16) Obama's medical records -- not released
17) Obama's passport records -- not released

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard
reply to post by JohhnyBGood

 

So why didn't the republicans expose him during the election? Bush senior used to run the CIA and Bush junior was the president. Are you saying they didn't know? Or are you saying it's some twisted scheme to fool really smart people?

Because the two NWO factions made a deal - it was supposed to be Hillary, but they opted for Obama groomed it seems as the Mahdi to apeal to the Islamic world - no coincidence that Sorros and Obamas fingerprints are all over the 'revolutions' in the Arab world.

Why - who knows, maybe they were faced with a Blackjack scenario from another faction (Sino/Soviet) - so Obongo was inserted to financially collapse the US instead -being inelligible is the gaurantee that either side can cancell the deal at any time - and that is why the media treats this as a 'hands off' issue.

Maybe Trump didnt read the script - maybe he is part of the cancellation process - we shall soon see!

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard


Reason it out. The GOP had the reigns of power. The bush family is tightly connected with us secret svcs(CIA, NSA etc). They would have access to the supposed "intelligence" that Obama isn't a citizen. Why didn't they expose him and get the presidency?

Do you see Obama investigating Bush administration crimes? That should answer your question as to why Bush family isn't going after him.

reply to post by Sinnthia

You cannot back this "fact" up in the other thread I asked you to back it up in so you come over here and repeating while continuing to deflect over there? Just saying things are facts do not make them facts. What you are pushing is a long debunked birther lie that anyone anywhere could just get a birth certificate from Hawaii that says you were born in Hawaii. You cannot back this claim up. You just can't do it. Please stop saying things you cannot back up. You do want to be taken seriously, don't you?

So you tell me, how did home birthers get a BC back then ?

I also notice quite a few days between birth and his supposed BC..
Why is that if he was born in a hospital ??

Originally posted by Mike.Ockizard


So, they let a known foreigner become president???? Who's agenda benefits from that???? Or did they do that just to f with our heads???

Come on people. The real diversion from what's really going on is the delusion that he's not a citizen.

I'm going to assume the best and assume you are just new to this whole NWO thing so I will answer your question nicely. The 'global elite' or as I like to call them the parasitic central bankers ARE foreigners, so why wouldn't they want a foreigner who is in favor of ushering in a new world order?

I just heard on the radio that it has been shown that
his SIN belonged to someone else


something to do with this I guess

WND has further confirmed that the Social Security number in question links to Obama in the online records maintained by the Selective Service System. Inserting the Social Security number, his birth date and his last name produces a valid Selective Service number.

To verify the number was issued by the Social Security Administration for applicants in Connecticut, Daniels used a Social Security number verification database. She found that the numbers immediately before and immediately after Obama’s were issued to Connecticut applicants between the years 1977 and 1979.

“There is obviously a case of fraud going on here,” Daniels maintained. “In 15 years of having a private investigator’s license in Ohio, I’ve never seen the Social Security Administration make a mistake of issuing a Connecticut Social Security number to a person who lived in Hawaii. There is no family connection that would appear to explain the anomaly.”

Does the Social Security Administration ever re-issue Social Security numbers?

“Never,” Daniels said. “It’s against the law for a person to have a re-issued or second Social Security number issued.”

Daniels said she is “staking my reputation on a conclusion that Obama’s use of this Social Security number is fraudulent.”

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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by filosophia

 

A lot of people already know there is a long form B.C. that's not being shown but a lot of other people also claim that Obama already showed the birth certificate, well this proves there is another version that is not being released.

If you are saying there is a long form BC on record in Hawaii...then you are admitting that he was born there.

And so.....what's your point?

I never said he wasn't born here, sorry I don't fit in your black and white mold of the world. I look at the facts, and the fact is the court is blocking the real birth certificate from the public, that alone implies that

1. The short form birth certificate is not the real one, this was also parroted by Factcheck.org, which is a subsidy of the Annenberg foundation which Obama was a chairman on.
2. The real birth certificate (IF IT EXISTS), is not being released to the public.

Remember that just because the court says some guy can't see the document, doesn't mean the document really exists. All we know is that the man is not allowed to see the document. That alone would indicate that the document probably DOESN'T exist.

But go ahead and believe I'm just some redneck republican who voted for Bush twice, if it's easier for you that way.

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
other presidents did not have their records sealed.

Then link us to all the previous POTUS's records - if you are unable to it is just another birher lie!

guess what Trump is going to ferret it out and he has the clout to make it STICK!

Just how do you think Trump will get access to someones private records?


So show us all those records from the previous POTUS's....

Originally posted by aptness
Care to cite the law that requires any President, or even President-elect, to show his “long form” birth certificate to the public?

Constitution of the United States.

Originally posted by dereks


It has been presented, but racist birthers refuse to accept reality.

Yet another obvious disinformation campaign lie, you completely ignore the fact that this thread PROVES the real one was not presented, yet, you continue on with your delusions without even reading the thread evidence.
This is an example of completely ignoring the truth, which means I can completely ignore whatever you say in good conscience because I have proved time and again that your statements are not only false but a vicious lie. And since you harp on the notion of "racist" it must simply be a psychological evaluation of your own mind.

to those who think that candidates aren't groomed fro a very early age:
note the kennedies

also the bankers got the fed in in 1913
with today in mind
and Obama is the best investment in a president that they have ever made.

so pulease.