Israeli schoolbus hit with anti-tank weapon fired from Gaza, critically wounding teen

Been my kid wounded on that bus, I'd break out my .338 Lapua, choose some stations near the wall, and get some serious payback.

I'm a Leviticus-type mindset. Lots and lots of revenge and payback. Not an eye for an eye, but entire torsos for an eye. Lots of torsos.

Stolen land?

Nope, it was won in conquest after being attacked.

Besides, I wouldn't give a tinker's damn over the petty arguments of who works for who, who started what, who feels mistreated, or which nebulous new world order manifestation that some clowns seem to think are the plotting, evil, perfect situational engineer boogey-men and always seem from a dark, deep distance, and always without a mistake in planning or execution - pulled the trigger.

If it were one of mine who'd been hit, I'd have my revenge. Without satisfaction, I'd be accurate, deliberate, careful, ruthless, and work my choices of positions like a spider. With unending patience, and calm execution.

Until I waded ankle deep in my revenge.

You guys argue the boogey-men, the puppet masters, the misguided organizations, and the mad men.

And while you would argue, I'd be whittling down the numbers.

I'll jump in on this ...... as late as I might be.

In My (not-so) humble opinion:


1. the WHOLE thing was staged! YES, staged !!!

2. there was NO real attack!

3. there were NO people on "the bus"!

3. the msm has produced a "hollywood" "SHOCKER" amidst all the other goings on in the region!

4. mossad decided NOT to sacrifice any kids (this time)! (except during the "retaliations").

5. Hammas (and maybe even the PLO) A-R-E products of Mossad/CIA/MI6 !!!!!!!!


the articles give the whole thing away .... I'm not as dumb as I look.

Israel Insider and Agence France Presse are the Foxes in the Henhouse on this one!

One or more terrorists fired a powerful anti-tank weapon at a bus carrying Israeli children home from school, injuring several students, one critically.

BRILLIANT observation !!!! what else could it be ... less than one maybe ?
or a "not powerful" weapon ?

Parents hearing of the attack were prevented by police from reaching the bus.

....keeps the "witness list" to a minimum !!!


and Agence France Presse:

The school bus attack, which was seen by Israel as a worrying escalation, was also condemned by the United States.

"We condemn the attack on innocent civilians in southern Israel in the strongest possible terms," State Department spokesman Mark Toner said.

NO KIDDING !!

does that mean the U.S. will enforce a "no-fly" zone here too ???

Television footage showed the yellow bus with the back end badly damaged and the windscreen blown out. A small teddy bear lay on the ground among shards of glass and pools of blood.

The bus had just finished dropping off dozens of youngsters.

was the teddy bear blood soaked too ???

good thing "dozens of youngsters" just got off !!!!


I see no proof at all here ...... its all a put-on.

too easy for the local msm to invent any story they want to, especially by "self-proclamation" !!!

and i'm surprised that no one has referred to FOX News for the "rarely balanced" point of view !!!!

Proto is right again !

ALL the sources are "bunk" as far as i'm concerned.

I would also think that with a weak story like this is, an OP should be attempting to D-I-S-P-E-L-L the story, not look for excuses to bomb away another neighborhood somewhere !

I also see NO MENTION of the BUS DRIVER !!!!!!****/////????

the msm A-L-W-A-Y-S gives the condition of the driver in accidents !!!!!!

with the front windshield being completely blown out, any idiot would have to report the driver's condition !


and with the track record of Mossad in situations like this one, I AM VERY VERY SUSPICIOUS.

conspiracies are running rampid....

I still say H-O-L-L-Y-W-O-O-D

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


i thought it was about denying ignorance.

not promoting a conspiracy where there is none.

think what you want, tho.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

So you don't have any evidence either as to who carried out these attacks?

Me I like the Mossad for it.

But do you have any proof that Mossad did it ? lots of talk being thrown around but no actual proof,
Yes Israel may have had false flags in the past,but does that mean every attack on Israel is the work of Mossad?

Originally posted by xuenchen
I also see NO MENTION of the BUS DRIVER !!!!!!****/////????

the msm A-L-W-A-Y-S gives the condition of the driver in accidents !!!!!!

with the front windshield being completely blown out, any idiot would have to report the driver's condition !


and with the track record of Mossad in situations like this one, I AM VERY VERY SUSPICIOUS.

conspiracies are running rampid....

I still say H-O-L-L-Y-W-O-O-D

No mention...no mention...must be mossad's false flag.
Jeeezz, what's wrong with people in this forum?

"The anti-tank missile that Hamas fired into southern Israel yesterday and that hit a school bus near Nahal Oz kibbutz, injuring both the driver and a 16 year-old boy, was a Russian-made Kornet, Just Journalism has learnt”

justjournalism.com...

First on google's search result.

reply to post by gravitational



are we touchy today ... feeling a bit nervie ?

this shocking revalation was not part of the OP links.....

I missed it my fault.....


still no-go however......

[color=tan]the article CLEARly states that Russia has denied selling those rockets ... they never lie.

the article is just another msm bait hook.


I need to see P-R-O-O-F ....... not S-P-E-C-U-L-A-T-I-O-N

I require credible sources like the Chicago Tribune etc with no referrals to self-proclaimed assumptions please.

reply to post by xuenchen


They never lie...???
Where and when is your next standup comedy show? I need a good laugh.

reply to post by xuenchen


D post. sorry.

All I can say is I hope Hammas got a reciept for these 'Hi Tech' weapons they are supposed to have got from various sources because none of them appear to work very well.

I'd be wanting my money back.

So, the articles I could find state it was an anti-tank missle or mortar that hit the bus. Obviously the bus is intact except for the windows so this wasn't a very effective weapon for Hamas to use was it? What happened to that shield they were just bragging about for knocking rockets out of the sky? It failed this time, wasn't active, or..?
And as best as I can tell, they are claiming there was only one child on the bus and was critically injured. Why would a terrorist that was targeting a bus of children, wait until the bus was all but empty? What about the bus driver?
Then, the immediate response from the IDF results in at least 5 dead in Gaza. Before they would even of had time for an investigation into who was responsible, they already had some targets picked out...

Yeah, you guys are right. Proto is wrong, this doesn't look like a FF or self inflicted wound at all.

This is all just too much. I mean, Israel would never do something like bomb a school bus would they? That's crossing the line as far as Israel is concerned. I read an article in which they stated as much. Wait a minute, what's this? It must be propaganda of some sort.

Nabatiyeh (school bus) Massacre: 21/03/1994(Lebanon): The Israeli warplanes targeted school bus ful of puiples 4 childs were killed,10(child) Injured.

Here are two videos of the school bus after the fact. In one of the videos I believe you can actually see the shooter! Or was it a photographer with a really long lens? Remember how everyone said that the cameras in the collateral murder videos were actually rpg's? Well this time you'll see it's the other way around. That rpg is actually a camera here folks. Why else would the IDF be walking around so casually?

The one video shows a stuffed animal at the door step of the bus. I saw a photo of a pristine stuffed animal in the windshield as well. Are these props? I don't know.






At 18 seconds in the second video you can see the other stuffed animal that I seen. It's in the windshield's left pane area. For getting blown up with an anti tank weapon, it landed in such a way as to present everyone with a kodak moment!

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

i thought it was about denying ignorance.

not promoting a conspiracy where there is none.

think what you want, tho.

That's highly assumptive and frankly disappointingly par for the course when it comes to the infected thinking of many individuals frightened and intimidated into daring not question certain parties.

Fiery, angry epitaphs and even overly verbose soliloquies from a psychological standpoint of the inner workings of child killers who quite hypocritically have overlooked that the U.S. and Israeli Military routinely kill children with the use of stand off and attack weapons.

Collateral damage they tell us, entirely excusable, tragic but the fog of war, and even many who will go so far as to say well, it was the victim’s families fault they were being used as human shields.

So the psychology of the ‘child killer’ is a bit more complex and a lot more prevalent in our mainstream society, particularly among the warmongering xenophobic crowd. As many are all too willing to turn a blind eye to it because it is carried out in the name of God, country and king?

Displaying all the while our governments, specifically those of the United States and Israel participate without qualms in child murder all the time, with no angry denunciation for the wars or those killing scores of children yearly.

You see that’s alright because they weren’t deliberately targeted, it was just an ‘accident’.

We sure do excuse a lot of accidents from governments that would best be described as Murder Inc, in fact we spend so much time convincing ourselves for the sake of our own hypocrisy that our governments employed in fulltime systematic murder of ‘undesirable’ elements only kill children by ‘accident’, that many of us are quite incapable of realizing that no it’s no accident, they know kids are there and in harms way, and if they are capable of killing the other guy’s child to further their cause, they are capable of killing our own, they often do in fact, they are called our own soldiers.

Often young and naïve, plucked right out of high school and placed into harms way, not old enough to drink, but old enough to die for country, and old enough to kill for country.

Countries that conspire to commit wars for reasons seldom admitted or divulged.

Oh yeah no weapons of mass destruction that was an accident too.

Hypocrites!

The truth is you have done no real world investigation to state there was no conspiracy, it’s only the opinion of someone afraid to face the truth about the nature of our government and systems, cowardly falling into line and toeing the party line.

Could there be a false flag conspiracy here? It’s entirely possible we have learned how this story has been written entirely as a propaganda piece.

Israel has certainly carried them out before, and the naysayers, and the chest beaters, and brow beaters really add nothing of honest intellectual discourse to threads like this.

Just their hypocritical dishonesty heaped up so high you have to wear shorts the manure is so deep.

The good news is that people like me, and the other concerned members who honestly investigate these things and aren’t afraid to face the hard problems that confront us in this world won’t ever be dissuaded by such thinkers.

There is an old saying…

“I think thou does protest to much”.

reply to post by jackflap


good insight......

I re-affirm ..... there was no "attack", no one was hurt (except during the retaliations).

its amateur night at the dixie bar and grill ..........


and the picture of "the rocket" from "the wire" looks like it should have turned that bus into a scrap pile !

justjournalism.com...

Combat history

During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Kornets were used by some groups of Iraqi special forces to attack American armoured vehicles, damaging at least two Abrams tanks and one Bradley armored troop carrier in the opening week of the war.[11]

The second verified episode of Kornet ATGM in combat use occurred during the 2006 Lebanon War, where the missiles, reportedly supplied by Syria, were successfully used by Hezbollah fighters to destroy up to two Israeli Merkava tanks

en.wikipedia.org...


the bus looks more like a hand grenade hit it .... it was good target practice.

I learned years ago that intellectual discourse is just another word for BS. BS is a means to contrive wild suppositions of mysterious powers that control things from a distance, and have the unique ability among mankind to never make a mistake, never be directly detected, move people and objects at will precisely where they need to be to stage an event of perfect psychological displacement.

BS.

Such all-powerful, all-knowing omnipotence simply do not exist.

I'm a simple man with simple motivations, but through my simplistic approach, I can get more done, quicker, more efficiently, and in less time than it takes others to type their conspiracy BS.

If you take potshots at my house with a .22 rifle, I'll demand you stop on your own, or I'll take measures to stop you. My family is at risk and that risk is not negotiable.

You continue to ignore my warnings, and it just so happens that I'm better armed and have a determined mind set necessary to stop the attacks.

So after repeated warnings to stop your blind shooting at my house, I blow ten one-half inch holes right through your house, and in the process kill one or more of yours.

On whose head does that blood lie?

Not mine.

And you shoot again, I'll level your structure to the foundation.

Now on whose head will that blood lie?

Not mine.

Simple problem, simple solution, and no arguing, no discourse, no repeats.

Life isn't hard once you get past the BS blame game.

reply to post by FarArcher


So you are pretty much telling me with your posts is that if someone had wronged you that you would become a terrorist? Nice to know..... This kind of attitude goes far into showing what actually is going wrong, I'm not knocking you or anything but this is the reality of the situation.....

reply to post by xuenchen


Oh my, the terrorists sympathizers posts are getting more and more moronic by the minute.

Some of you all of a sudden appear to be a weaponry experts.
Do you know how a shaped charge works, have you ever seen a 'liner'?
Have you ever seen what a 60 ton tank looks like after been hit by such a weapon, from the outside and from the inside? Have you seen the bodies inside?
Ever seen a Metis in action, RPG 29 or Kornet? I know the answer – ZERO.
And no, watching a youtube video is not it.

To the poster that asked why wasn't the missile / rocket intercepted:
Iron dome only works against sts rockets, not mortars.
Iron fist is intended to intercept AT missiles, and is only equipped on tanks.

You already proved to be very uneducated in History, don't pretend to be military experts.

reply to post by gravitational


The question(s) might be whether you have, but that's besides the point.

Whether its a Lebanese School Bus being hit by an Israeli Jet or a Israeli School Bus being hit by the Mossad, Settlers or Hamas you would think it would be an equal tragedy as far as the children being hurt.

One poster to this page who claims to be a former member of the US Military says he would hunt down who ever would hurt his child on a school bus, yet had no trouble working for an organization that has countless thousands of murdered children's blood on their hands.

Children killed in Gaza are Human Shields being used by evil adults, Israel is not to blame.

Children hurt in Occupied Southern Israel are victims of terrorists!

The dual standards some employ make their emotional outrage rather meaningless to say the least.

I feel sorry for every child who is the victim of institutionalized violence.

Evidently feeling sorry for some children hurt by insitutiontionalized violence makes you a terrorist sympathizer!

Considering Israel was born through Terrorist Organizations and introduced the concept to the region, it would seem to me the pro-Zionists are very much Terrorist Sympathizers.

reply to post by jheated5

Tactics. Flanking is a tactic. Encirclement is a tactic. Ambush is a tactic.

Tactics are merely methods to get at your enemy and destroy him.

All tactics are designed to place your opponent on the horns of dilemma - or - place your enemy in a state of extreme, immediate, psychological dislocation.

Terrorism is just another set of tactics - indirect tactics to be specific - and they are as numerous as there are stars in the sky.

Social absolutes. When you positively, absolutely KNOW that I will respond to threats or acts of violence with ruthless, overwhelming destruction in turn, then what happens to you - is UP to you.

You leave me the hell alone, and you'll live much, much longer than if you don't. You don't like the idea of me striking from anywhere, anytime, with any means of your destruction - then leave me be.

Since on numerous occasions have used ruthless, non-UN-approved tactics to strike terror in the hearts of my opponents - placing them at extreme psychological stress - and thus doubling my effectiveness - this striking of terror in the hearts of your opponent is a sound military principle that has been practices since men organized to fight.

Me a terrorist?

Only to my enemies.

Reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

No conspiracy here. If there were I would be the 1st to pipe up. I know of people personally affected by this and some of the comments here have sickened me to the core! Do you think israelis are stupid? Or that they would endanger their/our kids just to pull the trigger on gaza and further the danger? If you really think that then you are a moron, and a hypocrite who uses ostentatious vocab to vent their bias and look "right on". On this you are soo very wrong PT...


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