Please take this advice: Be careful what you tell others.

Originally posted by MidnightTide
Always said that if TSHTF, it is best to get away from people - hide out until the "herd" thins a bit....I am quite sure you know what I mean.

I don't let anyone know about my prepping, and I don't try to inform people on issues at hand - the brainwashing of the public by the elite has been very successful. You can see things starting to fall apart, but for the most part people don't see it, they won't see it till it hits them in the face.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
When you order your big bulk package of 6 month or over survival goodies (dehydrated foods etc) the govt. will know you have them. Then they will take your name from a database and come get what you got for the good of the many. This is classic Obama/socialist agenda. Do you think they don't have this all factored in?

I don't plan on hanging out in my main residence when crap hits the fan....I will be getting away from urban areas....also, I know that the government is aware who visits sites like these.

edit on 7-4-2011 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)

Personally I could give 2 shakes a rat's flea bitten a$$ on who visits sites like these. TPT_B and the watchers are also being watched, always have been. If someone wants to get you, they eventually will. Life is too short to be worrying about TPT_B. When I became a freemason I heard so many stories about recon missions on people. Just stay in your lane and ride steady I say. The radar only picks up anomalies!

If and a big if, society collapses and food resources are used up, sadly i know for sure they would resort to cannibalism not all but when your kids are starving and dying before your eyes i think more then just your bunker is at risk. I have yet to see a good movie about this. I agree never tell what you might have it's smart thing OP thanks.

Here's a song related to this topic, kinda prophetic. Lyrics on screen for people who can't follow it.


released 13 August 2010

Iron Maiden - When The Wild Wind Blows

S & F for you OP!!
I think companies ask WAY too much personal info just for a job application. I try not to give much info out re myself. Here's a question, hope I'm not giving to much info but I'm trying to learn as much as I can...
I'm pretty much on my own, family & friends too far away (they won't be prepared)...just me & my animals
(which have crates)...How can a person find a save place to stash stuff if you don't own any property? Should I be looking for a cave? I wish there was a place for some of us who are alone, especially women, to be able to hook up with a couple of trust worthy people...I'm outdoors type, fish, garden, sheep, & etc. Thank you all!

Ektar

Great post, S+F. And it is amazing how much people (including me from time to time) talk, especially about things that they shouldn't.

For all things survival, I am bumping this thread.
Seems that more people should read through it.
There's a ton of good advice in these pages.



Please people, for survivals sake...mind your own business.
No one needs to know.



The world doesn't need to know what you have stashed...
Because they will do something about it.

Back in the old days, I smoked expensive cigarettes. I would go to parties, and everyone would bum a smoke off Tovenar. So I would get an empty pack of generic "Cheepo" brand cigarettes, and put 3 or 4 'goldens' in the back of it, as many as I'd need for that night's party. then I'd fill the pack back up with generic cheepo smokes. Nobody bummed more than one cigarette from me. And yet I got what I wanted.

True story.

One of the ways you can save yourself is by how you "frame" your activities.

I do a lot of experimenting in my garage and back yard. Naturally my poker buddies wonder what the project is when they come over before poker night begins. I have learned to frame my work with some keywords that make their eyes glaze over.

Bug out equipment is "camping gear."

All long guns are for "deer season." Short guns are for "varmint control, out at the farm."

All food storage equipment is for "preserving the products of our gardening hobby."

building a fallout shelter in the spare room was "chasing down that slab leak" last summer.

The DX equipment was "helping junior earn his radio merit badge"


So last winter, I'm at the restaurant supply wholesaler. I am asking if they have rodent-proof, airtight canisters, that will weigh less than 40 lbs. fully loaded. The salesman goes, "What does anyone who don't have a restaurant want somethin' like that for?" And I just looked him in the eye and I says, "So we can have food storage at the deer lease, without rats getting into it."

"Oh yeah," he says; "of course. Shoulda thought of that."

Also last winter, I was having a second heating system installed in our country house; In addition to the gas/electric central air system, half the house got an lpg system. My friend Dale asks why I would pay for a second system when I already have one. I explain that when we are away for the winter, we have the caretaker shut the utilities off at the property line; but I want the bedroom so I can heat it if we show u late at night and want to warm the house. Dale seemed to believe it.

Again, let your explanation fit in with their view of "normal," and they won't put you in the survival category. So it's mission accomplished.

Originally posted by Onet Wosix
Good advice there.

I bet even people who are 'really friendly ' now, would look at you in a different way, if they haven't eaten for 3 days, and know you have a decent stockpile.

I have some things in readiness that I don't tell anyone about.

Good post dude.

I think you have missed the point entirely.
THAT you are admitting to having ANYTHING that you do not want to tell anyone about is all I need to know
when TSHTF.

As for me,
I have nothing anyone would want.
When TSHTF I will be dead within a week.

Great post, worthy of a star and a flag!

Your words reign true on many levels, and it has always been my view as well, not just for my survival, but of those who might outlast me (wife and children). Telling everyone the details of your emergency action plan (or that you even have one) You wouldn’t just be condemning your goods, your condemning your family.

Ive always told people,” if you don’t plan on having them in the bunker with you when the balloon goes up, then they don’t need to know!”

Its safe to say that certain things will be hard to hide from close family, Ive always taken the approach when talking with them about it, that there are a few extra cans in the cupboard but nothing to brag about. Pretty much keeps them out of loop and down playing the extent of our personal preparations. On that note though, expect family and close friends to show up no matter what they know, just because you are family! …and prepare for that possibility, worse case scenario you end up with a little extra if they don’t stop by, which I really kind of hope they would.. the whole strength in numbers thing.

reply to post by havok



God advice. It never ceases to amaze me how people will tell all they have, Every so often there is a thread about "what do you have" and a bunch of people jump right on it and list their preps.

Here's a little add on advice. if you have been prepping for a long time people know and eventually word gets out. So if you know folks already know then make sure word gets out you are well prepared to defend your preps without prejudice... It helps if they think you are a little crazy too...

If you are a "known prepper," it might be worthwhile to come up with a plan that involves you leaving the immediate location where people expect to find you, or storing some of your equipment somewhere that is not considered part of your property.

If you had a home you rented out, you could secure a part of it and store some stuff there (I had a landlord in college who did that---who knows what he kept in 'his' closet, the biggest one in the house.)

If your plans called for bugging out, you could have a bug out vehicle at a storage facility. There's a "you store it" near my house, the gates don't require electricity, and you can access the site 24/7. You could keep a vehicle there and be gone before anyone knew. Of course, if you had that state of readiness, you could just leave anyway....

Hi,

Great thread thanks for posting!

I've been thinking the same thing for a while now. It's like some people like to brag about what they have... but when it comes to survivalism I strongly believe your preps and weaps should be kept on the down low. I don't understand why you would want to advertise this information to anyone besides family and trusted friends.

There are those who willingly put themselves in the limelight on YouTube and on internet forums to bring us good information on survivalism, and i personally thank those guys for all they do.

I am not a prepper myself (and i wouldn't say if i was one either ), but in terms of 'conspiracy' talk and 'ATS' talk, i've become very reluctant to talk openly to random people like i used to. I now instead talk about this to close friends and family, as people where i live are completely entranced in this fake reality and are completely mind block. As soon as you talk to them about anything else that what the TV offers, its over... complete mind blockage, denial and ridicule.

I've learned my lesson.

So yea, good advice!


~Cheers

reply to post by tovenar


Right there is some of the best advice to give.

People will flock to those places "known" to have food.
Stores, gas stations, markets, farms...etc.

Why make things any easier for the struggling?

Just because a person spends years preparing for the inevitable...
Doesn't mean they have to waste that time...handing it over to thugs who "knew where to look".

Pretty simple ideas.


Keep it to yourself people...no one will be the wiser!

reply to post by havok


I disguise my prepper activities under the guise of prepping during hurricane season (which is a real threat where I live). So, I've got some valid excuses for many of our preparations.

But, I don't advertise it. Only my real good friends know, that if the SHTF, they can come to me and my home is open to them (but only them (and their little ones, of course).

reply to post by havok


And of course, if and when the SHTF, everyone will be saying, "Robert stocked up for this, lets go see if he'll help us."

So much for stockpiling.

But, if that scenario did happen, would you be able to turn everyone away? Who would you NOT turn away?

reply to post by jiggerj


I'm pretty much prepping with my close friends and family members in mind. Granted, more mouths will mean the stores will last less time, but really, unless we devise some sustainability, we'd be screwed anyhow...just further along is all.

Things like seeds and gardening supplies have to be included as well as just food, etc. We could always convert the stables to rooms for people if needed, so that's another avenue. Sure, it isn't the best solution, but it's shelter (and lockable).

Originally posted by jiggerj
But, if that scenario did happen, would you be able to turn everyone away? Who would you NOT turn away?

It's not who I'd turn away...it's who actually shows up that I'd be worried about.
And yes, even where I am, at some point people/family will learn the word "NO".

See, I am trying to teach and tell all sorts of family, friends and neighbors to be self-sufficient.
They all need to be ready for anything and I can help them learn now for problems later.
By the time any SHTF, I'd hope that those people would actually be ready in a bad situation.
If any large amount of time passes after SHTF, I would hope to be rebuilding and not need supplies.
Then, the more people, the better off.

There will always be SOME people you tell. For me, this is only close friends and family. Not all of them share my concerns, and that's fine.

But, it's also HOW you tell them. I certainly don't tell them I'm stocking up for a Zombie Apocalypse, Nuclear War, or the collapse of the US.

No, I pretty much always phrase it under if a large Hurricane comes, and they are up to coming somewhere that won't lose power or AC, water, and has food, etc. I usually add in, "or any catastrophe that may threaten, where you think your home may not be the best place". I don't want them thinking I'm completely nuts, so I just make sure they know they're welcome.

If a real SHTF event were to occur, my PRIMARY goal would be to get to my place, but also to communicate (while I can) to these folks to come join us quick....before the traffic jams, etc.

I have talked about "tornado preparedness" at different times with a couple of trusted friends, and each of them "went there"--they started talking about financial and civil chaos, or world war.

And when I didn't amplify, they were both shifting back to "or tornado preparedness. yeah."

Insightful people will take the hint. It will be all they need.

reply to post by havok


When you get to a certain age you learn how not to spill your guts. it's cool to be silent.