Is this really the link to ADHD?

reply to post by XRaDiiX


sounds to me like you where misdiagnosed and had hyperactivity order only, in your cas then the medication would have a bad effect , feel for you!

Originally posted by XRaDiiX
reply to post by SenstivelyMe

 

I was a child that was diagnosed with ADHD i don't think you can understand this if you've never experienced it yourself and forced to take the damn drug that screws you up i had it diagnosed i was forced to take the drug at an age i was too naive to know anything about it.

I seriously recommend not giving your children these drugs they are for corporate profiteering solely it is not for your childs wellbeing it is a false pretense. For something that is normal in many humans and OK

edit on 3-4-2011 by XRaDiiX because: (no reason given)

No, I have not experienced myself, but my son's father has. I got to hear his side, when he was on medication as a child and when he wasn't. It helped him tremendously. This was discussed, as a family, and the choice made as a family. My ex husband still has ADHD to this day but refuses to take medicine. And not for the reasons you are stating, it's bad etc. He won't take it because his parents didn't teach him responsibility for his actions and he won't take care of himself. He is like a child himself. His girlfriend gives him his other medicines (heart attack) because he won't take them on his own! She has to call him to remind him to do things, even to feed the children!! He is so unfocused it's unbelievable. Why he won't help himself is beyond me.

My boyfriend (he's 50) also has ADHD and struggles when he forgets a dose. He does notice a difference in his concentration. He has 3 degrees and struggled the whole time, but he did it - with the help of medication.

I'm sorry you were forced and were not listened to. I am very happy to hear that you do quite well without the medication. You are one of the lucky ones.

reply to post by robertashby


No i think being hyper is one of the symptoms they link to ADHD i'm not certain cause im not a doctor but i do not believe in taking medicine whatsoever for anything unless its for saving your life in the short term or for pain medication when you need it when you are seriously injured in a hospital (morphine etc)

reply to post by SenstivelyMe


I do well without the medication but had to take it for many years in my child hood the drug has negative impacts on you and it has changed my brain and nerves for the worse. Never take these drugs they do not help they only make things worse.

The modern Pharmaceutical companies of today are a front they do not want to cure cancer they do not want to cure your disease or apparent 'condition' the purpose of their drugs are to keep you buying their drugs because they are solely for profit they are not FOR YOUR HEALTH

Originally posted by XRaDiiX
reply to post by SenstivelyMe

 

I do well without the medication but had to take it for many years in my child hood the drug has negative impacts on you and it has changed my brain and nerves for the worse. Never take these drugs they do not help they only make things worse.

Please explain to me your negative reactions. I am willing to listen and hear your side.


*I agree with what you are saying about the drug companies having their own agendas. I am aware of that and do take this into consideration in regards to all of my family and myself in regards to our health.

Those who don't believe ADHD exists, I hope, have a medical degree plus specializes in biological disorders and paediatricts and know exactly what they're talking about......

and I believe NONE of you know what you're talking about!

then you look at the major side affects of the drug that is supposed to help...i think that the cons out weigh the pro's on this one. here is a paper on what Ritalin can do to you.

ritalinsideeffects.net...

reply to post by SenstivelyMe


case and point
ritalinsideeffects.net...

reply to post by bluemirage5


Sure you think you know exactly what you're talking about but do you have first hand experience like me who was diagnosed with ADHD and had to take the drug firsthand. Can you expound?

reply to post by jaycen420


ALL medications can have side affects, Ritalin is no different

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by jaycen420

 

ALL medications can have side affects, Ritalin is no different

So are those the side affects that you are willing to risk happen to your child? im just saying that the cons of Ritalin out weigh the pros.

Originally posted by jaycen420

me honestly i dont believe in ADHD, when i was a kid their was no such thing as ADHD. We were just hyper active kids playing. Just another way to calm the people with more medication i think

Sorry but it is real. I deal with it every day and no I wasn't diagnosed just for the medication. I haven't taken medication for it since 1988.

I will agree with you there was a point in the 90's where every kid was diagnosed.

reply to post by SenstivelyMe


When you start taking the drug you become dependent on it for the rest of your life thats the purpose of these drugs they want you to buy Ritalin forever and now i have forever become screwed up because i don't take it anymore i don't believe in taking pharmaceuticals they are not natural. Herbs are natural i'll stick to natural healing instead of some industrial concoction of drugs and chemicals. Mother nature has all the natural medicine we need.

Now that i'm off the drug i can't focus on things very well and have become dependent on it. I do not recall this problem before i had been given the prescription and lead a normal life.

Was only riled up on sugar and thats what probably made me seem hyperactive. The dye could have a part to play in it to from what the OP suggests in his links. Do not take RITALIN you will become DEPENDENT

Originally posted by js331975

Originally posted by jaycen420

me honestly i dont believe in ADHD, when i was a kid their was no such thing as ADHD. We were just hyper active kids playing. Just another way to calm the people with more medication i think

Sorry but it is real. I deal with it every day and no I wasn't diagnosed just for the medication. I haven't taken medication for it since 1988.

I will agree with you there was a point in the 90's where every kid was diagnosed.

Funny that you mention that. i remember in the 90's when they did over-prescribe Ritalin to children. that was their excuse for everything. "what you have a hyper child? Boy do i have the solution for you. Its called Ritalin give it to your child and they will be all better"

reply to post by jaycen420


See he is a front man for the corporation and pharma companies that do not care what the drug does to you they just sell it to you and want you to be hooked on it or keep taking it for their profiteering swindle.

You want to know i have proof first hand that this is what they do my uncle actually CO-CEOS a pharma corp in Canada here and they push the agenda however they can to sell the drugs to people it doesn't matter whats in them. The profit margin is all they care about

reply to post by XRaDiiX


I have one child with Autism and 2 with ADHD, all three had MRI scans and were evaluated over a 3 appts lasting a whole day each appt with paediatric developmental specialists. Cost a fortune but was worth it.

One will be on meds for some time yet. Another went on meds for two years and no longer on them. The other refused to take meds. All three did very well in school, one of them quite successful (thats the one who did'nt take meds). Each child's diet varies; one can't have dairy products while another can't have wheat.

Any child diagnosed with ADHD and did not have an MRI and thorough testing, I'd be wary of the diagnosis. Too many GPs handing out medication to these kids without proper evaluations done.

reply to post by jaycen420


Yes, I know and made an informed decision. Oddly enough, he was only put on this as a last resort. The other drugs his pediatrician tried did not work. He was pushing the drug companies agenda and would only give long acting medicines. He wouldn't even consider a short acting drug, which pissed me off. My child could not tolerate the LA ones. We are now seeing an ADHD specialist. He is amazing and definitely looks out for my child, esp in regards to the side effects. He is not continually increasing the dose, checks his blood pressure, AND asks my son how he feels. WE listen. My child is gaining weight, his sleep is just fine. Any drug can become addictive. In these "studies", I'm hearing it's people who are taking it only to stay up to study etc that are having the problems. To take any medicine here or there is not good. Of course someone would need more the next go-round. To stop and start and only take on as as needed basis is irresponsible. As with any drug, when it's time to come off, you don't stop cold turkey. You wean yourself off. To stop completely is asking for trouble!

This is the same thing my son's father took as a child. There were no adverse reactions - until he stopped taking it! And the adverse reactions I'm talking about are not drug related. It makes everyone else's life a living h*ll as well as his. Even now he still has trouble with his bosses. He is still impulsive and gets in trouble! He's been demoted. I have a feeling, if he could control himself, he would be doing much better.

Originally posted by roughycannon
You dont believe in ADHT? think it just means your hyperactive? just shows you know nothing about it doesn't it, having ADHT doesn't mean your hyperactive yes that could be a symptom but not all people who have ADHT are hyperactive, symptoms could be anything from hyper focus, being adverse in many different subject/talents losing track of time, being forgetful, depression, in some cases a person could believe they have ability's beyond their current knowledge, they may day dream of of being on TV because they have invented time travel etc.

There is so much more to ADHT than simply being hyperactive, there are brain scan's and numerous tests done for decades which show chemical unbalance in the brain simply declaring you dont believe in something because you got a smack as a child and it didn't exist when you were a child is a bit silly...

There was a day when when people were burned as witches for symptoms that are today understood to be a mental illness, just because you weren't aware of it back in the day doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The above post bears repeating. I cannot believe that some people with deny all of the scientific evidence about ADHD and insist that it either doesn't exist or is caused solely by food additives. Plus, they will curse the drugs that are used to alleviate the symptoms. Such ignorance is incredible, simply incredible. I could respond with a few hundred pages of personal family history, but the ignorant have their minds made up, the problem doesn't exist as amply documented and the drugs for it as amply documented are all bad and simply big money-makers for the pharm companies.

The ATS motto of Deny Ignorance doesn't work. I suggest a better one: You Can't Fix Stupid.

reply to post by jaycen420


Ritalin varies from child to child; it does'nt help all ADD & ADHD kids.

When a child is not properly diagnosed correctly, of course there is a greater chance it's going to have adverce affects.

ADHD does exist but I believe a course of food intolerance tests is a MUST for all children before medication comes in to the loop. It has been proven that change of diet is not always affective however an MRI is a must as part of any evalution.

Those on this thread who has not been diagnosed nor have children properly diagnosed, does NOT know what they are talking about when they make silly claims ADHD does not exist.

reply to post by XRaDiiX


i agree with you except the suger causing hyper-activity

www.medicinenet.com...