Freemasons - I have a few questions.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Stop lying about the pie!

Fine.

It may not have been wonderful but it was still pretty damn tasty.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Why yes, just earlier I cured a man of leprosy, cast out Satan and baked a wonderful key-lime pie.

You washed your hands between the leper and the pie, right? (Or did casting out Satan sterilize them enough from the heat?)

Originally posted by JoshNorton
You washed your hands between the leper and the pie, right? (Or did casting out Satan sterilize them enough from the heat?)

At that point I decided to manifest as Vishnu so I just used a few of the clean ones.

It is so nice to have extra hands. Ever give yourself a stranger?

I thought you didn't get the power of tasty key lime until the 33rd?

Originally posted by AntoniusBlock
Does not Morals and Dogma state:
"The doctrines of the Bible are often not clothed in the language of strict truth, but in that which
was fittest to convey to a rude and ignorant people the practical essentials of the doctrine." (Morals and Dogma, p.224),

Masonry is not a religion. He who makes of it a religious belief, falsifies and denaturalizes it. The Brahmin, the Jew, the Mahometan, the Catholic, the Protestant, each professing his particular religion, sanctioned by the laws, by time and by climate, must needs retain it, and cannot have two religions; for the social and sacred laws adapted to the usages, manners and prejudices of particular countries, are the work of men.

But Masonry teaches, and has preserved in their purity, the cardinal tenets of the old primitive faith, which underlie and are the foundation of all religions. All that ever existed have had a basis of truth; and all have overlaid that truth with errors. The primitive truths taught by the Redeemer were sooner corrupted, and intermingled and alloyed with fictions than when taught to the first of our race. Masonry is the universal morality which is suitable to the inhabitants of every clime, to the man of every creed. It has taught no doctrines, except those truths that tend directly to the well-being of man; and those who have attempted to direct it towards useless vengeance, political ends, the Kabbala, Hermeticism, Alchemy, Templarism and Jesuitism have merely perverted it to purposes foreign to its pure spirit and real nature.

Magnum Opus, Ch. XXIX, p10

Originally posted by AntoniusBlock
A further question for the Masons, does Albert Pike not speak credibly on behalf of Freemasonry?

Every one is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound. It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgment.

Morals & Dogma, Preface

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I would just like to say that it's great to see Grand Commander Pike on this forum. Maybe later we can get together, read the Zend Avesta, worship Lucifer, and shoot some Yankees!

Originally posted by SecretSky
1. Why did you become a Freemason?
2. Apart from doing good for the community, is there a specific goal of Freemasonry?

The true Mason, my Brother, is a practical Philosopher, who, under religious emblems, in all ages adopted by wisdom, builds upon plans traced by nature and reason the moral edifice of knowledge. He ought to find, in the symmetrical relation of all the parts of this rational edifice, the principle and rule of all his duties, the source of all his pleasures. He improves his moral nature, becomes a better man, and finds in the reunion of virtuous men, assembled with pure views, the means of multiplying his acts of beneficence. Masonry and Philosophy, without being one and the same thing, have the same object, and propose to themselves the same end, the worship of the Gr∴ Architect of the Universe, acquaintance and familiarity with the wonders of nature, and the happiness of humanity, attained by the constant practice of all the virtues.

Magnum Opus, Ch. XX, p. 7

Originally posted by AntoniusBlock
Does not Morals and Dogma state:
"Masonry is a search after Light." (Morals and Dogma, p.741)

“God,” says Pythagoras, “is neither the object of sense, nor subject to passion, but invisible, only intelligible, and supremely intelligent. In his body he is like the light, and in his soul he resembles truth. He is the universal spirit that pervades and diffuseth itself over all nature. All beings receive their life from him. There is but one only God, who is not, as some are apt to imagine, seated above the world, beyond the orb of the universe; but being himself all in all, he sees all the beings that fill his immensity; the only Principle, the Light of Heaven, the Father of all. He produces everything; He orders and disposes everything; He is the reason, the life, and the motion of all being.”

“I am the light of the world; he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” So said the Founder of the Christian Religion, as his words are reported by John the Apostle.
…
According to the Kabbala, as according to the doctrines of Zoroaster, everything that exists has emanated from a source of infinite light…

Magnum Opus, Ch. XVIII, p. 18

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Hi Albert, I see you are new to the forums. Please keep this quote in mind when posting a reply.
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Originally posted by Sauron
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In preparing this work, the Grand Commander has been about equally Author and Compiler; since he has extracted quite half its contents from the works of the best writers and most philosophic or eloquent thinkers. Perhaps it would have been better and more acceptable if he had extracted more and written less.

Still, perhaps half of it is his own; and, in incorporating here the thoughts and words of others, he has continually changed and added to the language, often intermingling, in the same sentences, his own words with theirs. It not being intended for the world at large, he has felt at liberty to make, from all accessible sources, a Compendium of the Morals and Dogma of the Rite, to re-mould sentences, change and add to words and phrases, combine them with his own, and use them as if they were his own, to be dealt with at his pleasure and so availed of as to make the whole most valuable for the purposes intended. He claims, therefore, little of the merit of authorship, and has not cared to distinguish his own from that which he has taken from other sources, being quite willing that every portion of the book, in turn, may be regarded as borrowed from some old and better writer.

Morals & Dogma, pp iii-iv

Originally posted by KSigMason
I thought you didn't get the power of tasty key lime until the 33rd?

But lo! out of the brown foul earth, and colorless invisible air, and limpid rain-water, the chemistry of the seeds has extracted colors--four different shades of green, that paint the leaves which put forth in the spring upon our plants, our shrubs, and our trees. Later still come the flowers--the vivid colors of the rose, the beautiful brilliance of the carnation, the modest blush of the apple; and the splendid white of the orange. Whence come the colors of the leaves and flowers? By what process of chemistry are they extracted from the carbon, the phosphorus, and the lime? Is it any greater miracle to make something out of nothing?

Morals & Dogma, Ch. 26, p. 527

Originally posted by Masonic Light
reply to post by AlbertPike

 

I would just like to say that it's great to see Grand Commander Pike on this forum. Maybe later we can get together, read the Zend Avesta, worship Lucifer, and shoot some Yankees!

Sir, I prefer to be called 'Damned' Yankee. With vigor!

reply to post by jrstock


So a question to freemasons, is there any website i can go to, that has a list of all Scottish Rite freemasons?

reply to post by santjime

Go to the Supreme Council website and contact the archivist.

Originally posted by santjime
So a question to freemasons, is there any website i can go to, that has a list of all Scottish Rite freemasons?

No, there's not a public registry. Last year my city published a directory of its members (a few thousand) but it was opt-in, and I don't know if it was readily available to anyone outside of the fraternity.

That being said, when it comes to celebrities and politicians, we're proud of the members who are famous (so we wouldn't deny that someone was a Mason or in the Scottish Rite if that person were actually a member...) There's a long list of people we're proud to call brother. And an even longer list of people who are assumed by some to be Masons but really aren't.

reply to post by AlbertPike

Mr. Pike what do you meant by intentionally misled and princes of masonry, in the following statement.

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations . It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine that he understands them. Their true implication is reserved for Adepts, the Princes of Masonry. " - Albert Pike, Morals and Dogmas.

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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by illuminazislayer

 

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reply to post by illuminazislayer

Really? This where the thread has gone?

Originally posted by illuminazislayer
reply to post by AlbertPike

 

Mr. Pike what do you meant by intentionally misled and princes of masonry, in the following statement.

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations . It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine that he understands them. Their true implication is reserved for Adepts, the Princes of Masonry. " - Albert Pike, Morals and Dogmas.

The Templars, or Poor Fellow-Soldiery of the Holy House of the Temple intended to be re-built, took as their models, in the Bible, the Warrior-Masons of Zorobabel, who worked, holding the sword in one hand and the trowel in the other. Therefore it was that the Sword and the Trowel were the insignia of the Templars, who subsequently, as will be seen, concealed themselves under the name of Brethren Masons.

Morals & Dogma, p 816

Some of these titles we retain; but they have with us meanings entirely consistent with that Spirit of Equality which is the foundation and peremptory law of its being of all Masonry. The Knight, with us, is he who devotes his hand, his heart, his brain, to the Science of Masonry, and professes himself the Sworn Soldier of Truth: the Prince is he who aims to be Chief, [Princeps], first, leader, among his equals, in virtue and good deeds: the Sovereign is he who, one of an order whose members are all Sovereigns, is Supreme only because the law and constitutions are so, which he administers, and by which he, like every other brother, is governed. The titles, Puissant, Potent, Wise, and Venerable, indicate that power of Virtue, Intelligence, and Wisdom, which those ought to strive to attain who are placed in high office by the suffrages of their brethren: and all our other titles and designations have an esoteric meaning, consistent with modesty and equality, and which those who receive them should fully understand. As Master of a Lodge it is your duty to instruct your Brethren that they are all so many constant lessons, teaching the lofty qualifications which are required of those who claim them, and not merely idle gewgaws worn in ridiculous imitation of the times when the Nobles and Priests were masters and the people slaves: and that, in all true Masonry, the Knight, the Pontiff, the Prince, and the Sovereign are but the first among their equals: and the cordon, the clothing, and the jewel but symbols and emblems of the virtues required of all good Masons.

Morals & Dogma, p 327