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What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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I've got my own mini-conspiracy about Obama, the birthers, and his birth certificate.

I think he is a US citizen but he's letting republicans go visibly crazy over his birth certificate and birth place. Obama will produce the proper documents around re-election time to discredit a huge portion of republicans as fear mongering, conspiracy loving, racist nut jobs. It's a honey trap. So easy, so sweet for angry Americans to latch on to the thought he's not even an American.

His administration, the ones who aced using the Internet to forward his candidacy, helped stir the pot online and got republicans overly worked up over a piece of paper, in turn that spilled over to TV and then popular culture.

Now, the democrats have the republican birthers right where they want them - vocal in their craziness and to be swiftly discredited once he releases his official birth certificate around re-election time. His excuse for the delay will be something about trying to enjoy small privacies while occupying the most visible position in the world. And the stinger - he'll blame republicans for taking away his privacy.

For clarity: I don't personally believe these things about republicans... we're all Americans as far as I'm concerned. Semper Fi.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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Yes. Precisely what Jason88 has said. No, I don't believe in 'either or' either. You must have been in the military. People don't realize you get a vaccination against 'The Dog and Pony Show' along with your other vaccinations in Basic.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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I'll have to admit, that's an interesting strategy. It wouldn't be the first time that I was surprised by Obama and his ability to think and project into the future. I sincerely hope you're right, but only time will tell.

I wonder if the birthers will be eligible for publicly funded psychological counseling to help them deal with their depression upon learning the news that he is indeed American? Or maybe anger management counseling?



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Myendica
If we learned anything in early 2000, its that we can no longer vote for someone who prone to bankruptcy. cough cough Bush cough bankrupted everything he touched before being president, and now we're going broke..

If we vote Trump, he's just going to file for bankruptcy like he always has in real life..

Trump is a dump and not worth the bump


I agree Bush did rack it up, but Obama hasn't helped things get better, all he did was spend more.
I'm afraid it's too late, the U.S. is in a tail spin and just about to hit the ground.
The U.S. military will become a guns for higher operation, the rest of what's left of the U.S. will either be run from foreign soil or will go into protectionism.
I know we don't want to hear that, but what happens to a business(which the U.S. became a very long time ago) that is in hugh debt, and the creditors are about ready to call in their loans. Otherwise the creditors themselves will be going under. So sell of everything, try to recover their losses, and if there's anything left to make a buck on, they'll use it. This is why big CEO's are paying themselves hugh bonuses, whoever can hoard the most wealth to stay afloat on their ritzy raft, and or hideout in their bunker mansions. The other wealthy ones that can't afford the bunker mansions buy bunker timeshare unites or bunker condos and then there's bunker apartments.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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That's why this is just a spoof and or show boating tactic for more popularity to bring attention to some ulterior motives. But what motives is the big question, or should I say the million dollar question?

I honestly hope that Donald Trump is sincere in all of this, it would help greatly for someone in a high place to actually be for real for a change. Time will tell.


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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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I think he is going to draw the fife and drum crowd into the largest political defeat in recent memory. He'll let them amplify the Birth Certificate accusation to the point of a platform and then BAM! How do you like dem aces ladies. In the words of Napoleon: "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."


If you happen to be right about this, he and his planners will have been one of the most brilliant of all time. That is a spooky thought, then there will be people going around saying things like, and who can make war against him? And everyone will worship the beast.



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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I think the plan is Hilary Clinton will come out of this whole chaos in the middle east smelling like a rose and she's going to run for president and win, IMO. That could be their game plan.



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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What I heard on the grapevine, is probably just a rumor: That Pres. Obama does not have a birth certifcate, because the Hawaiian hospital, did not routinely give out birth certifcate's to the child's parents; who are an interracial couple.
edit on 31-3-2011 by Erno86 because: typo



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by Erno86
What I heard on the grapevine, is probably just a rumor: That Pres. Obama does not have a birth certifcate, because the Hawaiian hospital, did not routinely give out birth certifcate's to the child's parents; who are an interracial couple.
edit on 31-3-2011 by Erno86 because: typo



No not at all true, one thing about Hawaii it has a diversity of nationalities and they generally get along real good. In fact, that's one of the last places on Earth where you can still have comedians go up on stage and make fun of all the different races without being called a racist and hauled into court brought on charges of racism.



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by Erno86
What I heard on the grapevine, is probably just a rumor: That Pres. Obama does not have a birth certifcate, because the Hawaiian hospital, did not routinely give out birth certifcate's to the child's parents; who are an interracial couple


I am so glad that people truly understand the core concept of ATS and it's mantra to "Deny Ignorance." It is vital to ATS's future success that members continue to perpetuate myths by reporting unsubstantiated rumors.

Please keep up the good work.
Way to go.

/sarcasm



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Obama has a birth certificate. Or, at least, SOMEBODY has his birth certificate.
OR, maybe it burned in a fire. Who knows?
But, I will put it this way.
If Obama is AMERICAN, it really means nothing to BE American. He cares nothing for America.
He is a talking head. He reads a script. Nothing in that script describes an American that I know. And, if I am not American, there is NO America.
Pretty simple concept. Even KK should understand that...



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by Stewie
And, if I am not American, there is NO America.
Pretty simple concept. Even KK should understand that...


What I understand from your opinion above is that you are espousing ethnocentrism and have an exaggerated sense of self importance. Yes, I get that.

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posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Okay, KK.

YOU define what it means to be American. Lay it out for me.
Do so, and I bet I can prove Obama is NOT American.
If he fits YOUR definition of what it means to be American, I would bet most Americans would not fit YOUR definition.
Let's draw the line in the sand, KK.
Obama is nothing. He has no substance. He is actually is a figment of your imagination...or at least, in SUBSTANCE, he doesn't really exist. He is an image on a screen...the talking head.

You cannot prove otherwise KK, because it is a simple fact.



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Stewie
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Okay, KK.

YOU define what it means to be American. Lay it out for me.
Do so, and I bet I can prove Obama is NOT American.
If he fits YOUR definition of what it means to be American, I would bet most Americans would not fit YOUR definition.
Let's draw the line in the sand, KK.
Obama is nothing. He has no substance. He is actually is a figment of your imagination...or at least, in SUBSTANCE, he doesn't really exist. He is an image on a screen...the talking head.

You cannot prove otherwise KK, because it is a simple fact.


From the revolutionary state of Massachusetts, home of the first patriots, I'll happily take a swing at this nonsense coming from Texas, with too many self important "x"s.

America the land of dreams, the American Dream. Obama, a black child with a terrible ethnic name, is raised poor and in broken home. With the odds of success stacked against him from birth, he demonstrates sheer determinism in his education to pull himself from poverty and into halls of higher education. He takes his good fortune, and rather than take a cushy job at a law firm to pay off his massive debts, he instead takes a low paying job to give back to his community. He meets his wife, also black and from a poor background, and she becomes the bread winner as a successful executive. Two kids later, a successful senate run, and coming on the heels of the disaster known as Bush (that's a big part, btw), he wins the presidency on the simple messages of "hope" and "change."

And that my friend is as American as apple pie. It is The American Dream. Semper Fi.
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posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Do you really believe that story? Obama went to private schools in Indonesia and Hawaii then onto to private college and the Ivy League thereafter. Sorry to burst your bubble but the man has no concept of being poor as reflected by his spending habits. I don't buy the nativity story.

The man has never worked for anything in his life.



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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You apparently have me confused with someone who accepts your barked out orders
It was YOU who so boldly defined YOURSELF as the poster child for being American, not me. Therefore I am under no obligation to share MY DEFINITION of being American because you demand it. But I can assure you it would encompass the rich tapestry and diverse cultural ethnicities which represent the melting pot that is America today. Certainly not some monopolistic and narrow reference to "the America I know" or "the America I grew up in" type inferences which generally represents code-speak of a nostalgic by-gone era alluding to a previously racially segregated America.

I live in the modern era and am a realist in the real world, and oh by the way; President Obama really does exist despite your desire to wish him away with extreme right-wing pixie dust.

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posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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Do you really believe that story? Obama went to private schools in Indonesia and Hawaii then onto to private college and the Ivy League thereafter. Sorry to burst your bubble but the man has no concept of being poor as reflected by his spending habits. I don't buy the nativity story.

The man has never worked for anything in his life.


I tell that story to myself every night before bed. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy about our President-as-Jesus. Seriously, no one is going to change anyone's mind here, but it's nice to debate.



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
The man has never worked for anything in his life.


You probably forgot about this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/12e01c6041e0.jpg[/atsimg]

And because you forced me into my archives, an oldie but goodie.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f628c87d1114.jpg[/atsimg]

edit on 31-3-2011 by kinda kurious because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by jibeho
The man has never worked for anything in his life.


You probably forgot about this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/12e01c6041e0.jpg[/atsimg]

And because you forced me into my archives, an oldie but goodie.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f628c87d1114.jpg[/atsimg]

edit on 31-3-2011 by kinda kurious because: (no reason given)


It's easy too fool the sheep. Those votes are nothing more that blind people wandering hopelessly for an illusion. That's what Mack Daddy Long Legged Obama is, just an illusion that the sheep thought was there shepherd.



posted on Mar, 31 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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Well if he is being set up then it is not just happening now! It is something he was aware of a long time ago, and has been lying about it from before he was in office! Personally I don't care if he is being set up as long as he and the rest involved pay for the treason done to the US.



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