Pics I took today show the sun plus another glowing ball. Flare?

All these images are all very strange I think we must start thinking there may be something there.

The heart is a lump of flesh,but it is also a vessel for truth.

reply to post by cassp83

I'm hardly trying to post a 'hoax'.

I know that, dear.
It was an honestly posed question. Innocent, even.

However, there have been MANY similar cases posted, over and over here. For many years. It is a trend, a fad....it starts ONCE the first person, somewhere "somewhen" does it, and everyone follows suit.


The ONLTY way to properly ascertain that there is NOT any other glowing large object in the apparent proximity to the Sun is to use a proper SUN FILTER! You can get these to use a camera through, you can even get the ones that are safe to look directly through, and they have ones that can be added to telescopes too.

In a pinch, a welder's mask glass filter will suffice. BUT, before doing any 'staring' at the Sun, even with protection, research FIRST online.

BTW....pointing your camera at the Sun, even for those brief moments? Can cause burnouts in your CCD. Don;t do it with expensive digital cameras that you care about.....

reply to post by kromaion


You can't be 100% on something that's fifty-fifty. So you're 50% sure it's a lens effect and 50% sure it's a flare. That seems like some doubt in your mind.

I'm 100% sure I don't know what that is, but I'm keeping an open mind.

Sorry already mentioned, but I'm still 100% I'm not sure what that is.

reply to post by nerbot


what's he hoaxing? he asks right in his title if it might not be just a flare. isn't this whole site about exploring all possibilities before declaring that we know the truth.
As a very amateur photographer, I can say that it does look like a lens effect. The outside edge of the disc wouldn't be totally smooth if it were a body in the sky, it would be throwing off the corona rays, like the sun is. That being said, you can hardly accuse the OP of hoaxing or dismiss this as absolutely 100% debunked. It does look like a lot like some of these other strange two suns, object near sun photos, doesn't it?

reply to post by weedwhacker


instead of trying to paint this as a hoax or a trend, like people see others getting comments and want to follow suit, why don't we call a spade a spade? It's ignorance, plain and simple. Someone sees something funny in a photo, doesn't remember seeing or not seeing it when they took it, and comes here to see if there's any more to it than the usual mundane explanations. I commend the poster for seeking to dispel their own ignorance. Many more people would make the mistake of assuming that they know better before fully exploring the question.

For anyone taking pics of the sun may I recommend two things.

1. A LENS HOOD


2. POLARIZER FILTER


This has been a public service announcement--------

I've inverted the second image just to see if anything jumps out.

The anomaly does not seem to blend in or match the shade composition of the sun.

Also, it appears somewhat in the foreground in relation to the sun, as if it was in fact closer to the point of view of the camera than the sun. It appears as if 'on top' of the lens flare as well instead of behind it.

I'm just pointing this out and in no way coming to any conclusion whatsoever.

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Zoomed in on anomaly:

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reply to post by gluon

I've inverted the second image just to see if anything jumps out

....which is an absolutely worthless technique for examination, sorry. Just leads to still more of the same misunderstandings.

All it does is make the image look "odd".

But hey! Anyone remember good old-fashioned FILM negatives? Back in the day, before you kids were born.....and we didn't have "digital cameras" and computers and such.

You bought film. Inserted into your camera. Shot the whole roll. All (12) or (24) or (36) exposures....talking 35mm film, here...depending on what you bought, and what its label said as the amount in the roll. (you could squeeze out a few more than advertised, depending on how much you wasted on the lead as it loaded on the take-up spool).

SO...you then took the exposed film to some place to have it developed, and prints made. You specified (depending on your taste, and what you were willing to pay) how big, and how many copies of each you wanted. What type of finish on the paper (Matte or Glossy). Etc.

When you picked it up, ONLY THEN did you know how well your photos turned out.....what skills you had as a photographer. No "instant gratification" (well, there WAS the Polaroid camera.....poor substitute).

Also, in the envelope with your prints, they would include your NEGATIVES. Nicely cut into segments for you, four or five frames to a piece. THOSE you could look at, and marvel at how "weird" they looked...(because they were "negatives"....).

Oh, and at one time, phones didn't have pushbuttons, either. AND they had cords......

Would it be possible that when people use a camera to take pics of the sun they have with them a welding mask to double check what they are seeing in the photos is still there.Do this at your own discretion ,I have looked at the sun through one and only saw the sun ,but as others have said the mystery object that people are looking for may be in another light spectrum.

reply to post by weedwhacker


I don't follow the whole double-sun thing that closely but... wouldn't rotating the camera and seeing if the spot rotates with it prove if it is a real object or not? If it's a flare, it would stay in the same spot relative to the camera but if it is not, it would stay in the same spot without regard to camera position.

Are there any pictures/films where they did this?

reply to post by Cuervo


Yes.....

....wouldn't rotating the camera and seeing if the spot rotates with it prove if it is a real object or not?

.....Are there any pictures/films where they did this?

Yes. And posted on ATS, months ago, several times. Someone did exactly that, and put it up on YouTube. (Of course, FINDING it again is going ot mean a heavy search of either ATS threads, or YT itself.....UGH!!)

It proved conclusively the concept of lens flares and lens optics effects.....



Well, I dipped my toe into the cesspool of "nibiru" on YouTube, and this isn't the video I was thinkiing of, BUT is VERY, very good (and very recent....13th March 2010):

reply to post by weedwhacker


They should make a lens flare forum.

To the OP, as another poster suggested, buy a filter before you break your camera...

Cool pics


Unlike the rest i'm just going to say "I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS!"


Could be lens flare could be something entirely different,


I'm 100% sure it one of 10 things

reply to post by weedwhacker


Thanks, that's all I needed to know. It doesn't satisfy my curiosity on the subject in general but it at least puts to bed the films that have been popping up.

Originally posted by Neopan100
For anyone taking pics of the sun may I recommend two things.

1. A LENS HOOD


2. POLARIZER FILTER


This has been a public service announcement--------

How is that a "public service announcement" when...

If you're pointing your lens directly at the sun, what good is a lens hood? Lens hoods are designed to keep out stray light, like that from the sun, but only if used properly! Having said that, a lens hood is always a good idea, even if it does not help with ghosting/flare.

Also, the correct advice, when shooting into the sun, is to remove all filters (polarizing filters included), if you want to minimize lens artifacts like ghosts and flare. Of course a proper solar filter is the exception to this rule.

Helpful Hints

We completed our primary task—getting rid of lens flare while shooting into the sun. But how do we get rid of lens flare while actully shooting the sun itself? Unfortunately it’s very hard to get rid of lens flare while the light source is in the frame. There are some tips that we can use to help minimize this type of flare:

1. Keep your hood on. Always better to have it on, even if it’s not sunny out
2. Lessen the amount of glass / elements the light has to pass through. Remove any filters you have on your lens. Try using a prime lens rather than a zoom. Zoom lenses have more elements that the light has to pass through, therefore creating more lens flare

How to Easily Avoid Lens Flare

Filter flare
The Filter Flare Factor

reply to post by BunnyBeHoppy

s1199.photobucket.com...
i hope i did that right.

it would seem to be an ordinary reflection but still a bit puzzling. we need some experts here on ATS.
you may visit photobucket and see my photo i took of the sky recently..random, aim toward the sun photo.
i think the black oval thing on the right is a bumble bee. just an example of an illusion of an unknown.
we have lots and lots of bumble bees zooming around here now. looks like you reduced your light to take
the picture..i did the same thing i believe..not sure. now if we had one of those professional lens for
viewing the sun we might know for sure if your picture shows a reflection or refraction of light..i took a bright
moon photo and it showed the same kind of thing..a bright spot to the side and right of the full moon.

Originally posted by tom goose

Originally posted by kromaion
100% sure it's lens effects or sun flare. No doubt at all.

how can you be 100% sure about two things?

only the sith deal in absolutes young jedi

Because this is reality,not a sci-fi movie....


It's lens flare.

reply to post by Neopan100

thanks..hope i did not ruin my camera..cannot afford another one.

reply to post by weedwhacker


I gave the star to vonhelton pointing out how fast the dis info posters showed..and im pretty sure that i wasnt the only one who gave the post a star.another thing,whats the posters name have to do with anything? just because you say he chose a name synonomous with a known you tuber. there are plenty of names on here that could be questioned..and im sorrry i dont like being slapped i would much rather have a spankin

reply to post by gdaub23


This threads creation was disinfo.