ELEnin Comet Is A NASA Psyop Cover For Incoming Dwarf Star

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We're still talking about her? She got lucky. If her method of prediction was so fool proof where's the major quake she predicted for California? You know, the one where she told everyone there to head to safer ground. Furthermore, as I stated in the post you quoted, there were no alignments. If you look at the orbit projection in 3D you will see that Elenin was not on the same level as Earth and the Sun. Despite this however, if you look at it in the same view that everyone's claiming shows an alignment and draw a line between Earth, the Sun, and Elenin it is far from straight.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by truthseekr1111

 

We're still talking about her? She got lucky. If her method of prediction was so fool proof where's the major quake she predicted for California? You know, the one where she told everyone there to head to safer ground. Furthermore, as I stated in the post you quoted, there were no alignments. If you look at the orbit projection in 3D you will see that Elenin was not on the same level as Earth and the Sun. Despite this however, if you look at it in the same view that everyone's claiming shows an alignment and draw a line between Earth, the Sun, and Elenin it is far from straight.

I think she Made a mistake. I think she meant to say California quake in September.

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She laid out a specific date on which it would happen. She didn't make a mistake. She believed an earthquake would devastate California on that day. She was wrong. Yet, for some reason people are still praising her. It's like the whole Blossom Goodchild thing all over again.

Originally posted by thorazineshuffle

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by truthseekr1111

 

We're still talking about her? She got lucky. If her method of prediction was so fool proof where's the major quake she predicted for California? You know, the one where she told everyone there to head to safer ground. Furthermore, as I stated in the post you quoted, there were no alignments. If you look at the orbit projection in 3D you will see that Elenin was not on the same level as Earth and the Sun. Despite this however, if you look at it in the same view that everyone's claiming shows an alignment and draw a line between Earth, the Sun, and Elenin it is far from straight.

I think she Made a mistake. I think she meant to say California quake in September.

No, she specifically said she thought there'd be a quake on the 31st of March.

Hey, look what happened.

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yea jsut like nancy lieber made the mistake in 2003 and changed the date to 2012 how convenient, i love how people just go around changing dates when they realize how wrong they actually are for # sake

Originally posted by NyxOne
Originally posted by truthseekr1111
Originally posted by Xcalibur254

So, once again you fail to respond to the evidence that has been presented against you. It has been demonstrated that Astrolpatriot and Lucus are both frauds that would rather fearmonger than present accurate information. You have been presented the facts about brown dwarfs and why what you are claiming is impossible. You have been shown that when one looks at the JPL data in 3D there was no alignment whatsoever. I can keep going on, but it is pointless. You will simply ignore the facts and call anyone who disagrees with you a shill.

Its an irrefutable FACT 9NANIA's prediction was based upon a specific and unique alignment of ELENIN which she clearly and literally warned would connect and be related to a MAJOR EARTHQUAKE in Region of Japan which over-rides your entire argument and premise about that alignment having nothing to do with at the very least, the japan quake.
Its also a fact that 2 other major quakes occurred on or around a similar alignment.
Now of course the other two are more debatable using your logic i might admit, however the 3/11 alignment/connection is compelling evidence to challenge your "oh its just a coincidence" and there's nothing
of significance worthy of consideration or that could be useful.

Yeah, she's totally accurate, just picking a random day and wildly stabbing in the dark.

So 9nania specifically mentioning MARCH 11TH 2011 for a major catastrophic earthquake ocurring around a unique Elenin Sun Earth Alignment was random, wildly stabbing in the dark?

Say, what happened to her quake that would devastate California, I wonder?

Where exactly did her MARCH 11TH QUAKE prediction/alignment of Elenin mention anything that the quake was FOR California? Her prediction was never specific to California and even discussed how the alignments connected to March 11th and then again beginning around September and California was a possible location for these quakes or earth shifts. The area she mentioned and said her prediction involved was the pacific rim region.

Her prediction was DEAD ON if not for PICKING the date of MARCH 11TH and specific region.

Did a catastrophic super quake hit the Ring of Fire on March 11th?

YES IT DID.

Did a Nuke Disaster occur due to a major Quake in the location one of the psychics warned of?

YES it did

And, uh, no, it doesn't 'override' anything. Care to give examples of other comet alignments causing quakes?

OTHER EXAMPLES have NOTHNG to do with this issue nor does any OTHER comet alignments. If you've done any serious research on this particular subject and educated yourself on the FACTS as it relates to these psychics and Elenin, you'd know that.

Originally posted by NyxOne
To begin with, Elenin never was aligned with us, because it's 2.4 million miles above us.

Does the JPL Orbit path graphic show Planet Alignments and alignments with Elenin at certain intervals?

YES IT DOES.

but the distance of Elenin is irrelevant to the issue anyway.

however even if you were to show a 3D image or point you're making which you can't support anyway, it in no way invalidates the OP nor these predictions and is therefore moot.

oh well

Hey you guys sometime in the next 30 years a large quake is going to hit and cause damage. You heard it here first

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by truthseekr1111

 

We're still talking about her? She got lucky.

Yeah, it was just LUCK naming and warning how the pacific ring of fire on MARCH 11TH a catastrophic seismic event would occur. LOL a better and more specific LUCKY guess naming a specific date and area than any geologist on the planet.

Yeah, just a lucky guess Sollog warned how 3/11 was connected to MAJOR QUAKES and just a Lucky guess that he also warned how a NUCLEAR REACTOR would have a major accident connected to such a Quake.

Yeah, just like the FBI saying Xineophoel (sollog fan) got lucky when he predicted on 9/11/2001 there would be a catastrophic event upon the United States or Sollog warning about major Terrorism occurring in early September connected to the BIG BUILDING was lucky, and another fan elnine, warning 3 years to the exact day, how a major emergency would strike DC on 9/11 and titled the subject 911.

Yeah you're right, nothing to see here folks, move along. LOL

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
If her method of prediction was so fool proof where's the major quake she predicted for California?

This issue has nothing to with her METHOD being fool proof as you put it... She gave an exact DATE for a major quake but has so far not yet given any other exact date for the other events other than to mention a few possible dates in Sept, Oct and Nov for another possible seismic event or catastrophic shift,,, but then the SOURCE of her data is based off of data she says she's interpreting from another source.... you'd know that if you had done an in-depth investigation on all the facts.

But Please show me where exactly she singled out California for her 3/11 prediction and said nothing about September.

Its so funny that The only way Pseudo-skeptics can convince yourselves and others, make it look like you've proven or debunked anything, is to use classic disinfo tactics which includes debating out of context.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
You know, the one where she told everyone there to head to safer ground.

Yeah, too bad no one in japan did eh?

too bad most aren't aware that her prediction is also a warning valid for September/Oct/Nov... and although hasn't given any specific date yet, should be considered more seriously by those in CALIFORNIA especially when all the evidence in context is examined that further shows valid reason to.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
Furthermore, as I stated in the post you quoted, there were no alignments. If you look at the orbit projection in 3D you will see that Elenin was not on the same level as Earth and the Sun.

First, until you can show such a 3D model, your claim is irrelevant to anything.

Second, even if such a model isn't "level" in the way you claim, the model used in this case, does in fact show an alignment. Just because one planet isn't "level" doesn't mean its not in an array or can't be in an alignment.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
Despite this however, if you look at it in the same view that everyone's claiming shows an alignment and draw a line between Earth, the Sun, and Elenin it is far from straight.

She pointed out a specific timeframe that a specific near-alignment would occur and connect to a major seismic event.

Her prediction was correct and beyond what you want to call "random" or lucky... she happened to possess certain astrological data that warned there was a pattern and that pattern would translate into a major quake during a specific "alignment" (a term that best describes what it was)...

SHE WAS RIGHT

now of course you and other skeptics can try to deny the evidence and facts in this case that show why these particular pyschics predictions/prophecies were correct, but it won't disprove or debunk anything including the OP.

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umm..I'd like to see where you got all this info from? as far as I know none of these people were correct about that (AS FAR AS I KNOW)

Originally posted by Nobama
Hey you guys sometime in the next 30 years a large quake is going to hit and cause damage. You heard it here first

Yeah right, nothing significant about 2 psychics naming and warning about 3/11 having a major catastrophic quake to hit. Happens all the time!

Are people really as ignorant and blind as you are?

you're actually trying to compare someone giving a specific date for a MAJOR CATASTROPHIC QUAKE to a 30 year timeframe??



in the age of information, this has to be the most ignorant generation in the history of the world

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Attacking people like that makes you seem ignorant , sorry but if your just going to attack everyone that disagrees with what you have to say, well your not going to get far on this site. oh and actually people predicting earthquakes is quite common, if you think their the first to do this your sadly mistaken, does that mean its the end of the world, HAARP is killing us all, We all need to run to the hills, these people are physics, yadda yadda? well of course not.

oh and the abuse of the emoticons just adds to the sillyness of your post.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by thorazineshuffle

 

She laid out a specific date on which it would happen.

YEP

She didn't make a mistake.

NOPE

She believed an earthquake would devastate California on that day.

NO, she warned that a CATASTROPHIC QUAKE was imminent on that DATE and California was among one of the possible areas either for that date or for one of the other TWO LARGER SEISMIC events in 2011.

She was wrong.

NO, YOUR INTERPRETATION AND FACTS WERE WRONG.

Yet, for some reason people are still praising her. It's like the whole Blossom Goodchild thing all over again.

So Lets see you give an EXACT DATE for a MAJOR SUPER QUAKE and come ANYWHERE REMOTELY close to either of their predictions.

Its a fact you can't do it and its a fact you can't show anyone else on the planet that was more accurate in predicting the japan quake and nuke disaster.

I suppose you're simply ignorant of the number probability that makes these predictions correct and beyond what you and others try to call a coincidence and no big deal.

Originally posted by Nobama
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Attacking people like that makes you seem ignorant , sorry but if your just going to attack everyone that disagrees with what you have to say, well your not going to get far on this site.

oh and actually people predicting earthquakes is quite common, if you think their the first to do this your sadly mistaken, does that mean its the end of the world, HAARP is killing us all, We all need to run to the hills, these people are physics, yadda yadda? well of course not.

oh and the abuse of the emoticons just adds to the sillyness of your post.

edit on 14-4-2011 by Nobama because: (no reason given)

My RESPONSE (key word here) is no more an ATTACK than the derogatory condescending TONE of the ATTACKS and ridicule upon the validity of these predictions/prophecies and my argument.

The fact that you ATTACK my response without acknowledging that FACT, shows your bias and a serious lack of intellectual integrity.

What? is this site based on FEELINGS and EMOTION when measuring an arguments validity or analyzing/debating evidence? Please tell me thats not the case. (EMOTICON USED FOR EMPHASIS)

Oh and actually NO, ACCURATELY PREDICTING EARTHQUAKES is NOT common. If its so COMMON and EASY, please show anyone who predicted the Japan Quake or Nuke Disaster at all let alone that was more accurate.

Oh, and my use of emoticons to express added visual EMOTION which are actually OFFERED HERE TO USE FOR THAT PURPOSE, doesn't invalidate, disprove or debunk the FACTS and argument being presented.

So I suggest you familiarize yourself on the issue you're criticizing since you obviously are clueless about it.

FEELINGS and your EGO being hurt, won't change the facts that validate these predictions. Try using evidence and intelligent discourse to support your arguments instead of EMOTION next time (Emoticon used again for EMPHASIS :@@

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The fact that you ATTACK my response without acknowledging that FACT, shows your bias and a serious lack of intellectual integrity.

lol I never attacked you, and Emoticons aren't meant to be spammed, as for the rest of your post it makes no sense...oh and I have done research on this, research that proves shes a phony...so why are you so content on backing her up?

Try using evidence to support your arguments instead of EMOTION

Maybe you should reread this and apply this to your future posts?

Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by truthseekr1111

The fact that you ATTACK my response without acknowledging that FACT, shows your bias and a serious lack of intellectual integrity.

Originally posted by Nobama
lol I never attacked you,

so how and where exactly did I attack anyone? My RESPONSE to their CRITICISM wasn't any more an attack or less of one if that how you want to describe responding in the SAME MANNER.

using your logic, its okay for those criticizing to use a derogatory and ridiculing condescending tone, but any such response in defense of that TONE isn't allowed? yeah okay whatever

Originally posted by Nobama
and Emoticons aren't meant to be spammed,

My apologies... didn't know you were so sensitive. (i used 1 this time.. happy?)

Originally posted by Nobama
as for the rest of your post it makes no sense...

claiming it makes no sense without showing what doesn't make sense, is what makes no sense.

Originally posted by Nobama
oh and I have done research on this,

sure you have

and you have so much evidence to back up what you claim

Originally posted by Nobama
research that proves shes a phony...

except the facts and evidence you've failed to even address or show how they weren't correct, proves otherwise.

Originally posted by Nobama
so why are you so content on backing her up?

Maybe Because you and those attacking these predictions, haven't presented any evidence to support your argument that she's a phony??? Yep

Originally posted by Nobama
Maybe you should reread this and apply this to your future posts?

Maybe you should take your own advice in your future posts?

Thanx

Originally posted by PlanetXGuy

My investigation into the ELEnin Comet began in early February, 2011

I ran across the evidence that Google had blocked out a section of Google Sky that just happens to be the same coordinates as this ELEnin Comet

NASA came out with the orbit data for their ELEnin Comet that the Russian supposedly discovered using a remote-controlled telescope in New Mexico at 4.316 AU (400+ million miles) from Earth, but amateur astronomers using telescopes cannot find his comet at less than 2 AU

Careful analysis of the JPL orbit data for this inbound object reveals a startling series of seeming coincidences beginning with the Earth axis shift on February 27, 2010 with the 8.8 Chile Quake that took place on a Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignment.

The whole solar system is heating up

the Sun is becoming active and earth change events are becoming more frequent with greater intensity with increased global warming, volcanoes, earthquakes, rogue tides, sinking islands, magnetic pole migration, mass animal deaths and much more

Then we arrive at the fact that Greenland experienced sunrise two days early which is a great sign that something is off with Earth orbit.

While I expect those blinded by Normalcy Bias and shills to fill this topic with denial, denial, denial, that is easily answered with one-sentence statements, someone please post a reporter interview of Leonid ELEnin with recent pictures of his comet discovery. That should be a simple task since his comet is now less than 2 AU from Earth.

I’m trying to catch up. Has anyone posted an interview of Leonid ELEnin with recent pictures of his comet discovery? Also, why have the last couple of pages been about a psychic and someone on youtube? I thought the thread was about whether or not the PTB were hiding the truth about something that maybe coming. If the OP’s original questions hold up then wouldn’t that corroborate what the OP is proposing? Sorry if I’m trying to stay on topic but that is why I came here. The original topic! Boy do you guys know how to derail a thread.

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lol I never attacked you, and Emoticons aren't meant to be spammed, My apologies... didn't know people were so sensitive here. (i used 1 this time.. happy?)

No ones sensitive, it's just common sense not to over do it...

claiming it makes no sense without showing what doesn't make sense, is what makes no sense

Wut? oh and I said the rest, so I kinda did say what didn't make sense

sure you have and you have so much evidence to back up what you claim

Why wouldn't I research this? Also where's your evidence?

except the facts and evidence you've failed to even address or show how they weren't correct, proves otherwise. so why are you so content on backing her up? Because you and those attacking these predictions, haven't presented any evidence to support your argument that she's a phony.

look it up, you know ATS has a search function right? There's so many people on here that have tore this chick to shreds..

Maybe you should take your own advice in your future posts?

That makes no sense..


Also looking over your recent posts all you do is pick out certain posts that disagree with what you have to say and attack them, explains the lack of stars you have received. Anyways this is getting no where and is completely off topic, so reply if you want I wont be here to read it.

Originally posted by liveandletlive

Originally posted by PlanetXGuy

My investigation into the ELEnin Comet began in early February, 2011

I ran across the evidence that Google had blocked out a section of Google Sky that just happens to be the same coordinates as this ELEnin Comet

NASA came out with the orbit data for their ELEnin Comet that the Russian supposedly discovered using a remote-controlled telescope in New Mexico at 4.316 AU (400+ million miles) from Earth, but amateur astronomers using telescopes cannot find his comet at less than 2 AU

Careful analysis of the JPL orbit data for this inbound object reveals a startling series of seeming coincidences beginning with the Earth axis shift on February 27, 2010 with the 8.8 Chile Quake that took place on a Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignment.

The whole solar system is heating up

the Sun is becoming active and earth change events are becoming more frequent with greater intensity with increased global warming, volcanoes, earthquakes, rogue tides, sinking islands, magnetic pole migration, mass animal deaths and much more

Then we arrive at the fact that Greenland experienced sunrise two days early which is a great sign that something is off with Earth orbit.

While I expect those blinded by Normalcy Bias and shills to fill this topic with denial, denial, denial, that is easily answered with one-sentence statements, someone please post a reporter interview of Leonid ELEnin with recent pictures of his comet discovery. That should be a simple task since his comet is now less than 2 AU from Earth.

I’m trying to catch up. Has anyone posted an interview of Leonid ELEnin with recent pictures of his comet discovery? Also, why have the last couple of pages been about a psychic and someone on youtube? I thought the thread was about whether or not the PTB were hiding the truth about something that maybe coming. If the OP’s original questions hold up then wouldn’t that corroborate what the OP is proposing? Sorry if I’m trying to stay on topic but that is why I came here. The original topic! Boy do you guys know how to derail a thread.

First off, There's still unanswered questions regarding Leo's identity and issue surrounding Elenins discovery etc.

Second, the issue and thread includes the question about ALIGNMENT and whether seismic events connected/relate to a certain alignment of Elenin with other Planets in our system... so since the alignment issue is also connected to a prediction of someone that has discussed these same issues of alignment, it seems to me its RELATED and a valid topic to discuss... Now i'd be happy to withdraw any further discussion of these predictions if the OP planetXguy has a problem with it and requests I cease posting about it if it is too far off topic.

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"First off, There's still unanswered questions regarding Leo's identity and issue surrounding Elenins discovery etc."

I would like to know more about this. Why would there be any mystery around the person that discovered the comet. Is he real?

Originally posted by Nobama
sure you have and you have so much evidence to back up what you claim

Why wouldn't I research this?

You TELL ME

Originally posted by Nobama
Also where's your evidence?

About WHAT exactly? What doesn't make sense and what evidence are you expecting in this case or haven't I posted? But then you've done so much research, why would i need to?

a Quake Prediction was made based on a specific alignment of Elenin. The alignment occurred, a unique Quake struck as the prediction claimed it would and the prediction was validated. What more evidence validating this prediction based off of the alignment do you need?

Originally posted by Nobama
except the facts and evidence you've failed to even address or show how they weren't correct, proves otherwise. so why are you so content on backing her up? Because you and those attacking these predictions, haven't presented any evidence to support your argument that she's a phony.

look it up, you know ATS has a search function right? There's so many people on here that have tore this chick to shreds..

yeah, and all their arguments have failed to prove or disprove anything like yours have.

so whats your point?

Originally posted by Nobama
Maybe you should take your own advice in your future posts?

That makes no sense..

Also looking over your recent posts all you do is pick out certain posts that disagree with what you have to say and attack them,

you mean like you do? and all those "other arguments" you're talking about? LOL

talk about making no sense.

Originally posted by Nobama
explains the lack of stars you have received.

you actually think i care about or am here to acquire stars?

you actually think the number of STARS and who likes someones postings changes the FACTS and EVIDENCE supporting an argument?

is that what you're here for? pretty looking stars? REALLY?

another person who uses emotion to measure truth on a board designed for intelligent DISCOURSE.

Originally posted by Nobama
Anyways this is getting no where and is completely off topic, so reply if you want I wont be here to read it.

thank goodness.. cuz you wasted enough bandwidth making silly unsupported claims